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	<title>Comments on: ComScore Widget Metrix, more like a Jellybean Contest</title>
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		<title>By: Jonas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;How about adsense or any ad network for that matter...&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about adsense or any ad network for that matter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James Gross</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/14/comscore-widget-metrix-more-like-a-widgetbean-contest/#comment-172395</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Gross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;comScore is a joke!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comScore is a joke!</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Mitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jordan Mitchell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t see widgets as a simple embed of static pictures, videos, etc. I view widgets as the embedding of distributed &lt;em&gt;programs&lt;/em&gt; from other sites. So embedding a static YouTube video or picture wouldn&#039;t count (in my opinion) -- that&#039;s just content from another source, which has been happening for years -- though embedding a program that allows a user to cycle thru videos/pictures would.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe the distinction for me is the distributed functionality. If the &quot;widget&quot; is static for everyone and not dynamic or controllable by either the viewer or publisher can tailor it, then it&#039;s content. If it&#039;s dynamic and/or controllable by the view or publisher, then it&#039;s a widget.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Clearly I&#039;m making this up as I go along, but seems to work for me! :-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That said, you&#039;re right about the business model challenges. It&#039;s best to think about widgets as free ad placement for the publishers, and measure them on that basis -- impressions, uniques, conversion, etc. That&#039;s where the value is (though I&#039;m convinced someone will figure out a &quot;meta-ad&quot; model behind it at some point).&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see widgets as a simple embed of static pictures, videos, etc. I view widgets as the embedding of distributed <em>programs</em> from other sites. So embedding a static YouTube video or picture wouldn&#8217;t count (in my opinion) &#8212; that&#8217;s just content from another source, which has been happening for years &#8212; though embedding a program that allows a user to cycle thru videos/pictures would.</p>
<p>Maybe the distinction for me is the distributed functionality. If the &#8220;widget&#8221; is static for everyone and not dynamic or controllable by either the viewer or publisher can tailor it, then it&#8217;s content. If it&#8217;s dynamic and/or controllable by the view or publisher, then it&#8217;s a widget.</p>
<p>Clearly I&#8217;m making this up as I go along, but seems to work for me! :-)</p>
<p>That said, you&#8217;re right about the business model challenges. It&#8217;s best to think about widgets as free ad placement for the publishers, and measure them on that basis &#8212; impressions, uniques, conversion, etc. That&#8217;s where the value is (though I&#8217;m convinced someone will figure out a &#8220;meta-ad&#8221; model behind it at some point).</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/14/comscore-widget-metrix-more-like-a-widgetbean-contest/#comment-172393</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[danny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;yeah, a list with all photo widgets and no video widgets is a pretty strange list.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;youtube and flickr, the widget kings, used widgets/embeds as an acquisition + marketing tool, not a business model.  that&#039;s pretty much where the value lies.  so it can help the business, but it can&#039;t BE the business..well, unless you&#039;re photobucket...&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, a list with all photo widgets and no video widgets is a pretty strange list.</p>
<p>youtube and flickr, the widget kings, used widgets/embeds as an acquisition + marketing tool, not a business model.  that&#8217;s pretty much where the value lies.  so it can help the business, but it can&#8217;t BE the business..well, unless you&#8217;re photobucket&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;OM - right on brother!!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On a related note - if I remember right - you mentioned in your disclosure a while ago that you had an interest in a widget company.  Does that still hold - if not I stand corrected.  If you are - it only adds credibility to your observations (and assumptions).&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OM &#8211; right on brother!!!</p>
<p>On a related note &#8211; if I remember right &#8211; you mentioned in your disclosure a while ago that you had an interest in a widget company.  Does that still hold &#8211; if not I stand corrected.  If you are &#8211; it only adds credibility to your observations (and assumptions).</p>
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		<title>By: whitneymcn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whitneymcn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;What &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blackmailr.com/smr/2007/06/13/widget-metrics-and-linguistic-precision/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I found interesting&lt;/a&gt; (i.e. disturbing) was that when VentureBeat picked up the Slide aspect of the story, the post title was &quot;Slide pounds chest: Widget used by 14 percent of internet population.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Whether or not the comScore numbers are accurate, it worries me that in the current widget environment it&#039;s so easy for someone to make the mental shift to calling comScore&#039;s metric &quot;users,&quot; which implies some sort of active engagement with the widget, when in fact comScore&#039;s metric is &quot;viewers,&quot; i.e. a passive audience that may or may not have even noticed the widget.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I continue to believe that we&#039;re heading for a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.widgetbubble.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;widget bubble.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What <a href="http://www.blackmailr.com/smr/2007/06/13/widget-metrics-and-linguistic-precision/" rel="nofollow">I found interesting</a> (i.e. disturbing) was that when VentureBeat picked up the Slide aspect of the story, the post title was &#8220;Slide pounds chest: Widget used by 14 percent of internet population.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whether or not the comScore numbers are accurate, it worries me that in the current widget environment it&#8217;s so easy for someone to make the mental shift to calling comScore&#8217;s metric &#8220;users,&#8221; which implies some sort of active engagement with the widget, when in fact comScore&#8217;s metric is &#8220;viewers,&#8221; i.e. a passive audience that may or may not have even noticed the widget.</p>
<p>I continue to believe that we&#8217;re heading for a <a href="http://www.widgetbubble.com" rel="nofollow">widget bubble.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bill Hartzer</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/06/14/comscore-widget-metrix-more-like-a-widgetbean-contest/#comment-172390</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Hartzer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I wasn&#039;t aware that people have questioned the comScore data in the past. I&#039;ll definitely take a look at those links and try to talk to comScore to figure it all out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I agree with you that widgets are definitely needed; and if the opening up recently by Facebook and the response that they had is any indication, it looks like widgets are going to be around for a long time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Since web widgets are being used so much, someone has to report the numbers--because those numbers are so useful to advertisers and site owners. Perhaps by comScore tracking this data it might get someone else to start tracking it, as well.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t aware that people have questioned the comScore data in the past. I&#8217;ll definitely take a look at those links and try to talk to comScore to figure it all out.</p>
<p>I agree with you that widgets are definitely needed; and if the opening up recently by Facebook and the response that they had is any indication, it looks like widgets are going to be around for a long time.</p>
<p>Since web widgets are being used so much, someone has to report the numbers&#8211;because those numbers are so useful to advertisers and site owners. Perhaps by comScore tracking this data it might get someone else to start tracking it, as well.</p>
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		<title>By: aarong</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aarong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 08:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;om, you are right on the money. 100% of the time.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>om, you are right on the money. 100% of the time.</p>
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