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	<title>Comments on: CellCarriers fear mobile VoIP planet</title>
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		<title>By: pushya</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/15/tmobile-truphone/#comment-172553</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pushya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey guys
         I have seen a website in the net  it would be use full to call free any ware in                                                                                                                    the world from uk try this link:http://www.bestmobilesaver.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys<br />
         I have seen a website in the net  it would be use full to call free any ware in                                                                                                                    the world from uk try this link:<a href="http://www.bestmobilesaver.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bestmobilesaver.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mobile VoIP Reviews</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/15/tmobile-truphone/#comment-172552</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mobile VoIP Reviews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 01:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Six months later and still nothing from a large carrier in the mVoIP space. Interesting, though, that most of the users of mVoIP are happy. Check out http://www.mobilevoipreview.com for user generated reviews.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Six months later and still nothing from a large carrier in the mVoIP space. Interesting, though, that most of the users of mVoIP are happy. Check out <a href="http://www.mobilevoipreview.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mobilevoipreview.com</a> for user generated reviews.</p>
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		<title>By: weisen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/15/tmobile-truphone/#comment-172551</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[weisen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Great article and discussion, but to all of the people who seem to misunderstand the article, please re-read it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The problem is &lt;em&gt;NOT&lt;/em&gt; T-mobile blocking the use of the VOIP client on their network, but rather refusing to terminate regular cellular calls TO a block of UK numbers recently assigned to Truphone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is NOTHING to do with data plans.  We&#039;re talking regular GSM cellular calls on the T-mobile side.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s akin to, say, T-mobile refusing to connect calls to Virgin Mobile subscribers.  It&#039;s just punitive.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article and discussion, but to all of the people who seem to misunderstand the article, please re-read it.</p>
<p>The problem is <em>NOT</em> T-mobile blocking the use of the VOIP client on their network, but rather refusing to terminate regular cellular calls TO a block of UK numbers recently assigned to Truphone.</p>
<p>This is NOTHING to do with data plans.  We&#8217;re talking regular GSM cellular calls on the T-mobile side.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s akin to, say, T-mobile refusing to connect calls to Virgin Mobile subscribers.  It&#8217;s just punitive.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/15/tmobile-truphone/#comment-172550</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;With WiMax u can bypass the Telco n lauch your own Telco based on WiMax services:)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So here comes WiMax. Be interesting to see how the telco&#039;s respond?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With WiMax u can bypass the Telco n lauch your own Telco based on WiMax services:)</p>
<p>So here comes WiMax. Be interesting to see how the telco&#8217;s respond?</p>
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		<title>By: PhilT</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/15/tmobile-truphone/#comment-172549</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PhilT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s a fair bit of misinformation around this, T-mobile UK have call plans for PAYG customers that are 12p/minute not the 35p claimed by Truphone, then there&#039;s the inclusive calls on pay monthly tariffs etc which are at lower effective rates.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a fair bit of misinformation around this, T-mobile UK have call plans for PAYG customers that are 12p/minute not the 35p claimed by Truphone, then there&#8217;s the inclusive calls on pay monthly tariffs etc which are at lower effective rates.</p>
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		<title>By: lindasQandA</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/15/tmobile-truphone/#comment-172548</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lindasQandA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 05:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The competition IS heating up!  perhaps, the mobile industry needs to learn from other industries and embrace new technologies - sometimes the smartest strategy is to eat your lunch than have none left....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, T-Mobile’s fears could almost be understandable.  How else are they going to meet their performance projections?  ;)  Rebtel’s CEO Hjalmar Windbladh explained that Vodafone’s annual revenue increases can be attributed to customers not using their inclusive minutes offered with their phone contracts.  Read the full story on http://blog.rebtel.com/  Perhaps, they want to protect their investment in Jajah?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Personally, the troubles between T-Mobile and Truphone are indicative of old phone company mentality.  However, the real discussion is why trouble yourself, there already exists a solution for long distance calls  - the real solution is www.rebtel.com&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The competition IS heating up!  perhaps, the mobile industry needs to learn from other industries and embrace new technologies &#8211; sometimes the smartest strategy is to eat your lunch than have none left&#8230;.</p>
<p>However, T-Mobile’s fears could almost be understandable.  How else are they going to meet their performance projections?  ;)  Rebtel’s CEO Hjalmar Windbladh explained that Vodafone’s annual revenue increases can be attributed to customers not using their inclusive minutes offered with their phone contracts.  Read the full story on <a href="http://blog.rebtel.com/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.rebtel.com/</a>  Perhaps, they want to protect their investment in Jajah?</p>
<p>Personally, the troubles between T-Mobile and Truphone are indicative of old phone company mentality.  However, the real discussion is why trouble yourself, there already exists a solution for long distance calls  &#8211; the real solution is <a href="http://www.rebtel.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rebtel.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Herbert</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/15/tmobile-truphone/#comment-172547</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Herbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;This could be a good thing for consumers. The public seem to have heard about Truphone more than anyone else and probably haven&#039;t tried any other services. The reality is that Truphone is NOT the best mobile VOiP service available. All their software does is configure Nokias SIP client, which is a terrible business and as I see it they don&#039;t actually have a product.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could be a good thing for consumers. The public seem to have heard about Truphone more than anyone else and probably haven&#8217;t tried any other services. The reality is that Truphone is NOT the best mobile VOiP service available. All their software does is configure Nokias SIP client, which is a terrible business and as I see it they don&#8217;t actually have a product.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus Goebel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/15/tmobile-truphone/#comment-172546</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Markus Goebel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Blocking Truphone is like trying to cut all of Hydra&#039;s heads. It&#039;s not only Truphone which is offering VoIP over 3G and over Wifi. It&#039;s also Fring, Wifimobile, Mobiboo, Yeigo, aql and thousands of other companies worldwide. In fact every SIP based VoIP provider can do a quite similar job like Truphone. It makes no difference if you install your SIP login data into a mobile phone or an ATA or a soft phone.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blocking Truphone is like trying to cut all of Hydra&#8217;s heads. It&#8217;s not only Truphone which is offering VoIP over 3G and over Wifi. It&#8217;s also Fring, Wifimobile, Mobiboo, Yeigo, aql and thousands of other companies worldwide. In fact every SIP based VoIP provider can do a quite similar job like Truphone. It makes no difference if you install your SIP login data into a mobile phone or an ATA or a soft phone.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Bubley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/15/tmobile-truphone/#comment-172545</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dean Bubley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 10:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Essentially the whole area of FMC and wVoIP completely breaks the European termination fee regime.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The general assumption that call to 07xxx Mobile Number = Termination on Expensive Mobile Network is now invalid.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Calls to any number - fixed, mobile, VoIP or a Skype or other ID - now might actually terminate on a cellphone, fixed phone, or other device, via VoWLAN, VoIPo3G, circuit, high-quality circuit, voicemail server or perhaps be forked to 2 or more of these.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some solutions are possible -&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;a) Biller keeps all the money, but they have to interconnect everywhere to keep their customers happy&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;b) Because mobile numbers are more &quot;valuable&quot; than fixed numbers (people tend to put them in their phonebooks first, plus they assume they can receive SMS etc), charge the operator for each 07x number issued.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Essentially the whole area of FMC and wVoIP completely breaks the European termination fee regime.</p>
<p>The general assumption that call to 07xxx Mobile Number = Termination on Expensive Mobile Network is now invalid.</p>
<p>Calls to any number &#8211; fixed, mobile, VoIP or a Skype or other ID &#8211; now might actually terminate on a cellphone, fixed phone, or other device, via VoWLAN, VoIPo3G, circuit, high-quality circuit, voicemail server or perhaps be forked to 2 or more of these.</p>
<p>Some solutions are possible -</p>
<p>a) Biller keeps all the money, but they have to interconnect everywhere to keep their customers happy</p>
<p>b) Because mobile numbers are more &#8220;valuable&#8221; than fixed numbers (people tend to put them in their phonebooks first, plus they assume they can receive SMS etc), charge the operator for each 07x number issued.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/15/tmobile-truphone/#comment-172544</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 14:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;An eerie vision of the future without Net Neutrality:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt0XUocViE&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know if there&#039;s a Net Neutrality movement in Europe, but the video is proof they need one.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An eerie vision of the future without Net Neutrality:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt0XUocViE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt0XUocViE</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s a Net Neutrality movement in Europe, but the video is proof they need one.</p>
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