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		<title>By: Is Your Internet Disaster Plan in Place?: Tech News &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/08/16/skype-outage/#comment-557741</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Is Your Internet Disaster Plan in Place?: Tech News &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 22:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] is obviously not the first time something like this has happened. We wrote about a big Skype outage in 2007, wondering if it raised concerns about the reliability of P2P communications networks. But a few [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is obviously not the first time something like this has happened. We wrote about a big Skype outage in 2007, wondering if it raised concerns about the reliability of P2P communications networks. But a few [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Suresh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/08/16/skype-outage/#comment-177911</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Suresh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I tend to agree with Ian that Skype may not actually be p2p concept. That makes it vulnerable to hold ups on the network. Will Skype come out with an explanation to the contrary?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with Ian that Skype may not actually be p2p concept. That makes it vulnerable to hold ups on the network. Will Skype come out with an explanation to the contrary?</p>
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		<title>By: el blog de dsa : Sobre la caida de m&#38;amp;#225;s de 30 horas de skype</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/08/16/skype-outage/#comment-177910</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[el blog de dsa : Sobre la caida de m&#38;amp;#225;s de 30 horas de skype]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] hablar de que esto nos viene bien a los que vendemos servicios que no se apoyan en las redes p2p... http://gigaom.com/2007/08/16/skype-outage/Algo m&#225;s sobre el tema, al parecer, lo que m&#225;s ha indignado a los gur&#250;s -que de [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] hablar de que esto nos viene bien a los que vendemos servicios que no se apoyan en las redes p2p&#8230; <a href="http://gigaom.com/2007/08/16/skype-outage/Algo" rel="nofollow">http://gigaom.com/2007/08/16/skype-outage/Algo</a> m&aacute;s sobre el tema, al parecer, lo que m&aacute;s ha indignado a los gur&uacute;s -que de [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CLR II: vaciando la lista de referencias : La Cofa - Blog de Vigilancia Tecnológica</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/08/16/skype-outage/#comment-177909</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CLR II: vaciando la lista de referencias : La Cofa - Blog de Vigilancia Tecnológica]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Telefonía IP: Does Skype Outage Expose P2P’s Limitations? [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Telefonía IP: Does Skype Outage Expose P2P’s Limitations? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Whiteley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/08/16/skype-outage/#comment-177908</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Whiteley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Very interesting discussion.  My view point is from managing a server centric network for 15 years with millions of messages each day.  Server based networks  reboot easily and grow badly while P2P networks grow well and reboot poorly.  You are correct, Skypes has never tested network rebooting and cannot with 200 million nodes but they can do a lot better job than they apparently have done simulating it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A lot is said about scaling large networks but little about rebooting them.  The complexity of rebooting a network seems to grow exponentially with the number of nodes.  What will happen when power goes off one or two of Google&#039;s large data centers?  Though they will have problems, I doubt if they are anything like the dimension of Skypes&#039; problems.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also remember, the mean time to repair goes to infinity as the mean time between failures goes to infinity.  If it doesn&#039;t fail you can&#039;t fix it when it does!  The fact that Skypes has never encountered this problem before makes repair really, really hard.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting discussion.  My view point is from managing a server centric network for 15 years with millions of messages each day.  Server based networks  reboot easily and grow badly while P2P networks grow well and reboot poorly.  You are correct, Skypes has never tested network rebooting and cannot with 200 million nodes but they can do a lot better job than they apparently have done simulating it.</p>
<p>A lot is said about scaling large networks but little about rebooting them.  The complexity of rebooting a network seems to grow exponentially with the number of nodes.  What will happen when power goes off one or two of Google&#8217;s large data centers?  Though they will have problems, I doubt if they are anything like the dimension of Skypes&#8217; problems.</p>
<p>Also remember, the mean time to repair goes to infinity as the mean time between failures goes to infinity.  If it doesn&#8217;t fail you can&#8217;t fix it when it does!  The fact that Skypes has never encountered this problem before makes repair really, really hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Andrew Bell</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/08/16/skype-outage/#comment-177907</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Andrew Bell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Skype&#039;s outage doesn&#039;t expose that there are problems with Peer-to-Peer applications.  Instead, it exposes the fact that Skype is actually not really a Peer-to-Peer application.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skype&#8217;s outage doesn&#8217;t expose that there are problems with Peer-to-Peer applications.  Instead, it exposes the fact that Skype is actually not really a Peer-to-Peer application.</p>
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		<title>By: Butterfly Effect? &#171; Reverberations</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/08/16/skype-outage/#comment-177906</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Butterfly Effect? &#171; Reverberations]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 13:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...]  Skype Blog on Skype&#8217;s outage over last week (blaming re-boots after regular Tuesday Windows updates): &#8220;The abnormally high [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Skype Blog on Skype&#8217;s outage over last week (blaming re-boots after regular Tuesday Windows updates): &#8220;The abnormally high [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Medhavi</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/08/16/skype-outage/#comment-177905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Medhavi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I posted some analysis on my blog. I think the problem is not related to any authentication service or software issue. It seems to me that Skype never thought how to handle problems in a distributed system scenario where one node depends on another to provide service. My guess is that this provides a taste of things to not only Skype but all of us. Lets see what Skype announces (if there are any announcements...)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://techpiper.blogspot.com/2007/08/face-facts.html&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted some analysis on my blog. I think the problem is not related to any authentication service or software issue. It seems to me that Skype never thought how to handle problems in a distributed system scenario where one node depends on another to provide service. My guess is that this provides a taste of things to not only Skype but all of us. Lets see what Skype announces (if there are any announcements&#8230;)</p>
<p><a href="http://techpiper.blogspot.com/2007/08/face-facts.html" rel="nofollow">http://techpiper.blogspot.com/2007/08/face-facts.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: GigaOM Skype Crisis: Where were the eBay Management? &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/08/16/skype-outage/#comment-177904</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GigaOM Skype Crisis: Where were the eBay Management? &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] in this moment of crisis, eBay&#8217;s senior management was AWOL. Ebay and Skype management are happy to talk to the press [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: &#187; In light of Skype disruption, remember not all P2P is the same &#124; IP Telephony, VoIP, Broadband &#124; ZDNet.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/08/16/skype-outage/#comment-177903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#187; In light of Skype disruption, remember not all P2P is the same &#124; IP Telephony, VoIP, Broadband &#124; ZDNet.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Aron responded to a post Om wrote today about the Skype outage. Om&#8217;s post is entitled, Does Skype’s outage indicate a fatal flaw in using Peer-to-Peer?&#8221; [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Aron responded to a post Om wrote today about the Skype outage. Om&#8217;s post is entitled, Does Skype’s outage indicate a fatal flaw in using Peer-to-Peer?&#8221; [...]</p>
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