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		<title>By: Money Talks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; No, DRM-Free Music Won&#8217;t Create a New Bonanza</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/22/will-drm-free-tunes-turbocharge-music-sales/#comment-536889</link>
		<dc:creator>Money Talks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; No, DRM-Free Music Won&#8217;t Create a New Bonanza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 17:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Valley raconteur Om Malik is always keeping his eyes peeled for something to surpass Apple&#8217;s killer iPod+iTunes combo, [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Ask Salomon &#187; Blog Archive &#187; No, DRM-Free Music Won&#8217;t Create a New Bonanza</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/22/will-drm-free-tunes-turbocharge-music-sales/#comment-535334</link>
		<dc:creator>Ask Salomon &#187; Blog Archive &#187; No, DRM-Free Music Won&#8217;t Create a New Bonanza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 22:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Valley raconteur Om Malik is always keeping his eyes peeled for something to surpass Apple&#8217;s killer iPod+iTunes combo, [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: GigaOM Apple &#38; The DRM Free Market Madness &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/22/will-drm-free-tunes-turbocharge-music-sales/#comment-468015</link>
		<dc:creator>GigaOM Apple &#38; The DRM Free Market Madness &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] is going to help digital music expand from the iPod generation to the mainstream market,&#8221; says John McFarlane, CEO of Santa Barbara, Calif.-based Sonos [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is going to help digital music expand from the iPod generation to the mainstream market,&#8221; says John McFarlane, CEO of Santa Barbara, Calif.-based Sonos [...]</p>
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		<title>By: DinoHorse</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/22/will-drm-free-tunes-turbocharge-music-sales/#comment-103922</link>
		<dc:creator>DinoHorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 21:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Just put it this way: DRM Free Music is the only way to create loyalty and sales. history proves that no proprietary technology survives  in the long run.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just put it this way: DRM Free Music is the only way to create loyalty and sales. history proves that no proprietary technology survives  in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Cult of Mac &#187; Blog Archive &#187; No, DRM-Free Music Won&#8217;t Spark a New Bonanza</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/22/will-drm-free-tunes-turbocharge-music-sales/#comment-103918</link>
		<dc:creator>Cult of Mac &#187; Blog Archive &#187; No, DRM-Free Music Won&#8217;t Spark a New Bonanza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 06:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Valley raconteur Om Malik is always keeping his eyes peeled for something to surpass Apple&#8217;s killer iPod+iTunes combo, [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: moritz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/22/will-drm-free-tunes-turbocharge-music-sales/#comment-103916</link>
		<dc:creator>moritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 23:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I bought a couple of tracks from iTunes and every time I did, I only did because I could not find the CD at my local store. Everytime I wondered later, why I did not just order the CD.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Count me in the crowd buying much more music on Itunes when DRM free. And you can for sure also count me in the crowd which stops to buy DRMed music on iTunes completely.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a couple of tracks from iTunes and every time I did, I only did because I could not find the CD at my local store. Everytime I wondered later, why I did not just order the CD.</p>
<p>Count me in the crowd buying much more music on Itunes when DRM free. And you can for sure also count me in the crowd which stops to buy DRMed music on iTunes completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Lionel Hutz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/22/will-drm-free-tunes-turbocharge-music-sales/#comment-103920</link>
		<dc:creator>Lionel Hutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 18:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The average consumer really doesn't care.  They would rather watch American Idol then get the new Daughtry/Yamin/McPhee/Clarkson single the easiest way possible.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All of this super anti-DRM talk has really just been fodder for the techies and bloggers (whoa are one in the same).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It's bad for the music business.  It's bad for the artists.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Why don't you journalist folks tell Steve Jobs to play fair with Fairplay?  That would solve 90% of the issues.  But no, most of you guys would rather suckle the teet of Jobs instead of taking him to task for destroying DRM's acceptance.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The European courts knew what they were doing by putting his a$$ to the fire.  Why are you being so nice?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh, I know, because you all use Macs.  Friggin sheep, all of you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The average consumer really doesn&#8217;t care.  They would rather watch American Idol then get the new Daughtry/Yamin/McPhee/Clarkson single the easiest way possible.</p>
<p>All of this super anti-DRM talk has really just been fodder for the techies and bloggers (whoa are one in the same).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s bad for the music business.  It&#8217;s bad for the artists.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you journalist folks tell Steve Jobs to play fair with Fairplay?  That would solve 90% of the issues.  But no, most of you guys would rather suckle the teet of Jobs instead of taking him to task for destroying DRM&#8217;s acceptance.</p>
<p>The European courts knew what they were doing by putting his a$$ to the fire.  Why are you being so nice?</p>
<p>Oh, I know, because you all use Macs.  Friggin sheep, all of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Goas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted Goas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 16:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting comments from "Daniel on May 23rd, 2007 at 5:30 AM". An entire generation has not paid for music and will likely continue to find ways to avoid doing so.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But might the rest of us pay a little extra for DRM free music? (30 cents extra on iTunes, I believe). I don't like being locked down and do my best to strip off DRM from purchased music. I may be willing to purchase DRM free music for slightly more rather than resorting to the gaunlet of P2P networks...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comments from &#8220;Daniel on May 23rd, 2007 at 5:30 AM&#8221;. An entire generation has not paid for music and will likely continue to find ways to avoid doing so.</p>
<p>But might the rest of us pay a little extra for DRM free music? (30 cents extra on iTunes, I believe). I don&#8217;t like being locked down and do my best to strip off DRM from purchased music. I may be willing to purchase DRM free music for slightly more rather than resorting to the gaunlet of P2P networks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Ridlen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/22/will-drm-free-tunes-turbocharge-music-sales/#comment-103914</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Ridlen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 16:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think it's really interesting that you label the non-techie crowd as the ones who don't want to deal with DRM.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From my personal experience, it's the non-techies who buy the DRM-laden music--they don't even know what DRM really is.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As a techie, I can say I don't buy DRM songs. I'd rather buy my music on CD and encode them at the bitrate &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; want in the format &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; want--Not what the record label decides is best for me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s really interesting that you label the non-techie crowd as the ones who don&#8217;t want to deal with DRM.</p>
<p>From my personal experience, it&#8217;s the non-techies who buy the DRM-laden music&#8211;they don&#8217;t even know what DRM really is.</p>
<p>As a techie, I can say I don&#8217;t buy DRM songs. I&#8217;d rather buy my music on CD and encode them at the bitrate <em>I</em> want in the format <em>I</em> want&#8211;Not what the record label decides is best for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/22/will-drm-free-tunes-turbocharge-music-sales/#comment-103910</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It's worth mentioning that Sonos wasn't the first network music player component to have Pandora support--&lt;a href="http://www.slimdevices.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Slim Devices&lt;/a&gt; (now owned by Logitech) has had it on the Squeezebox for over a year now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worth mentioning that Sonos wasn&#8217;t the first network music player component to have Pandora support&#8211;<a href="http://www.slimdevices.com/" rel="nofollow">Slim Devices</a> (now owned by Logitech) has had it on the Squeezebox for over a year now.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/22/will-drm-free-tunes-turbocharge-music-sales/#comment-103908</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 12:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;"What, but music is FREE... it&lt;code&gt;s always been FREE, no one actually pays for music, do they? " That&lt;/code&gt;s my 17 year old cousin talking, that&lt;code&gt;s at least one generation lost, a generation that has NEVER paid for music and NEVER will, I wonder how much longer the music industry will survive, as far as I&lt;/code&gt;m concerned they deserve everything they get.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What, but music is FREE&#8230; it<code>s always been FREE, no one actually pays for music, do they? " That</code>s my 17 year old cousin talking, that<code>s at least one generation lost, a generation that has NEVER paid for music and NEVER will, I wonder how much longer the music industry will survive, as far as I</code>m concerned they deserve everything they get.</p>
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		<title>By: Pandora Everywhere &#171; Tom Conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pandora Everywhere &#171; Tom Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 08:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nick Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/22/will-drm-free-tunes-turbocharge-music-sales/#comment-103905</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 05:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don't know if you're going to see a large jump in music sales. Most of the people I know that buy music off of iTunes would balk at paying more for a song that really has no value add to them. If they're only listening to songs on their iPod or laptop, then they really don't care what format their music is in if it works.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The freedom from DRM in music will never trump the fact that there's a lot of people who will get their music through the wonders of torrents.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You might see a slight bump in sales, but I don't see people getting rich(er) off of this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you&#8217;re going to see a large jump in music sales. Most of the people I know that buy music off of iTunes would balk at paying more for a song that really has no value add to them. If they&#8217;re only listening to songs on their iPod or laptop, then they really don&#8217;t care what format their music is in if it works.</p>
<p>The freedom from DRM in music will never trump the fact that there&#8217;s a lot of people who will get their music through the wonders of torrents.</p>
<p>You might see a slight bump in sales, but I don&#8217;t see people getting rich(er) off of this.</p>
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		<title>By: alan p</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/22/will-drm-free-tunes-turbocharge-music-sales/#comment-103900</link>
		<dc:creator>alan p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 04:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Disagree largely with above....DRM is an attempt to wrest control from assets people have bought and transform them into a rental model.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By and large users don't like rental models, and will avoid / get around / etc. Take it away and you will entice people back.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for MP3 being a lousy format compared to iTunes...we're hardly talking hi fidelity playout devices here in the main!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disagree largely with above&#8230;.DRM is an attempt to wrest control from assets people have bought and transform them into a rental model.</p>
<p>By and large users don&#8217;t like rental models, and will avoid / get around / etc. Take it away and you will entice people back.</p>
<p>As for MP3 being a lousy format compared to iTunes&#8230;we&#8217;re hardly talking hi fidelity playout devices here in the main!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Stamatiou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Stamatiou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 04:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sonos actually gave me a loaner system to review last month and I can tell you I now have a great appreciation for subscription music services like Rhapsody/Pandora. They're so powerful - literally any song you want at your fingertips.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I talk about Rhapsody a bit more indepth here:
http://paulstamatiou.com/2007/05/07/review-sonos-digital-music-system/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At the moment though, I am playing with a loaner Squeezebox and it's almost as potent as the Sonos because it also supports Rhapsody/Pandora. These music services are the "killer apps" of new music devices.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonos actually gave me a loaner system to review last month and I can tell you I now have a great appreciation for subscription music services like Rhapsody/Pandora. They&#8217;re so powerful - literally any song you want at your fingertips.</p>
<p>I talk about Rhapsody a bit more indepth here:<br />
 (<a href="http://paulstamatiou.com/2007/05/07/review-sonos-digital-music-system/" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
<p>At the moment though, I am playing with a loaner Squeezebox and it&#8217;s almost as potent as the Sonos because it also supports Rhapsody/Pandora. These music services are the &#8220;killer apps&#8221; of new music devices.</p>
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		<title>By: Lionel Hutz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/22/will-drm-free-tunes-turbocharge-music-sales/#comment-103903</link>
		<dc:creator>Lionel Hutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 04:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Making DRM free music available will show no significant increase in music sales past the standard percentages we have been seeing lately.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The average person who buys music will still get it from ITunes in whatever format their favorite song comes in.  If AAC is cheaper then that's what they will go with.  If they want a higher quality then they will pay for it even if it comes wrapped in Fairplay.  MP3 as a format sucks and people will care more about that than if they can play their songs on 8 players and 4 extra computers they don't have.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All of the talk that DRM free music "will create thousands of stores to sell the music so digital music" Sure, labels taking DRM requirements off of music will give a lot of stores the opportunity to sell music but it doesn't mean people are going to leave ITunes to go buy from all these new stores.  They wont.  At least not in any numbers that matters.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Include the fact that the labels are still charging highway robbery licensing/advance fees (Million$) to enable a store to sell their music and you have an automatically crippled digital retail marketplace.  Big stores like Amazon will come into the marketplace and add nothing new that would make people leave ITunes.   The innovative stores will never get a chance to flourish thanks to those fees.  If you think about it the slim margins of selling music a'la carte  makes it unappealing to anyone that can't sell it as a loss leader.  Outside of Apple only subscription services can thrive under these conditions if you are a pure music play.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The only stores we will see significant sales from over the next few years will be Sprint's, Verizon's, T-Mobile's and AT&#38;T's on deck mobile music stores... oh and of course ITunes.  I bet all of them will use DRM for the mobile sales.  If they don't people will be bluetoothing &#38; MMS'ing tracks to each other like crazy.  It will make Bittorrent look like child's play.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for being so shortsighted EMI.  Did the fee Amazon and the other fools pay you pad your bottom line enough to make it worth killing your industry?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making DRM free music available will show no significant increase in music sales past the standard percentages we have been seeing lately.</p>
<p>The average person who buys music will still get it from ITunes in whatever format their favorite song comes in.  If AAC is cheaper then that&#8217;s what they will go with.  If they want a higher quality then they will pay for it even if it comes wrapped in Fairplay.  MP3 as a format sucks and people will care more about that than if they can play their songs on 8 players and 4 extra computers they don&#8217;t have.</p>
<p>All of the talk that DRM free music &#8220;will create thousands of stores to sell the music so digital music&#8221; Sure, labels taking DRM requirements off of music will give a lot of stores the opportunity to sell music but it doesn&#8217;t mean people are going to leave ITunes to go buy from all these new stores.  They wont.  At least not in any numbers that matters.</p>
<p>Include the fact that the labels are still charging highway robbery licensing/advance fees (Million$) to enable a store to sell their music and you have an automatically crippled digital retail marketplace.  Big stores like Amazon will come into the marketplace and add nothing new that would make people leave ITunes.   The innovative stores will never get a chance to flourish thanks to those fees.  If you think about it the slim margins of selling music a&#8217;la carte  makes it unappealing to anyone that can&#8217;t sell it as a loss leader.  Outside of Apple only subscription services can thrive under these conditions if you are a pure music play.</p>
<p>The only stores we will see significant sales from over the next few years will be Sprint&#8217;s, Verizon&#8217;s, T-Mobile&#8217;s and AT&amp;T&#8217;s on deck mobile music stores&#8230; oh and of course ITunes.  I bet all of them will use DRM for the mobile sales.  If they don&#8217;t people will be bluetoothing &amp; MMS&#8217;ing tracks to each other like crazy.  It will make Bittorrent look like child&#8217;s play.</p>
<p>Thanks for being so shortsighted EMI.  Did the fee Amazon and the other fools pay you pad your bottom line enough to make it worth killing your industry?</p>
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