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		<title>By: James Body</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/27/fwd-relaunches-to-break-the-telco-trance/#comment-176312</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Body]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@Erik&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ed Guy is now Technical Architect at Truphone - the Mobile Internet Network Operator who provide a VoIP service on mass market phones.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For those of you who know what Ed did for FWD it should come as no surprise that he has been and continues to be instrumental in bringing cool and fun features to Truphone!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Erik</p>
<p>Ed Guy is now Technical Architect at Truphone &#8211; the Mobile Internet Network Operator who provide a VoIP service on mass market phones.</p>
<p>For those of you who know what Ed did for FWD it should come as no surprise that he has been and continues to be instrumental in bringing cool and fun features to Truphone!</p>
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		<title>By: Ramiro Salas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ramiro Salas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been with FWD for several years now (and now a &quot;member&quot;) and I managed to connect my whole family in Chile, USA, Germany and Italy using FWD. I bought Grandstream ATAs for them, created their FWD numbers, configured the devices myself and shipped them with clear plug-and-play instructions. It worked like a charm and everybody is happy.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;How was that a success? well, from my family&#039;s perspective, it is a magic black box that just works. If you guys could somehow create a model where non-techies could just &quot;order here&quot; and you get &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt; preconfigured for their own personal environment, that would be a hook. Especially if you don&#039;t need a computer on for the service to work (as Skype does).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I suggest you make a deal with Grandstream and resell their adapters (including their new IP video phone) and have special web areas where you can market directly to families spread around the world, and other niche segments.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Old people makes a better market than young IMHO...&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been with FWD for several years now (and now a &#8220;member&#8221;) and I managed to connect my whole family in Chile, USA, Germany and Italy using FWD. I bought Grandstream ATAs for them, created their FWD numbers, configured the devices myself and shipped them with clear plug-and-play instructions. It worked like a charm and everybody is happy.</p>
<p>How was that a success? well, from my family&#8217;s perspective, it is a magic black box that just works. If you guys could somehow create a model where non-techies could just &#8220;order here&#8221; and you get <em>everything</em> preconfigured for their own personal environment, that would be a hook. Especially if you don&#8217;t need a computer on for the service to work (as Skype does).</p>
<p>I suggest you make a deal with Grandstream and resell their adapters (including their new IP video phone) and have special web areas where you can market directly to families spread around the world, and other niche segments.</p>
<p>Old people makes a better market than young IMHO&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Tynwald</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/27/fwd-relaunches-to-break-the-telco-trance/#comment-176310</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik Tynwald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I have been a   FWD user ever since it&#039;s inception (first time round).  For me the one individual who made FWD exciting and innovative was Ed Guy - Jeff Pulver&#039;s late CTO.   When Ed was moved from FWD to other work within the Pulver empire, the really fun phased of FWD&#039;s evoultion stopped dead.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I would dearly like to kow exactly what Ed is doing now - a standard Google search reveals that he is in some way connected with mobile internet startup  Truphone, who are doing all kinds of interesting stuff in the mobile VoIP arena (in the same way that FWD used to do really cool stuff!)&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a   FWD user ever since it&#8217;s inception (first time round).  For me the one individual who made FWD exciting and innovative was Ed Guy &#8211; Jeff Pulver&#8217;s late CTO.   When Ed was moved from FWD to other work within the Pulver empire, the really fun phased of FWD&#8217;s evoultion stopped dead.</p>
<p>I would dearly like to kow exactly what Ed is doing now &#8211; a standard Google search reveals that he is in some way connected with mobile internet startup  Truphone, who are doing all kinds of interesting stuff in the mobile VoIP arena (in the same way that FWD used to do really cool stuff!)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Berninger</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/27/fwd-relaunches-to-break-the-telco-trance/#comment-176309</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Berninger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Sampath,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I share the sentiment that a focus on victimization of little co&#039;s by big co&#039;s is unproductive.  The column represented more of a cautionary tale pointing toward a way forward.  Avoid any dependence of on the traditional telephone network.  The bigco anti-competitive activities explain the surprising lack of innovation in traditonal telecom.  Aside from a difference in connectors, a telephone manufactured in 1924 will work with the existing local telephone networks.  The same voice quality.  The same technology used in the local loop.  The usual forces of technology innovation appear to be absent in the monopoly local telephone business.  It seems reasonable for anyone getting into the business in 2007 to think through how that could be possible.  How did the Verizon increase prices every year between 1984 and 2007 without improving the value proposition offered end users?  The telephone call to your neighbor in 2007 differs not at all from the one in 1984 or even 1954.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sampath,</p>
<p>I share the sentiment that a focus on victimization of little co&#8217;s by big co&#8217;s is unproductive.  The column represented more of a cautionary tale pointing toward a way forward.  Avoid any dependence of on the traditional telephone network.  The bigco anti-competitive activities explain the surprising lack of innovation in traditonal telecom.  Aside from a difference in connectors, a telephone manufactured in 1924 will work with the existing local telephone networks.  The same voice quality.  The same technology used in the local loop.  The usual forces of technology innovation appear to be absent in the monopoly local telephone business.  It seems reasonable for anyone getting into the business in 2007 to think through how that could be possible.  How did the Verizon increase prices every year between 1984 and 2007 without improving the value proposition offered end users?  The telephone call to your neighbor in 2007 differs not at all from the one in 1984 or even 1954.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Graves</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/27/fwd-relaunches-to-break-the-telco-trance/#comment-176308</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Graves]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 01:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been with FWD since 2001. Working from a home office in Texas for a UK based company I managed to get our staff to try FWD a little before it was truly ready.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;SIP through NAT was not really solved well until quite recently. Skype drew attention to the need to resolve that problem. Gizmo Project has done a decent job of making it happen, but FWD has remained under the radar for most people.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With some press, and a little better reliability, FWD could be really good. I&#039;d look to FWD for services and features beyond simple POTS replacement before most others.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Michael&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been with FWD since 2001. Working from a home office in Texas for a UK based company I managed to get our staff to try FWD a little before it was truly ready.</p>
<p>SIP through NAT was not really solved well until quite recently. Skype drew attention to the need to resolve that problem. Gizmo Project has done a decent job of making it happen, but FWD has remained under the radar for most people.</p>
<p>With some press, and a little better reliability, FWD could be really good. I&#8217;d look to FWD for services and features beyond simple POTS replacement before most others.</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Sampath</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/27/fwd-relaunches-to-break-the-telco-trance/#comment-176307</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sampath]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Success and failure has nothing to do with the   big telcos...It has to do with the fact that these products are complex to use, no one to complain to and marketing to subscribers costs $$$....We just have to stop blaming the &quot;big companies&quot; everytime a smaller company fails...&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Success and failure has nothing to do with the   big telcos&#8230;It has to do with the fact that these products are complex to use, no one to complain to and marketing to subscribers costs $$$&#8230;.We just have to stop blaming the &#8220;big companies&#8221; everytime a smaller company fails&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Smith On VoIP</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/27/fwd-relaunches-to-break-the-telco-trance/#comment-176306</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smith On VoIP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;This is certainly an excellent move by Jeff and the rest of the FWD team. If anyone can grow a long term successful IP communications company that actually provides value to it&#039;s users it is him.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The idea that it is a membership, not a monthly fee sort of makes you feel like you are in an exclusive group. Great marketing.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is certainly an excellent move by Jeff and the rest of the FWD team. If anyone can grow a long term successful IP communications company that actually provides value to it&#8217;s users it is him.</p>
<p>The idea that it is a membership, not a monthly fee sort of makes you feel like you are in an exclusive group. Great marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: amit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;check out interesting thoughts on the subject by john mckinley on http://greatfallsventures.wordpress.com/2007/07/19/sunrocket-did-not-crash-due-to-a-management-failure-it-was-way-more-fundamental-than-that/&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check out interesting thoughts on the subject by john mckinley on <a href="http://greatfallsventures.wordpress.com/2007/07/19/sunrocket-did-not-crash-due-to-a-management-failure-it-was-way-more-fundamental-than-that/" rel="nofollow">http://greatfallsventures.wordpress.com/2007/07/19/sunrocket-did-not-crash-due-to-a-management-failure-it-was-way-more-fundamental-than-that/</a></p>
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		<title>By: that dismal science :: linkdump for 28 jul 07 :: July :: 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[that dismal science :: linkdump for 28 jul 07 :: July :: 2007]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] FWD relaunches to break the telco trance from GigaOM [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] FWD relaunches to break the telco trance from GigaOM [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Berninger</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/27/fwd-relaunches-to-break-the-telco-trance/#comment-176303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel Berninger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;FWD always sought to help the IP Comms industry overcome the obstacle of the day.  Over the years, this included the first PSTN interconnect, H.323 interoperability, promoting SIP with free provisioning, obtaining regulatory clarity via FCC Pulver Order, and recently taking a stand on patent prior art.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I believe the most pressing obstacle today is escaping breaking the dependence of the industry on the traditional telephone network (and by extension on traditional telephone companies.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The network effect works against the industry at this point.  Everyone wants ubiquity, but ubiquity seems to depend on interconnection with the telephone network.  End users only understand new offers to the extent they get presented in the context of replacing traditional telephone offers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The column made a single point:  There is more to communication and even voice communication than the telephone call.  The IP Communication industry needs to get in the business of delivering communication rather than just telephone calls via the Internet.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWD always sought to help the IP Comms industry overcome the obstacle of the day.  Over the years, this included the first PSTN interconnect, H.323 interoperability, promoting SIP with free provisioning, obtaining regulatory clarity via FCC Pulver Order, and recently taking a stand on patent prior art.</p>
<p>I believe the most pressing obstacle today is escaping breaking the dependence of the industry on the traditional telephone network (and by extension on traditional telephone companies.)</p>
<p>The network effect works against the industry at this point.  Everyone wants ubiquity, but ubiquity seems to depend on interconnection with the telephone network.  End users only understand new offers to the extent they get presented in the context of replacing traditional telephone offers.</p>
<p>The column made a single point:  There is more to communication and even voice communication than the telephone call.  The IP Communication industry needs to get in the business of delivering communication rather than just telephone calls via the Internet.</p>
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		<title>By: techuntangled</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/27/fwd-relaunches-to-break-the-telco-trance/#comment-176302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[techuntangled]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The reason that new players like vonage and Ooma have to spend so much money to acquire customers is that because they are not known, have little brand recognition and are peddling unknown technology. This is 1 of the 5 reasons a lot of VoIP providers will fail http://techuntangled.com/5-reasons-why-voip-providers-will-go-bust (not suggesting that Ooma will fail, but remember SunRocket).&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason that new players like vonage and Ooma have to spend so much money to acquire customers is that because they are not known, have little brand recognition and are peddling unknown technology. This is 1 of the 5 reasons a lot of VoIP providers will fail <a href="http://techuntangled.com/5-reasons-why-voip-providers-will-go-bust" rel="nofollow">http://techuntangled.com/5-reasons-why-voip-providers-will-go-bust</a> (not suggesting that Ooma will fail, but remember SunRocket).</p>
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		<title>By: techuntangled</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/27/fwd-relaunches-to-break-the-telco-trance/#comment-176301</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[techuntangled]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;One of the reasons FWD hasn&#039;t done well is that it hasn&#039;t been marketed to beyond the techie who&#039;s willing to tinker with a VoIP box to get it to work.  Reality is that marketing/buzz/hype is a very important tool in the success of a tech business&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the reasons FWD hasn&#8217;t done well is that it hasn&#8217;t been marketed to beyond the techie who&#8217;s willing to tinker with a VoIP box to get it to work.  Reality is that marketing/buzz/hype is a very important tool in the success of a tech business</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Mackey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 02:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I like what Skype is doing in the sector. I&#039;m looking to purchase one of their WiFi phones and use it instead of a home phone.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what Skype is doing in the sector. I&#8217;m looking to purchase one of their WiFi phones and use it instead of a home phone.</p>
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