Comments on: Broadband ISP's Fear of the Web Video http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:08:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Michael http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177539 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:52:41 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177539 What we need is ‘win-win’ platforms between media owners and telcos.

A company in New York, MediaMerx, has developed a platform to deliver high quality video over broadband to markets that suffer from international bandwidth bottlenecks.

ISPs can create customized video players, source content from around the web, add local content and license premium content.

ISPs and broadband providers can sign up for a trial here: http://www.mediamerx.com/index.php?section=betaprogram

]]> By: Iptivia and Next-Gen Network Monitoring - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177538 Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:01:01 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177538 [...] Higginbotham, Wednesday, January 30, 2008 at 6:00 AM PT Comments (0) Regardless of what you believe about the current state of IP networks’ ability to handle online video, delivering video and [...]

]]> By: Don Thompson http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177537 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:58:33 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177537 My recent information is that the UK has got 100% provision of 8Mb ADSL from just about all BT’s telephone exchanges. That’s 8Mb from the DLSAM to the consumer’s DSL device. If the ISP’s exploiting BT/OpenReach’s LLU provision are discounted from the discussion then it’s important to remember that everyone else uses BT’s IP connectivity cloud to backhaul from the exchange DSLAMs to the ISP’s networks. I expect that those nets, for the most part, will join straight onto the peering points at LINX etc. So what’s the bottleneck? To me it looks like the backhaul provided from the DSLAMs into the ISP networks that’s part of the wholesale service charged to the ISPs by BT. Most mere mortals suffer contention for that backhaul at 50:1 while paying £15 to £30 a month. To take that to 20:1 the charge rises to about £55. Contention’s fine for browsing the web, audio streams, the occasional 30 seconds of youtube but iPlayer’s demands are a bit more consistent and if a few of your neighbours are using BBC iPlayer, or 4OD, that contention will start to be felt more keenly. The good thing is that the consumer now has a well defined expectation of his monthly broadband subscription and believes he can have the whole Internet for that, nothing less. It’ll be interesting to see who takes the squeeze. Of course, there’s always the option of sticking with Sky+.

]]> By: gianlucalini.it http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177536 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:30:55 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177536 Lo temevo…ISP vs BBC

Partendo dal pressupposto che quanto riportato da ArsTechnica e GigaOM sia verosimile, provo a dire la mia sulla questione.
La fairness sul trattamento dei pacchetti che molti auspicano venga applicata dagli ISP si scontra con la realtà dove esistono pro

]]> By: TechCrunch en français » Internet est-il vraiment prêt pour l'IPTV ? http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177535 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:05:58 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177535 [...] réseau. Comme le souligne GigaOm, cela coûterait aux fournisseurs d’accès anglais près de $ 2 milliards pour améliorer leur capacité afin de satisfaire la demande. Un tel effort doit-être fait aux [...]

]]> By: IP http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177534 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 12:47:03 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177534 The issue here is that it’s P2P technology, which pushes the cost of delivery from the originating network to the delivery network. All reports I’ve heard of the iPlayer is that it, like most P2P networks (see Joost) doesn’t work very well due to congestion in the backchannel.

]]> By: TTR http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177533 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:48:52 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177533 @Stoicho
I understand your point but “network neutrality” is just not possible. It will stay a great ideal idea. That’s it. And believe me, I’m very sorry to say so.
It is not compatible with the telecom business which need huge investment on a day basis.

Nobody talks about site banning, but how to handle traffic priority following the QoS negotiations…

]]> By: Claeskrantz.com » Internet inte redo för IPTV http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177532 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:36:28 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177532 [...] increase revenue without increasing network capacity. As GigaOm cites, it could cost UK ISPs up to $2 billion to upgrade their capacity to match increasing [...]

]]> By: Just a random blog ! http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177531 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:41:56 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177531 [...] increase revenue without increasing network capacity. As GigaOm cites, it could cost UK ISPs up to $2 billion to upgrade their capacity to match increasing [...]

]]> By: dwhitney http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177530 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:34:20 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177530 The real issue at hand here is purely financial. Service providers being publicly traded companies can’t afford to just throw more money at the problem only to get smalle returns. Anyone can understand that. (not that it is anyone’s fault…)

The challenge they are in is that they have not priced their current offerings (and margins their investors have come to expect over the years…) in a manner that reflects the SIGNIFICANTLY increased costs of supporting the kind of usage patterns that the video explosion has created.

Say what we want but at the end of the day, rational economics always win in the long run and that means consumers will end up paying more as they use more via one means or another. The relationship is not linear as service provider costs continue to go down over time but nevertheless, the consumer will pay more.

]]> By: The Internet (Apparently) Isn’t Ready For IPTV http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177529 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:19:20 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177529 [...] increase revenue without increasing network capacity. As GigaOm cites, it could cost UK ISPs up to $2 billion to upgrade their capacity to match increasing [...]

]]> By: The Internet (Apparently) Isn’t Ready For IPTV http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177528 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:13:03 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177528 [...] increase revenue without increasing network capacity. As GigaOm cites, it could cost UK ISPs up to $2 billion to upgrade their capacity to match increasing [...]

]]> By: Stoicho http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177527 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:04:45 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177527 @TTR
“revenue sharing” equals death of “network neutrality” equals death of many things including one small: internet.

They should just stop overselling their traffic, buy more traffic, raise prices or whatever LEGAL business decision they find appropriate. Banning sites is legal maybe just in China.

]]> By: BBC: Don’t Be iPlayer-Hater | Digital Daily | John Paczkowski | AllThingsD http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177526 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:41:32 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177526 [...] when there isn’t a lot to do with it. The ISPs’ “arguments sound hollow,” writes Om Malik. “On one hand they urge subscribers to sign up for faster download plans, and pay premium [...]

]]> By: Matt_ http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177525 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:10:51 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177525 The ISPs have known that the internet video explosion has been coming for a few years but what they don’t want to hurt the IPTV services they also want to provide down their pipes .

Its the same lame excuse they have had regarding p2p for years and they cried about VOIP also Boo Hoo.

]]> By: Robert Seidman http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177524 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:20:13 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/13/broadband-isps-fear-of-the-web-video/#comment-177524 The only place true broadband exists seems to be between customer and ISP. In my case that means I have true, honest to goodness fast, fast broadband between my home and Comcast, but for everything else…not so much.

I do not reasonably expect Comcast to allow me to cancel ~$100/mo. worth of cable TV content so that I can “steal it” for free via the $45 I pay for broadband internet and I certainly don’t expect them to increase bandwidth between Comcast and the Internet to improve that experience.

I do expect that sooner or later (ok, later) they will try to charge me $10 a month to give me similar services that really are broadband (between Comcast and my house) and won’t require any infrastructure upgrades.

Some ISPs absolutely did count on the Web video explosion (which has not even remotely occurred yet), but with the reasonable expectation that they could profit from it.

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