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	<title>Comments on: Cisco&#8217;s Chambers is born again Web 2.0</title>
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		<title>By: Cerise Audley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170029</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cerise Audley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[looks like Craig Tobias has left Cisco to start his own Web 2.0 company.   http://www.wiikno.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like Craig Tobias has left Cisco to start his own Web 2.0 company.   <a href="http://www.wiikno.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wiikno.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cerise Audley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170028</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cerise Audley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 06:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, one of the purposes of this wiki is to resolve the release notes issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, one of the purposes of this wiki is to resolve the release notes issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hendrix</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170027</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Hendrix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 07:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always had a hard time following Cisco&#039;s documents with all the release notes, hopefully this will end all that now the documents are moving to a wiki.

The wiki looks very nice.  One of the best I&#039;ve seen so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always had a hard time following Cisco&#8217;s documents with all the release notes, hopefully this will end all that now the documents are moving to a wiki.</p>
<p>The wiki looks very nice.  One of the best I&#8217;ve seen so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Abott</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170026</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Abott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 07:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow!! Cisco&#039;s moving didn&#039;t documents to a wiki.  This is bold even for Cisco.  Nice!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!! Cisco&#8217;s moving didn&#8217;t documents to a wiki.  This is bold even for Cisco.  Nice!!</p>
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		<title>By: Cerise Audley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170025</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cerise Audley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I recently heard Craig Tobias from Cisco speak at a conference.  He has been responsible for driving the entire ROS division (massive network operations) to a Web 2.0 shop.  Every aspect of the business in run using Web 2.0.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently heard Craig Tobias from Cisco speak at a conference.  He has been responsible for driving the entire ROS division (massive network operations) to a Web 2.0 shop.  Every aspect of the business in run using Web 2.0.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica Clark</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170024</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jessica Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Cisco does seem to have a secret weapon, his name is Craig Tobias.  He has been responsible for developing a number of Web 2.0 applications used to run Cisco internally and has recently turned to building Cisco&#039;s external wiki platform.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://supportwiki.cisco.com&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cisco does seem to have a secret weapon, his name is Craig Tobias.  He has been responsible for developing a number of Web 2.0 applications used to run Cisco internally and has recently turned to building Cisco&#8217;s external wiki platform.</p>
<p><a href="http://supportwiki.cisco.com" rel="nofollow">http://supportwiki.cisco.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Simon Leyland</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170023</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Leyland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 22:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I also think the webex purchase was a bad move, for much less money they could have tied up some really good software and people.  Dabbledb/37 signals spring to mind straight away, i&#039;m sure we can all think of many more.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also even if they did get all the right software I&#039;m not sure they could integrate into a single box.  I wonder how 5 across integration is going?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cisco do know though that if they stay only in the router/switch market their margins will eventually erode to nothing due to competition from abroad and possibly open source alternatives.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think the webex purchase was a bad move, for much less money they could have tied up some really good software and people.  Dabbledb/37 signals spring to mind straight away, i&#8217;m sure we can all think of many more.</p>
<p>Also even if they did get all the right software I&#8217;m not sure they could integrate into a single box.  I wonder how 5 across integration is going?</p>
<p>Cisco do know though that if they stay only in the router/switch market their margins will eventually erode to nothing due to competition from abroad and possibly open source alternatives.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170022</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 22:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Web 2.0 for Cisco means selling more boxes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Web 2.0 is really these hundreds of software innovating companies which are in this second phase of Internet - friendster, myspace, jajah, jaxtr and others. And also the SaaS based companies.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All these companies need routers, switches and softswitches. Thats what Cisco will sell.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To summarize:
Cisco buys companies and technologies by selling routers/switches (the funding engine)&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Web 2.0 for Cisco means selling more boxes.</p>
<p>Web 2.0 is really these hundreds of software innovating companies which are in this second phase of Internet &#8211; friendster, myspace, jajah, jaxtr and others. And also the SaaS based companies.</p>
<p>All these companies need routers, switches and softswitches. Thats what Cisco will sell.</p>
<p>To summarize:<br />
Cisco buys companies and technologies by selling routers/switches (the funding engine)</p>
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		<title>By: alan p</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170019</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alan p]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 20:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;First the recognition, then the acquisitions -
another buyer heaves into sight ;)&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First the recognition, then the acquisitions -<br />
another buyer heaves into sight ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170021</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse Kopelman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 19:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The shark has been jumped . . . I demand partial credit for pier-to-pier. I typed it by accident in a blog posting (on the now defunct Corante Moore&#039;s Lore) 3 years ago.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shark has been jumped . . . I demand partial credit for pier-to-pier. I typed it by accident in a blog posting (on the now defunct Corante Moore&#8217;s Lore) 3 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Rajeev</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170018</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rajeev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 18:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Let us all define what - web 2.0 - really is?
- What is &quot;Web 2.0&quot;?
- What makes a company Web 2.0? Is it Ajax pages, is social network a necessary component of it? (if so would craigslist be a web 2.0 company?). is it the sheer volume of users? (if so would statcounter be a web 2.0 company?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh, the guardians of the technology elixir..Enlighten this soul please.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us all define what &#8211; web 2.0 &#8211; really is?<br />
- What is &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243;?<br />
- What makes a company Web 2.0? Is it Ajax pages, is social network a necessary component of it? (if so would craigslist be a web 2.0 company?). is it the sheer volume of users? (if so would statcounter be a web 2.0 company?</p>
<p>Oh, the guardians of the technology elixir..Enlighten this soul please.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170017</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 17:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The guy sells networking equipment for a living. Obviously he&#039;s going to talk up any activity that requires more bandwidth.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guy sells networking equipment for a living. Obviously he&#8217;s going to talk up any activity that requires more bandwidth.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170020</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 14:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Simon&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That is true - maybe saying Web 2.0 is very easy compared to collaboration. Because if they were talking about WebEX, it was an old school product, with none of these geegaws.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think they need to seriously outline what they plan to do - it is frustration to hear calls with non-specific information.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon</p>
<p>That is true &#8211; maybe saying Web 2.0 is very easy compared to collaboration. Because if they were talking about WebEX, it was an old school product, with none of these geegaws.</p>
<p>I think they need to seriously outline what they plan to do &#8211; it is frustration to hear calls with non-specific information.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Leyland</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170016</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Leyland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 09:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I think Cisco are close to understanding web2.0.  For all the hype there has virtually been no web2.0 penetration in the large enterprise.  I&#039;m sure fortune 500 want the technology but they want it delivered by a large vendor.  I think Cisco have their Call Manager product identified as the web/enterprise2.0 box.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cisco won the router race with their IOS software, can they win the Enterprise2.0 race by expanding their CCM software into an all in one box?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Cisco are close to understanding web2.0.  For all the hype there has virtually been no web2.0 penetration in the large enterprise.  I&#8217;m sure fortune 500 want the technology but they want it delivered by a large vendor.  I think Cisco have their Call Manager product identified as the web/enterprise2.0 box.</p>
<p>Cisco won the router race with their IOS software, can they win the Enterprise2.0 race by expanding their CCM software into an all in one box?</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170013</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 06:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;oh that is good ... joost!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh that is good &#8230; joost!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/08/ciscos-chambers-is-born-again-web-20/#comment-170014</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Hawkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 05:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I still can&#039;t believe that they paid that much for WebEx&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still can&#8217;t believe that they paid that much for WebEx</p>
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