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		<title>By: Asleep At The Wheel: The Yahoo Board - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-860568</link>
		<dc:creator>Asleep At The Wheel: The Yahoo Board - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] of it? Instead they decided to reward him with $71 million, much to the chagrin of the investors, before showing him the door. As one talented executive (and engineer) after another left the company, looking to go chase [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of it? Instead they decided to reward him with $71 million, much to the chagrin of the investors, before showing him the door. As one talented executive (and engineer) after another left the company, looking to go chase [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RGB Effects</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-238788</link>
		<dc:creator>RGB Effects</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Who is Buying Yahoo? Handicapping 5 likely suitors&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Written by Kevin Kelleher At least Yahoo can’t complain this week about Google grabbing all the headlines.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Who is Buying Yahoo? Handicapping 5 likely suitors</strong></p>

<p>Written by Kevin Kelleher At least Yahoo can’t complain this week about Google grabbing all the headlines.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: GigaOM Semel exits masks yet another bad quarter at Yahoo &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-218634</link>
		<dc:creator>GigaOM Semel exits masks yet another bad quarter at Yahoo &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] by Om Malik  Tuesday, June 19, 2007 at 8:16 AM PT &#124; No comments   Terry Semel-Sue Decker-Jerry Yang drama had us all distracted from the fact that Yahoo (YHOO) is going to report yet another bad [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by Om Malik  Tuesday, June 19, 2007 at 8:16 AM PT | No comments   Terry Semel-Sue Decker-Jerry Yang drama had us all distracted from the fact that Yahoo (YHOO) is going to report yet another bad [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Venture Itch</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-217791</link>
		<dc:creator>Venture Itch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good riddance!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Besides acquisitions of Flickr and Del.icio.us  and success of Yahoo Answers, Yahoo has botched everything it touched in recent years.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good riddance!</p>

<p>Besides acquisitions of Flickr and Del.icio.us  and success of Yahoo Answers, Yahoo has botched everything it touched in recent years.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: EKS</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-217491</link>
		<dc:creator>EKS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Why Yang, who Semel was brought into replace after he and co-founder David Filo let the company run adrift?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not quite. TK and Jeff Mallett ran Y! from 1995 until when Semel came in. TK took it public and managed the street, Jeff managed the company as COO.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why Yang, who Semel was brought into replace after he and co-founder David Filo let the company run adrift?&#8221;</p>

<p>Not quite. TK and Jeff Mallett ran Y! from 1995 until when Semel came in. TK took it public and managed the street, Jeff managed the company as COO.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: JFSN</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-217294</link>
		<dc:creator>JFSN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Perhaps the last of the media integration shills has finally left the building. Hey, Terry, I hear that Steve Case is looking for someone who still remembers how to speak 1999 jargon. You know: collaboration; leverage; clicks; eyeballs; paradigm shifts; new economy. Another member of the industry of distraction bites the dust. So long.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the last of the media integration shills has finally left the building. Hey, Terry, I hear that Steve Case is looking for someone who still remembers how to speak 1999 jargon. You know: collaboration; leverage; clicks; eyeballs; paradigm shifts; new economy. Another member of the industry of distraction bites the dust. So long.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Trevor F. Smith</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-217228</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor F. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;A Yahoo! that better monetizes its audience.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Perhaps someone should tell Yang that the people formerly known as the audience don&#039;t like to be monetized.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A Yahoo! that better monetizes its audience.&#8221;</p>

<p>Perhaps someone should tell Yang that the people formerly known as the audience don&#8217;t like to be monetized.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kevin Kelleher</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-216393</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Kelleher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ivan, good point regarding Koogle. But neither does Yang (nor Filo) have experience running a $6 billion company.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;SSDJ, Interesting anecdote. Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivan, good point regarding Koogle. But neither does Yang (nor Filo) have experience running a $6 billion company.</p>

<p>SSDJ, Interesting anecdote. Thanks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-216330</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Instead, we have corny PR.&quot; - How long have you been a reporter / blogger for? Come on - Corporate America never or rarely speaks the plain truth! It would be naive to think otherwise.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think we are being nostalgic about the Internet without a Yahoo! Is the world any worse now that Netscape is gone...? This is the tech / internet field. Shift happens.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Instead, we have corny PR.&#8221; &#8211; How long have you been a reporter / blogger for? Come on &#8211; Corporate America never or rarely speaks the plain truth! It would be naive to think otherwise.</p>

<p>I think we are being nostalgic about the Internet without a Yahoo! Is the world any worse now that Netscape is gone&#8230;? This is the tech / internet field. Shift happens.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ivan Pope</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-216283</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivan Pope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&#039;Why Yang, who Semel was brought into replace after he and co-founder David Filo let the company run adrift?&#039;
You seem to have missed Tim Koogle who actually ran Yahoo! for the first six or seven years. Yang and Filo never actually ran Yahoo! so they can&#039;t really be accused of letting it run adrift before Semel got in. Yang is now CEO for the first time, although he is a founder.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Why Yang, who Semel was brought into replace after he and co-founder David Filo let the company run adrift?&#8217;
You seem to have missed Tim Koogle who actually ran Yahoo! for the first six or seven years. Yang and Filo never actually ran Yahoo! so they can&#8217;t really be accused of letting it run adrift before Semel got in. Yang is now CEO for the first time, although he is a founder.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: SSDJ</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-216135</link>
		<dc:creator>SSDJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am a Yahoo employee. Let me tell you a small tale of why Yang is not just a weak CEO candidate - he&#039;s even a pathetic CTO.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Every quarter or so - Y! holds a hack day. Six months back Mr. Yang got particularly excited about a hack that lets third party sites show Yahoo ads that leverage the viewers behavioral profile on Y!.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All fine and good. Except of course that this is trivially simple. All that needs to happen is that Y! needs to serve ads from yahoo.com (so that the user&#039;s Y! cookies are visible to the ad servers). However - for the longest time, Y! has not done that (it has used overture.com as it&#039;s serving domain for third party ads).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This purported hack (which was voted best-of by execs - mainly including Yang) - instead required users to sign on to Yahoo and for the third party site to place a login widget on their site. How can a CTO level person not see that a much simpler and more obvious solution is preferable?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course, the hack never went anywhere. Mr. Yang may not get it - but thankfully - many lesser mortals in Y! do. In many years of serving Silicon Valley firms, I have yet to see a company with such diminished technical leadership. (Mr. Filo is no better - but that would require even more verbiage).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Yahoo employee. Let me tell you a small tale of why Yang is not just a weak CEO candidate &#8211; he&#8217;s even a pathetic CTO.</p>

<p>Every quarter or so &#8211; Y! holds a hack day. Six months back Mr. Yang got particularly excited about a hack that lets third party sites show Yahoo ads that leverage the viewers behavioral profile on Y!.</p>

<p>All fine and good. Except of course that this is trivially simple. All that needs to happen is that Y! needs to serve ads from yahoo.com (so that the user&#8217;s Y! cookies are visible to the ad servers). However &#8211; for the longest time, Y! has not done that (it has used overture.com as it&#8217;s serving domain for third party ads).</p>

<p>This purported hack (which was voted best-of by execs &#8211; mainly including Yang) &#8211; instead required users to sign on to Yahoo and for the third party site to place a login widget on their site. How can a CTO level person not see that a much simpler and more obvious solution is preferable?</p>

<p>Of course, the hack never went anywhere. Mr. Yang may not get it &#8211; but thankfully &#8211; many lesser mortals in Y! do. In many years of serving Silicon Valley firms, I have yet to see a company with such diminished technical leadership. (Mr. Filo is no better &#8211; but that would require even more verbiage).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Deep Jive Interests &#187; Jerry Yang, New CEO Of Yahoo: Exactly What Yahoo *Doesn't* Need?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-215623</link>
		<dc:creator>Deep Jive Interests &#187; Jerry Yang, New CEO Of Yahoo: Exactly What Yahoo *Doesn't* Need?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] at 12:25 am  While I am not a Yahoo! watcher by any means, the change in the guard at Yahoo! is clearly something that&#8217;s reverberating throughout the technosphere, so heck &#8212; I&#8217;ll give [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at 12:25 am  While I am not a Yahoo! watcher by any means, the change in the guard at Yahoo! is clearly something that&#8217;s reverberating throughout the technosphere, so heck &#8212; I&#8217;ll give [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: techmine</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-215607</link>
		<dc:creator>techmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 04:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Change is always good! Hope Yahoo revives itself and remain a strong competition to MSN and Google.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change is always good! Hope Yahoo revives itself and remain a strong competition to MSN and Google.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: gwhiz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-215043</link>
		<dc:creator>gwhiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 02:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just anecdotal pondering of the navel... But, was Mr. Semel 6 points to the bad? Or, is Yang 6 points to the good (on rep alone no less)? And, how many frontline employees would it take laying off to yield a 6 point bounce like that? Semel was cut. Somehow, someway he was cut.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mrs. Decker has a mission critical product to deliver. Until that beastie lands... it makes NO sense yanking her from the lineup and serving her a heaping helping of distractions.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just anecdotal pondering of the navel&#8230; But, was Mr. Semel 6 points to the bad? Or, is Yang 6 points to the good (on rep alone no less)? And, how many frontline employees would it take laying off to yield a 6 point bounce like that? Semel was cut. Somehow, someway he was cut.</p>

<p>Mrs. Decker has a mission critical product to deliver. Until that beastie lands&#8230; it makes NO sense yanking her from the lineup and serving her a heaping helping of distractions.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: James Plouf</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/18/yahoo-semel/#comment-214835</link>
		<dc:creator>James Plouf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 01:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A world without Yahoo! is a scary world.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A world without Yahoo! is a scary world.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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