Comments on: Cisco’s Chambers is born again Web 2.0 http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:58:59 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Cerise Audley http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-983236 Cerise Audley Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:46:50 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-983236 <p>looks like Craig Tobias has left Cisco to start his own Web 2.0 company. http://www.wiikno.com</p> looks like Craig Tobias has left Cisco to start his own Web 2.0 company. http://www.wiikno.com

]]> By: Cerise Audley http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-883347 Cerise Audley Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:10:31 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-883347 <p>Yes, one of the purposes of this wiki is to resolve the release notes issue.</p> Yes, one of the purposes of this wiki is to resolve the release notes issue.

]]> By: Paul Hendrix http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-878091 Paul Hendrix Tue, 13 May 2008 07:12:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-878091 <p>I always had a hard time following Cisco's documents with all the release notes, hopefully this will end all that now the documents are moving to a wiki.</p> <p>The wiki looks very nice. One of the best I've seen so far.</p> I always had a hard time following Cisco’s documents with all the release notes, hopefully this will end all that now the documents are moving to a wiki.

The wiki looks very nice. One of the best I’ve seen so far.

]]> By: Mike Abott http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-877928 Mike Abott Mon, 12 May 2008 07:26:28 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-877928 <p>Wow!! Cisco's moving didn't documents to a wiki. This is bold even for Cisco. Nice!!</p> Wow!! Cisco’s moving didn’t documents to a wiki. This is bold even for Cisco. Nice!!

]]> By: Cerise Audley http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-871824 Cerise Audley Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:09:45 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-871824 <p>I recently heard Craig Tobias from Cisco speak at a conference. He has been responsible for driving the entire ROS division (massive network operations) to a Web 2.0 shop. Every aspect of the business in run using Web 2.0.</p> I recently heard Craig Tobias from Cisco speak at a conference. He has been responsible for driving the entire ROS division (massive network operations) to a Web 2.0 shop. Every aspect of the business in run using Web 2.0.

]]> By: Jessica Clark http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-870232 Jessica Clark Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:18:39 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-870232 <p>Cisco does seem to have a secret weapon, his name is Craig Tobias. He has been responsible for developing a number of Web 2.0 applications used to run Cisco internally and has recently turned to building Cisco's external wiki platform.</p> <p>http://supportwiki.cisco.com</p> Cisco does seem to have a secret weapon, his name is Craig Tobias. He has been responsible for developing a number of Web 2.0 applications used to run Cisco internally and has recently turned to building Cisco’s external wiki platform.

http://supportwiki.cisco.com

]]> By: Simon Leyland http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100871 Simon Leyland Wed, 09 May 2007 22:50:55 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100871 <p>I also think the webex purchase was a bad move, for much less money they could have tied up some really good software and people. Dabbledb/37 signals spring to mind straight away, i'm sure we can all think of many more.</p> <p>Also even if they did get all the right software I'm not sure they could integrate into a single box. I wonder how 5 across integration is going?</p> <p>Cisco do know though that if they stay only in the router/switch market their margins will eventually erode to nothing due to competition from abroad and possibly open source alternatives.</p> I also think the webex purchase was a bad move, for much less money they could have tied up some really good software and people. Dabbledb/37 signals spring to mind straight away, i’m sure we can all think of many more.

Also even if they did get all the right software I’m not sure they could integrate into a single box. I wonder how 5 across integration is going?

Cisco do know though that if they stay only in the router/switch market their margins will eventually erode to nothing due to competition from abroad and possibly open source alternatives.

]]> By: anonymous http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100869 anonymous Wed, 09 May 2007 22:21:58 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100869 <p>Web 2.0 for Cisco means selling more boxes.</p> <p>Web 2.0 is really these hundreds of software innovating companies which are in this second phase of Internet - friendster, myspace, jajah, jaxtr and others. And also the SaaS based companies.</p> <p>All these companies need routers, switches and softswitches. Thats what Cisco will sell.</p> <p>To summarize: Cisco buys companies and technologies by selling routers/switches (the funding engine)</p> Web 2.0 for Cisco means selling more boxes.

Web 2.0 is really these hundreds of software innovating companies which are in this second phase of Internet – friendster, myspace, jajah, jaxtr and others. And also the SaaS based companies.

All these companies need routers, switches and softswitches. Thats what Cisco will sell.

To summarize: Cisco buys companies and technologies by selling routers/switches (the funding engine)

]]> By: alan p http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100865 alan p Wed, 09 May 2007 20:08:18 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100865 <p>First the recognition, then the acquisitions - another buyer heaves into sight ;)</p> First the recognition, then the acquisitions - another buyer heaves into sight ;)

]]> By: Jesse Kopelman http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100867 Jesse Kopelman Wed, 09 May 2007 19:55:30 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100867 <p>The shark has been jumped . . . I demand partial credit for pier-to-pier. I typed it by accident in a blog posting (on the now defunct Corante Moore's Lore) 3 years ago.</p> The shark has been jumped . . . I demand partial credit for pier-to-pier. I typed it by accident in a blog posting (on the now defunct Corante Moore’s Lore) 3 years ago.

]]> By: Rajeev http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100863 Rajeev Wed, 09 May 2007 18:48:34 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100863 <p>Let us all define what - web 2.0 - really is? - What is "Web 2.0"? - What makes a company Web 2.0? Is it Ajax pages, is social network a necessary component of it? (if so would craigslist be a web 2.0 company?). is it the sheer volume of users? (if so would statcounter be a web 2.0 company?</p> <p>Oh, the guardians of the technology elixir..Enlighten this soul please.</p> Let us all define what – web 2.0 – really is? - What is “Web 2.0″? - What makes a company Web 2.0? Is it Ajax pages, is social network a necessary component of it? (if so would craigslist be a web 2.0 company?). is it the sheer volume of users? (if so would statcounter be a web 2.0 company?

Oh, the guardians of the technology elixir..Enlighten this soul please.

]]> By: David http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100861 David Wed, 09 May 2007 17:49:09 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100861 <p>The guy sells networking equipment for a living. Obviously he's going to talk up any activity that requires more bandwidth.</p> The guy sells networking equipment for a living. Obviously he’s going to talk up any activity that requires more bandwidth.

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100866 Om Malik Wed, 09 May 2007 14:24:56 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100866 <p>Simon</p> <p>That is true - maybe saying Web 2.0 is very easy compared to collaboration. Because if they were talking about WebEX, it was an old school product, with none of these geegaws.</p> <p>I think they need to seriously outline what they plan to do - it is frustration to hear calls with non-specific information.</p> Simon

That is true – maybe saying Web 2.0 is very easy compared to collaboration. Because if they were talking about WebEX, it was an old school product, with none of these geegaws.

I think they need to seriously outline what they plan to do – it is frustration to hear calls with non-specific information.

]]> By: Simon Leyland http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100859 Simon Leyland Wed, 09 May 2007 09:56:25 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100859 <p>I think Cisco are close to understanding web2.0. For all the hype there has virtually been no web2.0 penetration in the large enterprise. I'm sure fortune 500 want the technology but they want it delivered by a large vendor. I think Cisco have their Call Manager product identified as the web/enterprise2.0 box.</p> <p>Cisco won the router race with their IOS software, can they win the Enterprise2.0 race by expanding their CCM software into an all in one box?</p> I think Cisco are close to understanding web2.0. For all the hype there has virtually been no web2.0 penetration in the large enterprise. I’m sure fortune 500 want the technology but they want it delivered by a large vendor. I think Cisco have their Call Manager product identified as the web/enterprise2.0 box.

Cisco won the router race with their IOS software, can they win the Enterprise2.0 race by expanding their CCM software into an all in one box?

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100854 Om Malik Wed, 09 May 2007 06:01:24 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100854 <p>oh that is good ... joost!</p> oh that is good … joost!

]]> By: Nick Hawkins http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100855 Nick Hawkins Wed, 09 May 2007 05:53:28 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-100855 <p>I still can't believe that they paid that much for WebEx</p> I still can’t believe that they paid that much for WebEx

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