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	<title>Comments on: Boingo goes flat. And that&#8217;s good</title>
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		<title>By: Nicole Simon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/24/flat-rate-boingo/#comment-283097</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Reliable Coverage and access point, global billing and everything does cost money to set up. I am all for them earning a decent amount of money and if I want a service, I have to pay for it. So far, we are on the same side I would assume.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think it is time for them to recognize that actually there is a group of biz people who runs around the world (from the point of the providers) and wants reliable, cost effective access.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If they go on charging premium, other modells will emerge - think high hotel costs for phones. Who does use them anymore for other than calls to the reception and other rooms? Yes some people still do - but those are not the ones they wanted to bill.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Especially having a global player like T-Mobile it is a shame they do not understand to offer me a product which caters to my needs. (And i would be satisfied with Europe and the US for a beginning ...)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Re boingo - I only have seen their network in London once. So great if they offer a flatrate but bad if I cannot use it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reliable Coverage and access point, global billing and everything does cost money to set up. I am all for them earning a decent amount of money and if I want a service, I have to pay for it. So far, we are on the same side I would assume.</p>

<p>I think it is time for them to recognize that actually there is a group of biz people who runs around the world (from the point of the providers) and wants reliable, cost effective access.</p>

<p>If they go on charging premium, other modells will emerge &#8211; think high hotel costs for phones. Who does use them anymore for other than calls to the reception and other rooms? Yes some people still do &#8211; but those are not the ones they wanted to bill.</p>

<p>Especially having a global player like T-Mobile it is a shame they do not understand to offer me a product which caters to my needs. (And i would be satisfied with Europe and the US for a beginning &#8230;)</p>

<p>Re boingo &#8211; I only have seen their network in London once. So great if they offer a flatrate but bad if I cannot use it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Free Wi-Fi Internet Access for PLDT myDSL Subscribers &#171; Knightly News</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/24/flat-rate-boingo/#comment-253441</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Wi-Fi Internet Access for PLDT myDSL Subscribers &#171; Knightly News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 01:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] The trend is holding up as can be gleaned from this article. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The trend is holding up as can be gleaned from this article. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: wotan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/24/flat-rate-boingo/#comment-251370</link>
		<dc:creator>wotan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 18:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you purchase Deutsche Telekom&#039;s most expensive Internet (16mbit) and Telephone (2 lines via ISDN incl up to 10 numbers) package for around 60€ you can use all of their Routers for free. I haven&#039;t found out whether that goes worldwide or is limited to Germany but it is at least a starting point&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you purchase Deutsche Telekom&#8217;s most expensive Internet (16mbit) and Telephone (2 lines via ISDN incl up to 10 numbers) package for around 60€ you can use all of their Routers for free. I haven&#8217;t found out whether that goes worldwide or is limited to Germany but it is at least a starting point</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/24/flat-rate-boingo/#comment-251145</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, Glenn you are right about the cancellation fees on t-mobile, and also about the month-to-month nature of boingo&#039;s plans. i like this deal since i do travel internationally and hopefully others will follow suit as well.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;thanks for your excellent analysis.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Glenn you are right about the cancellation fees on t-mobile, and also about the month-to-month nature of boingo&#8217;s plans. i like this deal since i do travel internationally and hopefully others will follow suit as well.</p>

<p>thanks for your excellent analysis.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Glenn Fleishman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/24/flat-rate-boingo/#comment-250916</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Fleishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Couple of thoughts. First, T-Mobile only charges $20 per month if you make a one-year commitment as a voice customer; it&#039;s $30 per month otherwise. Both plans have cancellation penalties, too! The month to month has a fee when you halt automatic recurring billing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Despite T-Mobile having international operations, their $20-$30 per month fee for customers only includes 8,500 U.S. location. Overseas T-Mobile and related hotspots are metered but can be billed to the same account.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To Bob WiMax Kim, I&#039;d note that mobile WiMax prices haven&#039;t yet been set yet for rates the correspond to Wi-Fi hotspots and their backhaul. Clearwire will already charge you $30+ per month for their proprietary flavor of WiMax, they have limited coverage, no mobility adapters yet (just nomadic ones), and offer just 128 Kbps upstream on their cheaper plan. Wi-Fi backhaul can be poor, but at &quot;professional&quot; locations like airports and so forth, upstream speeds tend to be much higher, thus useful for uploading photographs, business presentations, and other stuff.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are no current plans for mobile WiMax roaming among carriers. The earliest that might happen could be 2009 or later, unless Sprint and Clearwire strike a roaming deal and work hard to make it happen in 2008.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Om, you note, &quot;Even if one can use this flat rate plan for say two months while traveling through Europe or moving around Asia, this seems to be worth it.&quot; It&#039;s probably useful to note that Boingo is month to month, no cancellation fees, which means that you can use it at will in a given month by turning the account on and off.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple of thoughts. First, T-Mobile only charges $20 per month if you make a one-year commitment as a voice customer; it&#8217;s $30 per month otherwise. Both plans have cancellation penalties, too! The month to month has a fee when you halt automatic recurring billing.</p>

<p>Despite T-Mobile having international operations, their $20-$30 per month fee for customers only includes 8,500 U.S. location. Overseas T-Mobile and related hotspots are metered but can be billed to the same account.</p>

<p>To Bob WiMax Kim, I&#8217;d note that mobile WiMax prices haven&#8217;t yet been set yet for rates the correspond to Wi-Fi hotspots and their backhaul. Clearwire will already charge you $30+ per month for their proprietary flavor of WiMax, they have limited coverage, no mobility adapters yet (just nomadic ones), and offer just 128 Kbps upstream on their cheaper plan. Wi-Fi backhaul can be poor, but at &#8220;professional&#8221; locations like airports and so forth, upstream speeds tend to be much higher, thus useful for uploading photographs, business presentations, and other stuff.</p>

<p>There are no current plans for mobile WiMax roaming among carriers. The earliest that might happen could be 2009 or later, unless Sprint and Clearwire strike a roaming deal and work hard to make it happen in 2008.</p>

<p>Om, you note, &#8220;Even if one can use this flat rate plan for say two months while traveling through Europe or moving around Asia, this seems to be worth it.&#8221; It&#8217;s probably useful to note that Boingo is month to month, no cancellation fees, which means that you can use it at will in a given month by turning the account on and off.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/24/flat-rate-boingo/#comment-250586</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 16:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;but when compared to paying like $60 for two days, it doesn&#039;t seem that much i think a lot of us would settle for $55. But the price is going to fall, as others would try and match this price, or even beat boingo on the price.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but when compared to paying like $60 for two days, it doesn&#8217;t seem that much i think a lot of us would settle for $55. But the price is going to fall, as others would try and match this price, or even beat boingo on the price.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: bob wimax kim</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/24/flat-rate-boingo/#comment-250572</link>
		<dc:creator>bob wimax kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 16:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;its still a rip off.. 39 euros is about 55 dollars on a good day! for friggin wifi... not wimax?!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its still a rip off.. 39 euros is about 55 dollars on a good day! for friggin wifi&#8230; not wimax?!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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