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	<title>Comments on: Finally, Google and Schmidt go &#8216;All In&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Anthony Kuhn</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-388235</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Kuhn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 06:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This whole thing is heating up the shoe soles of the old school telecom players and they don't like the hot foot at all! I linked to your story via the blog at http://blog.innovators-network.org in hopes of increasing your audience and growing our community. The Innovators Network is a non-profit effort to spread technology to small businesses, venture capitalists, entrepreneurs and ensure intellectual property is well protected. Please visit us for more information.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole thing is heating up the shoe soles of the old school telecom players and they don&#8217;t like the hot foot at all! I linked to your story via the blog at  (<a href="http://blog.innovators-network.org" rel="nofollow">link</a>)  in hopes of increasing your audience and growing our community. The Innovators Network is a non-profit effort to spread technology to small businesses, venture capitalists, entrepreneurs and ensure intellectual property is well protected. Please visit us for more information.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-380447</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Kopelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If Google puts in the reserve and nobody else does, they win the auction. it's as simple as that. Therefore, $4.6B is Google's opening bid. What Google is saying is that if the rules are changed they will bid. If the rules got changed and they did not bid, I'm sure the FCC would have legal recourse and I'm also sure they would use it. Now, will the rules get changed enough for Google to bid? That's a whole different and much more important question.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Google puts in the reserve and nobody else does, they win the auction. it&#8217;s as simple as that. Therefore, $4.6B is Google&#8217;s opening bid. What Google is saying is that if the rules are changed they will bid. If the rules got changed and they did not bid, I&#8217;m sure the FCC would have legal recourse and I&#8217;m also sure they would use it. Now, will the rules get changed enough for Google to bid? That&#8217;s a whole different and much more important question.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Goebel's Tech News Comments</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-377868</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus Goebel's Tech News Comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Google is the real telco disruptor&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It seems that "GoogleTel" is arising out the last moves and acquisitions.  GoogleTel = Ubiquisys (Femtocells) + Bandwidth (Dark Fiber and 700MHz Spectrum) + Grand Central (One Number ID). The total disruption of mobile and fixed line telephony by off...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Google is the real telco disruptor</strong></p>
<p>It seems that &#8220;GoogleTel&#8221; is arising out the last moves and acquisitions.  GoogleTel = Ubiquisys (Femtocells) + Bandwidth (Dark Fiber and 700MHz Spectrum) + Grand Central (One Number ID). The total disruption of mobile and fixed line telephony by off&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Mackey</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-377091</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mackey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Chalking Schmidt up as a potential personal hero.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chalking Schmidt up as a potential personal hero.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Parandian</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-376815</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Parandian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 01:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I share Garth and Tom's view.  On a relate note, this is a beauty contest -- not an auction...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Chris
http://www.mobilediner.com/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share Garth and Tom&#8217;s view.  On a relate note, this is a beauty contest &#8212; not an auction&#8230;</p>
<p>Chris<br />
 (<a href="http://www.mobilediner.com/" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
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		<title>By: Garth</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-376376</link>
		<dc:creator>Garth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;4.6 billion is the reserve price (lowest acceptable price) on the auction.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Google is saying we will bid at least the minimum if you run the auction in a way that will give us access to the spectrum win or lose.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If they get the terms of the auction changed, their incentive to bid is lower.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If they intended on bidding competitively, there would be no need for the statement, they probably would keep things secret.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4.6 billion is the reserve price (lowest acceptable price) on the auction.</p>
<p>Google is saying we will bid at least the minimum if you run the auction in a way that will give us access to the spectrum win or lose.</p>
<p>If they get the terms of the auction changed, their incentive to bid is lower.</p>
<p>If they intended on bidding competitively, there would be no need for the statement, they probably would keep things secret.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-376336</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Kopelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is an &lt;em&gt;auction&lt;/em&gt;. The $4.6B was an opening bid, not some sort of final offer.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an <em>auction</em>. The $4.6B was an opening bid, not some sort of final offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Coseven</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-376318</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Coseven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Recent estimates start at $20B for the entire 60Mhz public portion.  The 22MHz "C" is expected to be more valuable (per MHz) than the other blocks, because it will be easier to assemble a national offering.  So Garth's point that Google's $4.6B is a low offer is still correct.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recent estimates start at $20B for the entire 60Mhz public portion.  The 22MHz &#8220;C&#8221; is expected to be more valuable (per MHz) than the other blocks, because it will be easier to assemble a national offering.  So Garth&#8217;s point that Google&#8217;s $4.6B is a low offer is still correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kapustka</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-376163</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Kapustka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Garth, the $4.6 B is just for a PART of the total spectrum auction. Other slices will make up the predicted bigger pie.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garth, the $4.6 B is just for a PART of the total spectrum auction. Other slices will make up the predicted bigger pie.</p>
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		<title>By: Garth</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-375706</link>
		<dc:creator>Garth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The google statement is nothing but talk, if they were serious they would offer to actually bid on the spectrum.  The auction is supposed to fetch between 10 and 30 billion, a 4.6 billion offer is a joke&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The google statement is nothing but talk, if they were serious they would offer to actually bid on the spectrum.  The auction is supposed to fetch between 10 and 30 billion, a 4.6 billion offer is a joke</p>
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		<title>By: John Thacker</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-375388</link>
		<dc:creator>John Thacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Comparing the "old and busted" to the "new hotness" is interesting because the other articles you link to talk about the FCC focusing too much on building the "new hotness" instead of increasing competition on the old (and busted?) networks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Without at all discounting the importance of opening up phone networks, a large portion of the "stagnant" situation you talk about is also a result of a previous pro-consumer and pro-Internet feature of US telephony-- unmetered local phone calls.  Unmetered phone calls meant that US adoption of the Internet in the modem age was much faster than other countries.  But it's also meant a much larger legacy install base of narrowband users, some of which have proved amazingly reluctant to go to even $20/month DSL deals when available in their area.  There are many people I've tried to convince to get broadband with fairly little success.  Many people just don't see the need for speed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The relative expensive of local phone calls in most other countries (sans Canada) drove the spread of DSL for Internet access.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Opening up the phone networks for competitive DSL will certainly prevent investment in the old copper network.  In my opinion, we DO want companies to build new networks, and one way of doing that is to make the old legacy networks less profitable while not interfering with investment in new networks.  At the same time, I'm disturbed at the people who seem to spend all their effort attacking new networks and wanting to regulate them.  The old incumbent networks should be regulated, but brand new investment less so.  (And when one company, like Verizon, owns both sorts of networks, regulate the one more than the other.)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing the &#8220;old and busted&#8221; to the &#8220;new hotness&#8221; is interesting because the other articles you link to talk about the FCC focusing too much on building the &#8220;new hotness&#8221; instead of increasing competition on the old (and busted?) networks.</p>
<p>Without at all discounting the importance of opening up phone networks, a large portion of the &#8220;stagnant&#8221; situation you talk about is also a result of a previous pro-consumer and pro-Internet feature of US telephony&#8211; unmetered local phone calls.  Unmetered phone calls meant that US adoption of the Internet in the modem age was much faster than other countries.  But it&#8217;s also meant a much larger legacy install base of narrowband users, some of which have proved amazingly reluctant to go to even $20/month DSL deals when available in their area.  There are many people I&#8217;ve tried to convince to get broadband with fairly little success.  Many people just don&#8217;t see the need for speed.</p>
<p>The relative expensive of local phone calls in most other countries (sans Canada) drove the spread of DSL for Internet access.</p>
<p>Opening up the phone networks for competitive DSL will certainly prevent investment in the old copper network.  In my opinion, we DO want companies to build new networks, and one way of doing that is to make the old legacy networks less profitable while not interfering with investment in new networks.  At the same time, I&#8217;m disturbed at the people who seem to spend all their effort attacking new networks and wanting to regulate them.  The old incumbent networks should be regulated, but brand new investment less so.  (And when one company, like Verizon, owns both sorts of networks, regulate the one more than the other.)</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-375371</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I'm the first guy to cheerlead someone other than  the incumbents getting this spectrum and doing something with it that vaguely resembles open competition in this country.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That said, I'm not so sure it's all that heroic on Google's part to say they'll pony up big dough for broadband, but only with the caveat that the FCC implement policies everyone knows they're never going to implement under current AT&#38;T/Verizon friendly leadership.....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is Google learning to lobby and play political PR tricks? Yeah. Does that mean much when they're up against probably the third most effective lobbying machine (aside from oil and pharma/insurance) ever built?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the first guy to cheerlead someone other than  the incumbents getting this spectrum and doing something with it that vaguely resembles open competition in this country.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m not so sure it&#8217;s all that heroic on Google&#8217;s part to say they&#8217;ll pony up big dough for broadband, but only with the caveat that the FCC implement policies everyone knows they&#8217;re never going to implement under current AT&amp;T/Verizon friendly leadership&#8230;..</p>
<p>Is Google learning to lobby and play political PR tricks? Yeah. Does that mean much when they&#8217;re up against probably the third most effective lobbying machine (aside from oil and pharma/insurance) ever built?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-375359</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks 2.owelblogs.net for saying what i have been saying for years.  Nothing is free with Google - sure, they will give you free phone service but mid sentence, they will send you a Cell phone provider voice ad because you just mentioned "i may switch cell phone companies" during your call. With Goog, free is never free.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks 2.owelblogs.net for saying what i have been saying for years.  Nothing is free with Google - sure, they will give you free phone service but mid sentence, they will send you a Cell phone provider voice ad because you just mentioned &#8220;i may switch cell phone companies&#8221; during your call. With Goog, free is never free.</p>
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		<title>By: worth</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-375356</link>
		<dc:creator>worth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sweet summary. If telcos can screw you, they will. If Google can treat you more fairly than you would ever have expected, every time they come up with a new offering or model, they will. Please win, Google.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet summary. If telcos can screw you, they will. If Google can treat you more fairly than you would ever have expected, every time they come up with a new offering or model, they will. Please win, Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Coseven</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/23/finally-google-and-schmidt-go-all-in/#comment-375319</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Coseven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;"...the most important part of telecom is the politics."  Paul, you are so right!  I wish Cisco and other technology companies would take a far more active role.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: When Titans Clash: Google Vs. AT&#38;T For America&#8217;s Internet Future &#171; Scholars and Rogues</title>
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		<dc:creator>When Titans Clash: Google Vs. AT&#38;T For America&#8217;s Internet Future &#171; Scholars and Rogues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] is an incredible development that set the technology news community collectively ablaze. More importantly, it&#8217;s as bold a statement as one can make to the spawn of Ma Bell [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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