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		<title>By: Nikools</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99768</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikools</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 07:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pfft.. Digg is overrated, there are an infinite number of sites that can fill its shoes frack.it, reddit, netscape...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pfft.. Digg is overrated, there are an infinite number of sites that can fill its shoes frack.it, reddit, netscape&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Wai Yip Tung</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99766</link>
		<dc:creator>Wai Yip Tung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 21:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sounds like the big loser is MPAA. Their hardball tactics totally back fires and the encryption key is so widely known that it is now impossible to censor.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the big loser is MPAA. Their hardball tactics totally back fires and the encryption key is so widely known that it is now impossible to censor.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Blackblade</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99764</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackblade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 08:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The question of legality is, however, very difficult because, frequently, the law in question was developed for print and broadcast media.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Web 2.0 applications permit use of media and interaction with it which were never considered when the IP laws were drafted.  Hence, now, there are many difficult areas that go right to the core of the issue.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Is Digg a publisher or a technology service which permits others to publish ?  Quite hard to answer that one and it&#039;s fundamental .&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hence, to answer Random Thouoghts&#039; question ... do new businesses consider legality ... of course we do.  However, speaking personally, I can assure you that the legal advice we receive is very confusing and confused because even the advisors can see multiple approaches.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Matt.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question of legality is, however, very difficult because, frequently, the law in question was developed for print and broadcast media.</p>

<p>Web 2.0 applications permit use of media and interaction with it which were never considered when the IP laws were drafted.  Hence, now, there are many difficult areas that go right to the core of the issue.</p>

<p>Is Digg a publisher or a technology service which permits others to publish ?  Quite hard to answer that one and it&#8217;s fundamental .</p>

<p>Hence, to answer Random Thouoghts&#8217; question &#8230; do new businesses consider legality &#8230; of course we do.  However, speaking personally, I can assure you that the legal advice we receive is very confusing and confused because even the advisors can see multiple approaches.</p>

<p>Matt.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Herb Kornfeld</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99706</link>
		<dc:creator>Herb Kornfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 04:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Digg was clearly brought down by a very powerful minority and not by a majority of its fan base.  Digg will die because stunts like this have demonstrated Digg&#039;s lack of credibility&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digg was clearly brought down by a very powerful minority and not by a majority of its fan base.  Digg will die because stunts like this have demonstrated Digg&#8217;s lack of credibility</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RandomThoughts</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99723</link>
		<dc:creator>RandomThoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 20:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Daniel, I agree, but when dreaming up a business, I hope the talk of &quot;is it actually legal&quot; doesn&#039;t take all that much thought.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Then again, if you go close to the edge, maybe there is more profit if it works.  We know the guys on Wall Street think that way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe playing it safe is too easy (and unprofitable)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, I agree, but when dreaming up a business, I hope the talk of &#8220;is it actually legal&#8221; doesn&#8217;t take all that much thought.</p>

<p>Then again, if you go close to the edge, maybe there is more profit if it works.  We know the guys on Wall Street think that way.</p>

<p>Maybe playing it safe is too easy (and unprofitable)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99742</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 19:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Random Thoughts, I think that sticking the label of &quot;illegal activity&quot; to Digg in particular, and to all user generated content sites, is superfluous. Any business is subject of legal suit risk, some to lesser extent, some to larger. The larger the business, the larger risk of suit. It&#039;s not black and white, it&#039;s fuzzy.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random Thoughts, I think that sticking the label of &#8220;illegal activity&#8221; to Digg in particular, and to all user generated content sites, is superfluous. Any business is subject of legal suit risk, some to lesser extent, some to larger. The larger the business, the larger risk of suit. It&#8217;s not black and white, it&#8217;s fuzzy.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Clay Cook</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99737</link>
		<dc:creator>Clay Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 19:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This has created so much publicity for Digg that their traffic will rise to a new level.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has created so much publicity for Digg that their traffic will rise to a new level.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nick Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99747</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 19:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Between digg&#039;s bury brigades and the spam that shows up there, it&#039;s useless to me as a news aggregate. So, screw &#039;em.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between digg&#8217;s bury brigades and the spam that shows up there, it&#8217;s useless to me as a news aggregate. So, screw &#8216;em.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ferhat Savci</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99758</link>
		<dc:creator>Ferhat Savci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 19:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m a computer scientist specializing in DRM  and legalese comes with the job.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Publishing a trade-secret is illegal, but only the source is responsible. Follow on...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The concept of a copyright exists for material published or meant to be published; trade-secrets are, by definition, not meant to be published: once they are out, they are out and are not protected by a copyright. If found, the parties responsible for making the secret public can be successfully sued, but not the publisher.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Digg can&#039;t be sued or even taken to court for linking to a published (or even publishing) a trade-secret. They certainly acted rashly and probably without consulting their legal position. They probably got courageous about going to court and &quot;dying trying&quot; after a consult, but it was too late.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The party that discovered the trade-secret and made it public may rot in jail, if caught.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a computer scientist specializing in DRM  and legalese comes with the job.</p>

<p>Publishing a trade-secret is illegal, but only the source is responsible. Follow on&#8230;</p>

<p>The concept of a copyright exists for material published or meant to be published; trade-secrets are, by definition, not meant to be published: once they are out, they are out and are not protected by a copyright. If found, the parties responsible for making the secret public can be successfully sued, but not the publisher.</p>

<p>Digg can&#8217;t be sued or even taken to court for linking to a published (or even publishing) a trade-secret. They certainly acted rashly and probably without consulting their legal position. They probably got courageous about going to court and &#8220;dying trying&#8221; after a consult, but it was too late.</p>

<p>The party that discovered the trade-secret and made it public may rot in jail, if caught.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RandomThoughts</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99720</link>
		<dc:creator>RandomThoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 18:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Daniel, how can you build a business model on a business that is breaking the law?  If there are enough grounds on Diggs pages for the MPAA to sue, how can advertisers or investors work with Digg?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The interesting thing with the Viacom/YouTube suit is that everyone thought the only thing protecting YouTube was the fact they didn&#039;t have any money, because they knew they would get sued.  Once deep pockets (Google) stepped in that changed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I would say that if YouTube were to lose to Viacom then all sites with business models built around questionable legal activities will really take a hit, because investors will stay away.  Course, one would think that Google did some legal due diligence here.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, how can you build a business model on a business that is breaking the law?  If there are enough grounds on Diggs pages for the MPAA to sue, how can advertisers or investors work with Digg?</p>

<p>The interesting thing with the Viacom/YouTube suit is that everyone thought the only thing protecting YouTube was the fact they didn&#8217;t have any money, because they knew they would get sued.  Once deep pockets (Google) stepped in that changed.</p>

<p>I would say that if YouTube were to lose to Viacom then all sites with business models built around questionable legal activities will really take a hit, because investors will stay away.  Course, one would think that Google did some legal due diligence here.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99726</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 18:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think that Digg&#039;s handling of situation has been the only proper way. They demonstraded goodwill in deleting link. They took user&#039;s opinion and restored site back to normality. They got huge publicity and established precedent that will be quoted for years to come.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Risk of legal suit is part of Digg&#039;s line of business - when you deal with UGC, that should be expected. I&#039;m sure that if MPAA will decide to sue Digg, they will find enough grounds on digg&#039;s pages.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Digg&#8217;s handling of situation has been the only proper way. They demonstraded goodwill in deleting link. They took user&#8217;s opinion and restored site back to normality. They got huge publicity and established precedent that will be quoted for years to come.</p>

<p>Risk of legal suit is part of Digg&#8217;s line of business &#8211; when you deal with UGC, that should be expected. I&#8217;m sure that if MPAA will decide to sue Digg, they will find enough grounds on digg&#8217;s pages.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99729</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 18:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@RandomThoughts&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Actually sir, I and all the other Digg users  combined DID in fact &quot;bring Digg into this world&quot; as we are the content creators. Mr. Rose and company are all multi-millionaires now, solely because of our labor.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Digg does not ask for personal information, nor does YouTube. My email address is readily available on both my Digg and YouTube user pages.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I welcome any attempt by the MPAA, DMCA and the RIAA to sue me for typing my opinion into the comment section of Digg.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s is a recent legal precedent for you to consider:
http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/01/29/apple.pays.legal.fees/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RandomThoughts</p>

<p>Actually sir, I and all the other Digg users  combined DID in fact &#8220;bring Digg into this world&#8221; as we are the content creators. Mr. Rose and company are all multi-millionaires now, solely because of our labor.</p>

<p>Digg does not ask for personal information, nor does YouTube. My email address is readily available on both my Digg and YouTube user pages.</p>

<p>I welcome any attempt by the MPAA, DMCA and the RIAA to sue me for typing my opinion into the comment section of Digg.</p>

<p>Here&#8217;s is a recent legal precedent for you to consider:
<a href="http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/01/29/apple.pays.legal.fees/" rel="nofollow">http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/01/29/apple.pays.legal.fees/</a></p>

<p>Thank you.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RandomThoughts</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99717</link>
		<dc:creator>RandomThoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 17:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Todd, you didn&#039;t bring Digg to life, someone else did.  I know the users are the power behind the site, but you are asking Digg to bear responsibility for possible illegal activity.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Would you do that?  Would you be ok with Digg turning over your personal information to someone with a court order?  Would you be willing to face a jury over your account?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If not, you just don&#039;t want to be responsible for your actions and in fact want others to be.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todd, you didn&#8217;t bring Digg to life, someone else did.  I know the users are the power behind the site, but you are asking Digg to bear responsibility for possible illegal activity.</p>

<p>Would you do that?  Would you be ok with Digg turning over your personal information to someone with a court order?  Would you be willing to face a jury over your account?</p>

<p>If not, you just don&#8217;t want to be responsible for your actions and in fact want others to be.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jay (living in First Life)</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99745</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay (living in First Life)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 15:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Digg will slowly die.  It&#039;s a good concept but poorly executed.  It&#039;s dominated by a couple of insanely unbusy people.  Digg is certainly dumb, soon it will be dead too (or maybe a foolish big company will buy it).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Digg will slowly die.  It&#8217;s a good concept but poorly executed.  It&#8217;s dominated by a couple of insanely unbusy people.  Digg is certainly dumb, soon it will be dead too (or maybe a foolish big company will buy it).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99752</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 15:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is it legally liable for the actions of its community which was initially pointing to a story published by an independent publications?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PH: Probably. So it&#039;s better to edit and apologize than it is to ignore and spend the day in court.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If that is the case, then YouTube-Viacom drama becomes even more intriguing.
If not, then did Digg act rashly?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PH: It&#039;s their site. They can choose what they want to post and what they want to avoid. You get what you pay for.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can Digg recover from this set back?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PH: Who cares? Does anyone get their news from Digg?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it legally liable for the actions of its community which was initially pointing to a story published by an independent publications?</p>

<p>PH: Probably. So it&#8217;s better to edit and apologize than it is to ignore and spend the day in court.</p>

<p>If that is the case, then YouTube-Viacom drama becomes even more intriguing.
If not, then did Digg act rashly?</p>

<p>PH: It&#8217;s their site. They can choose what they want to post and what they want to avoid. You get what you pay for.</p>

<p>Can Digg recover from this set back?</p>

<p>PH: Who cares? Does anyone get their news from Digg?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: David Jackson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/05/01/a-very-angry-digg-nation/#comment-99735</link>
		<dc:creator>David Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 15:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The answer to 1 (by a leading intellectual property lawyer):&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://internet.seekingalpha.com/article/29579&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer to 1 (by a leading intellectual property lawyer):</p>

<p><a href="http://internet.seekingalpha.com/article/29579" rel="nofollow">http://internet.seekingalpha.com/article/29579</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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