Comments on: Little Slovenia, part of the Big Fiber Dream http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:57:49 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Ali http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-161909 Ali Sat, 09 Jun 2007 09:49:37 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-161909 <p>Hi everyone!</p> <p>As an employee of one of the subcontractors of the company, which is currently constructing Slovenia's fiber network I must correct some of the misinformation. T-2 is solely an ISP, the infrastructure is build and owned by a Slovenian construction, telecommunication and communal company called Gratel. Gratel is building this network for leasing it to all ISP that would show interest in providing fiber services.</p> Hi everyone!

As an employee of one of the subcontractors of the company, which is currently constructing Slovenia’s fiber network I must correct some of the misinformation. T-2 is solely an ISP, the infrastructure is build and owned by a Slovenian construction, telecommunication and communal company called Gratel. Gratel is building this network for leasing it to all ISP that would show interest in providing fiber services.

]]> By: IndependentFTTHAnalyst http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-135802 IndependentFTTHAnalyst Sat, 02 Jun 2007 23:14:12 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-135802 <p>True, T-2 has started some 3 years ago, quietly, to lay the foundations of a supermodern FTTH project, amongst the first in Europe. Now, Slovenians already have a few thousand operational FTTH installations, with very competitive pricing. For example, a 10/10 mbps connectivity package from T-2, with no transfer limit and no connection charge, is putting Telekom Slovenije into a very precarious position of being a lame duck. With years of development being wasted on non-productive talk of finding a foreign buyer, TS is now pursuing a path, it has never really abandoned - talking about high tech! Telekom Slovenije is a typical state owned firm, still organized in a socialist fashion as it was 30 years ago.</p> True, T-2 has started some 3 years ago, quietly, to lay the foundations of a supermodern FTTH project, amongst the first in Europe. Now, Slovenians already have a few thousand operational FTTH installations, with very competitive pricing. For example, a 10/10 mbps connectivity package from T-2, with no transfer limit and no connection charge, is putting Telekom Slovenije into a very precarious position of being a lame duck. With years of development being wasted on non-productive talk of finding a foreign buyer, TS is now pursuing a path, it has never really abandoned – talking about high tech! Telekom Slovenije is a typical state owned firm, still organized in a socialist fashion as it was 30 years ago.

]]> By: rohit http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-131183 rohit Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:58:02 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-131183 <p>... still no fiber/FTTH in Palo Alto despite Frank (Finisar)'s best efforts years ago. Verizon? AT&T?</p> … still no fiber/FTTH in Palo Alto despite Frank (Finisar)’s best efforts years ago. Verizon? AT&T?

]]> By: Eugene Rudkevich http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-131181 Eugene Rudkevich Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:56:27 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-131181 <p>Daily updates on FTTH developments as they happen at www.ftthblog.com</p> Daily updates on FTTH developments as they happen at http://www.ftthblog.com

]]> By: Alex Goldman http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-131171 Alex Goldman Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:50:10 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-131171 <p>Slovenia, according to The Economist, is the best run of the Balkan states, more like Austria than, say Bulgaria.</p> Slovenia, according to The Economist, is the best run of the Balkan states, more like Austria than, say Bulgaria.

]]> By: Parry http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-130884 Parry Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:23:31 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-130884 <p>Slovenia and other emerging countries (esp. new EU members) are interesting cases - when buying infrastructure (both public and internal business systems) they seem to buy the top shelf systems... because there's few (if any) legacy systems to install. I wouldn't be shocked if in 10-20 years countries like Slovenia, Hungary, Poland, etc. have better tech infrastructures than us here in the UK and you all in America...</p> Slovenia and other emerging countries (esp. new EU members) are interesting cases – when buying infrastructure (both public and internal business systems) they seem to buy the top shelf systems… because there’s few (if any) legacy systems to install. I wouldn’t be shocked if in 10-20 years countries like Slovenia, Hungary, Poland, etc. have better tech infrastructures than us here in the UK and you all in America…

]]> By: DeeJay http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-130713 DeeJay Fri, 01 Jun 2007 12:51:23 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-130713 <p>Congrats to the Slovenians! We at the south want some fiber, too. ;)</p> <p>Greetings from Macedonia!</p> Congrats to the Slovenians! We at the south want some fiber, too. ;)

Greetings from Macedonia!

]]> By: Eideard http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-130562 Eideard Fri, 01 Jun 2007 12:24:06 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-130562 <p>Pity that Americans forget it was Al Tofler who was hired as a consultant to advise the South Korean government - back in the day of the Dae Yung administration - on how to lead their citizens into 21st Century commerce.</p> <p>His answer was FTTH and Broadband. Too bad no one in the USA listened.</p> Pity that Americans forget it was Al Tofler who was hired as a consultant to advise the South Korean government – back in the day of the Dae Yung administration – on how to lead their citizens into 21st Century commerce.

His answer was FTTH and Broadband. Too bad no one in the USA listened.

]]> By: Beans http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-130489 Beans Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:48:09 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-130489 <p>I would like to correct the article. Telekom Slovenije plans to connect 50,000 homes by the end of this year, not as a total. But the initiative didn't come from the Telecom, but rather from the company T-2, which has started building it's own FTTH network a few years back and now covers some of the main cities. Telekom Slovenije is merely giving an answer to its competition.</p> I would like to correct the article. Telekom Slovenije plans to connect 50,000 homes by the end of this year, not as a total. But the initiative didn’t come from the Telecom, but rather from the company T-2, which has started building it’s own FTTH network a few years back and now covers some of the main cities. Telekom Slovenije is merely giving an answer to its competition.

]]> By: Simon Leyland http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-130180 Simon Leyland Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:42:04 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-130180 <p>If I were responsible for running a developing country FTTH would be my number one infrastructure priority. Every economic revolution requires massive improvements in communications. 17th Century had turnpikes, 18th Century had Canals, 19th Railways, 20th the Car and Plane. The 21st will be the internet and any country that can foster and embrace the internet will gain competitive advantage.</p> <p>From a selfish point of view I just hope Europe and specifically the UK understands this.</p> If I were responsible for running a developing country FTTH would be my number one infrastructure priority. Every economic revolution requires massive improvements in communications. 17th Century had turnpikes, 18th Century had Canals, 19th Railways, 20th the Car and Plane. The 21st will be the internet and any country that can foster and embrace the internet will gain competitive advantage.

From a selfish point of view I just hope Europe and specifically the UK understands this.

]]> By: Gregor http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-130176 Gregor Fri, 01 Jun 2007 08:39:20 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/06/01/little-slovenia-part-of-the-big-fiber-dream/#comment-130176 <p>Hi,</p> <p>happy to find out, someone is talking about country from which i came from!</p> <p>But, here is the real deal- the fiber optic progress started like 2 years back from a newly created company called T2 (www.t-2.net), xDSL internet provider also, the cheapest one, also you can get internet from them without any 12months or more contract. No contract at all actually. Now as the T-2 started to get more and more users that went away from our largest ISP called SiOL (100% owner is Telekom Slovenije), Telekom wants to have those and more members back ASAP! T-2 also offered to "mount" fiber cables free of charge to your house if it was next to the largest canal in which they put they cables.</p> <p>Telekom Slovenije owns SiOL. Most citizens in Slovenia know, they're acting monopolystic, they're expensive and don't offer the support they should.</p> <p>Kindly said, i think Fiber cables from Telekom will do more damage to Slovenian internet/fiber optic market as anything else.</p> <p>Thank god for cable ISP's and T-2 who are actually taking lots of new members just because of Telekom's monopolicity.</p> <p>-just my 5 cents of euros from Slovenia ;)</p> Hi,

happy to find out, someone is talking about country from which i came from!

But, here is the real deal- the fiber optic progress started like 2 years back from a newly created company called T2 (www.t-2.net), xDSL internet provider also, the cheapest one, also you can get internet from them without any 12months or more contract. No contract at all actually. Now as the T-2 started to get more and more users that went away from our largest ISP called SiOL (100% owner is Telekom Slovenije), Telekom wants to have those and more members back ASAP! T-2 also offered to “mount” fiber cables free of charge to your house if it was next to the largest canal in which they put they cables.

Telekom Slovenije owns SiOL. Most citizens in Slovenia know, they’re acting monopolystic, they’re expensive and don’t offer the support they should.

Kindly said, i think Fiber cables from Telekom will do more damage to Slovenian internet/fiber optic market as anything else.

Thank god for cable ISP’s and T-2 who are actually taking lots of new members just because of Telekom’s monopolicity.

-just my 5 cents of euros from Slovenia ;)

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