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		<title>By: Roadmap for SL Content Creators &#171; Nalates&#8217; Things &#38; Stuff Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/04/second-life-avatar-sued-for-copyright-infringement/#comment-173787</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roadmap for SL Content Creators &#171; Nalates&#8217; Things &#38; Stuff Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] with no payment information to rip-off goods and sell them. There is a whole big thing about Stroker Serpentine versus anonymous, unregistered Volkov Catteneo. It’s hard to go after an anonymous person. This new system, if done right, has the potential to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with no payment information to rip-off goods and sell them. There is a whole big thing about Stroker Serpentine versus anonymous, unregistered Volkov Catteneo. It’s hard to go after an anonymous person. This new system, if done right, has the potential to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Area SEO</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/04/second-life-avatar-sued-for-copyright-infringement/#comment-173786</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Area SEO]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[its amazing to me that people actually spend money in second life.. in any case to each his own.. and since the items are sold for profit, as in the money is convertable to dollars it makes a whole lot of sense]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its amazing to me that people actually spend money in second life.. in any case to each his own.. and since the items are sold for profit, as in the money is convertable to dollars it makes a whole lot of sense</p>
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		<title>By: Nexeus Fatale Website &#187; The Top Virtual Issues of 2007</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/04/second-life-avatar-sued-for-copyright-infringement/#comment-173785</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nexeus Fatale Website &#187; The Top Virtual Issues of 2007]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] one was Kevin Alderman&#8217;s (a.k.a. Stroker Serpentine, or as I like to call him Cousin Stroker) lawsuit of a virtual James Doe for copying his sex-gen bed. The lawsuit was later settled but a lot of things happened in the process [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one was Kevin Alderman&#8217;s (a.k.a. Stroker Serpentine, or as I like to call him Cousin Stroker) lawsuit of a virtual James Doe for copying his sex-gen bed. The lawsuit was later settled but a lot of things happened in the process [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Impossible Thread</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/04/second-life-avatar-sued-for-copyright-infringement/#comment-173784</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Impossible Thread]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Wagner James Au doesn&#039;t seem to get it straight. The article of the Reuters contains unconfirmed claims, not known facts.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Probably the claims that Amsterdam sim was overpriced 35 000 USD are just a publicity trick of Boom BV and Stroker Serpentine. That&#039;s why they declined to comment on the exact price in the link provided by Wagner James Au himself. Well, they could lie about it legally, as long as they do not lie to the taxman.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But if Boom BV did pay the overprice, there will be another question. Why?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That could be found out by filing the &quot;Suspected money laundering report&quot; required by the persons involved in the busines by the EU law.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lovely Volkov Catteneo wrote: &quot;he’s not winning anything from me, and if he does, sexgen will become the next hit ” freebie ” item in SL.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, the motivation of Stroker Serpentine is publicity and gaining some extra money from you to his lawyer friends. Thus, I suspect that he doesn&#039;t care much of your threat, and I suspect that he doesn&#039;t make any significant amounts of money from the sexgen bed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Have you checked that Stroker Serpentine has the copyright of each part of the item which you seem to be selling illegally?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And does the subpoena violate the rights of the third party avatars?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Actually, I don&#039;t know which one of you is more disgusting, thus I&#039;m going to enjoy this play.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wagner James Au doesn&#8217;t seem to get it straight. The article of the Reuters contains unconfirmed claims, not known facts.</p>
<p>Probably the claims that Amsterdam sim was overpriced 35 000 USD are just a publicity trick of Boom BV and Stroker Serpentine. That&#8217;s why they declined to comment on the exact price in the link provided by Wagner James Au himself. Well, they could lie about it legally, as long as they do not lie to the taxman.</p>
<p>But if Boom BV did pay the overprice, there will be another question. Why?</p>
<p>That could be found out by filing the &#8220;Suspected money laundering report&#8221; required by the persons involved in the busines by the EU law.</p>
<p>Lovely Volkov Catteneo wrote: &#8220;he’s not winning anything from me, and if he does, sexgen will become the next hit ” freebie ” item in SL.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the motivation of Stroker Serpentine is publicity and gaining some extra money from you to his lawyer friends. Thus, I suspect that he doesn&#8217;t care much of your threat, and I suspect that he doesn&#8217;t make any significant amounts of money from the sexgen bed.</p>
<p>Have you checked that Stroker Serpentine has the copyright of each part of the item which you seem to be selling illegally?</p>
<p>And does the subpoena violate the rights of the third party avatars?</p>
<p>Actually, I don&#8217;t know which one of you is more disgusting, thus I&#8217;m going to enjoy this play.</p>
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		<title>By: Volkov Catteneo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/04/second-life-avatar-sued-for-copyright-infringement/#comment-173783</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Volkov Catteneo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 01:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Stroker is an ass, plain and simple, and btw, he&#039;s not winning anything from me, and if he does, sexgen will become the next hit &quot; freebie &quot; item in SL.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stroker is an ass, plain and simple, and btw, he&#8217;s not winning anything from me, and if he does, sexgen will become the next hit &#8221; freebie &#8221; item in SL.</p>
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		<title>By: Third Life? &#171; 21 Clicks</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/04/second-life-avatar-sued-for-copyright-infringement/#comment-173782</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Third Life? &#171; 21 Clicks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Avatar sues for copyright infringement    Filed under: Second Life  [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Avatar sues for copyright infringement    Filed under: Second Life  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jorge</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/04/second-life-avatar-sued-for-copyright-infringement/#comment-173781</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jorge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Wait a minute, did somebody say avatars can have sex? SWEET!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a minute, did somebody say avatars can have sex? SWEET!</p>
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		<title>By: The Web War &#187; When Avatars attack!</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/04/second-life-avatar-sued-for-copyright-infringement/#comment-173780</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Web War &#187; When Avatars attack!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 06:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] It appears that an avatar on Second Life is filing a lawsuit against another avatar (true identity unknown) for stealing his product idea and undercutting his profits on some VIRTUAL porn merchandise. Oh my oh my&#8230; You can&#8217;t make this stuff up. [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It appears that an avatar on Second Life is filing a lawsuit against another avatar (true identity unknown) for stealing his product idea and undercutting his profits on some VIRTUAL porn merchandise. Oh my oh my&#8230; You can&#8217;t make this stuff up. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Zone Read &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-07-04</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/04/second-life-avatar-sued-for-copyright-infringement/#comment-173779</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Zone Read &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-07-04]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] GigaOM Second Life Avatar Sued for Copyright Infringement « In the 80s Stewart Brand advocated creating laws to govern &#8220;virtual reality.&#8221; GigaOM is reporting a lawsuit in SecondLife today. Kevin Alderman filed a suit against avatar Volkov for copyright infringement on a &#8220;sex bed.&#8221; (tags: secondlife law) [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] GigaOM Second Life Avatar Sued for Copyright Infringement « In the 80s Stewart Brand advocated creating laws to govern &#8220;virtual reality.&#8221; GigaOM is reporting a lawsuit in SecondLife today. Kevin Alderman filed a suit against avatar Volkov for copyright infringement on a &#8220;sex bed.&#8221; (tags: secondlife law) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Reuters Second Life // Η πρώτη virtual μήνυση at IonBlog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/04/second-life-avatar-sued-for-copyright-infringement/#comment-173778</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reuters Second Life // Η πρώτη virtual μήνυση at IonBlog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 10:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] για το SL, έχουν και virtual offices, κανονικά - με office hours&#8230; [Blog post @ GigaOM] - Ο λόγος που ανακάλυψα το πρακτορείο Reuters στο SL, ήταν [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] για το SL, έχουν και virtual offices, κανονικά &#8211; με office hours&#8230; [Blog post @ GigaOM] &#8211; Ο λόγος που ανακάλυψα το πρακτορείο Reuters στο SL, ήταν [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Rice</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/04/second-life-avatar-sued-for-copyright-infringement/#comment-173777</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Rice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 21:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Second Life is a piece of software, avatars are accounts. Holding a trial in Second Life is like holding a trial in Photoshop.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@Mary if I reverse engineer your software, and sell it, where would you like to battle it out? :)&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Second Life is a piece of software, avatars are accounts. Holding a trial in Second Life is like holding a trial in Photoshop.</p>
<p>@Mary if I reverse engineer your software, and sell it, where would you like to battle it out? :)</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Bresticker</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/04/second-life-avatar-sued-for-copyright-infringement/#comment-173776</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary Bresticker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Putting aside the legal ramifications of this whole thing, I am still trying to wrap my head around two avatars in court.  Does it make more sense if the trial is actually held in Second Life?  That would certainly increase the level of &quot;unprecedented&quot; to Defcon Chartreuse.  Sheesh.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-Mary from BINC&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putting aside the legal ramifications of this whole thing, I am still trying to wrap my head around two avatars in court.  Does it make more sense if the trial is actually held in Second Life?  That would certainly increase the level of &#8220;unprecedented&#8221; to Defcon Chartreuse.  Sheesh.</p>
<p>-Mary from BINC</p>
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		<title>By: Second Life Avatar Sued in RL Court &#171; The Grid Live</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/04/second-life-avatar-sued-for-copyright-infringement/#comment-173775</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Second Life Avatar Sued in RL Court &#171; The Grid Live]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Stroker was contacted by the website GigaOM who asked him why he took it to trial instead of going in world and making sure the residents know so the can ostracize him. Stroker said he tried that route before, Stroker tells me he did try that method in another case, but ironically, it backfired. “[T]he last time this happened I confronted the individual about it and requested that they cease and desist…,” he says, “I was made out to be a bully and dragged through the [SL community] forums.” Linden Lab has a system for letting users file DMCA suits against each other; Stroker tried that twice, but wasn’t happy with how Linden responded. So he found a law firm specializing in copyright/trademark disputes. “We weighed all alternatives and listened to a lot of advice. So here we are.” Source: Second Life Avatar Sued for Copyright Infringement [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stroker was contacted by the website GigaOM who asked him why he took it to trial instead of going in world and making sure the residents know so the can ostracize him. Stroker said he tried that route before, Stroker tells me he did try that method in another case, but ironically, it backfired. “[T]he last time this happened I confronted the individual about it and requested that they cease and desist…,” he says, “I was made out to be a bully and dragged through the [SL community] forums.” Linden Lab has a system for letting users file DMCA suits against each other; Stroker tried that twice, but wasn’t happy with how Linden responded. So he found a law firm specializing in copyright/trademark disputes. “We weighed all alternatives and listened to a lot of advice. So here we are.” Source: Second Life Avatar Sued for Copyright Infringement [...]</p>
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		<title>By: taotakashi</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/07/04/second-life-avatar-sued-for-copyright-infringement/#comment-173774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[taotakashi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 08:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The question is whether it&#039;s a knock off or a direct copy of the source code. In the first case I doubt that anything can or should be done against it. This plays into software patents which I think are a bad idea in general because it&#039;s about patenting ideas (there are many similar items of course in SL anyway).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If it&#039;s a direct copy of the source code (however he might have gotten hold of it) then it&#039;s a different case.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Regarding the Blizzard analogy from Eric I think it depends whether you can change the code on their servers.. Just publishing some algorithm which calculates the frequency of loot is not going to court except they hacked Blizzard and took their original source code.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is whether it&#8217;s a knock off or a direct copy of the source code. In the first case I doubt that anything can or should be done against it. This plays into software patents which I think are a bad idea in general because it&#8217;s about patenting ideas (there are many similar items of course in SL anyway).</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s a direct copy of the source code (however he might have gotten hold of it) then it&#8217;s a different case.</p>
<p>Regarding the Blizzard analogy from Eric I think it depends whether you can change the code on their servers.. Just publishing some algorithm which calculates the frequency of loot is not going to court except they hacked Blizzard and took their original source code.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stirrdup Trackback]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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