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	<title>Comments on: WSJ censoring Vonage&#8217;s Ads?</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Kapustka</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/27/wsj-censoring-vonages-ads/#comment-169058</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Kapustka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 20:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Update: WSJ ad dept. representatives are saying they cannot or will not comment on the Vonage ad.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: WSJ ad dept. representatives are saying they cannot or will not comment on the Vonage ad.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/27/wsj-censoring-vonages-ads/#comment-169057</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 16:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;yes betsy, you can&#039;t succeed on marketing alone, you also need a mediocre product to lavish your marketing wizardry on.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;vonage is the AOL of VOIP.  like AOL, it&#039;s over priced, needlessly proprietary, and marketed towards people who don&#039;t know any better.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;like AOL, it&#039;s their marketing blitzes that put them on top in the VOIP market.  it makes sense that they would use ads as weapons against verizon.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;it sucks that vonage is getting patent trolled by verizon and it reflects many of the problems with the patent system and the  telecommunications industry.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;vonage vs verizon really is a david and goliath struggle, but vonage does a few &quot;evil corporation&quot; things that all corporations do.  they copy ideas from their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.voicestick.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;competitors&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://forum.sipphone.com/viewtopic.php?start=30&amp;t=348&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;deny access&lt;/a&gt; to their networks to lock out competition just like verizon does.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes betsy, you can&#8217;t succeed on marketing alone, you also need a mediocre product to lavish your marketing wizardry on.</p>
<p>vonage is the AOL of VOIP.  like AOL, it&#8217;s over priced, needlessly proprietary, and marketed towards people who don&#8217;t know any better.</p>
<p>like AOL, it&#8217;s their marketing blitzes that put them on top in the VOIP market.  it makes sense that they would use ads as weapons against verizon.</p>
<p>it sucks that vonage is getting patent trolled by verizon and it reflects many of the problems with the patent system and the  telecommunications industry.</p>
<p>vonage vs verizon really is a david and goliath struggle, but vonage does a few &#8220;evil corporation&#8221; things that all corporations do.  they copy ideas from their <a href="http://www.voicestick.com" rel="nofollow">competitors</a> and <a href="http://forum.sipphone.com/viewtopic.php?start=30&amp;t=348" rel="nofollow">deny access</a> to their networks to lock out competition just like verizon does.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/27/wsj-censoring-vonages-ads/#comment-169056</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Betsy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 12:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;First off, I didn&#039;t know Verizon invented VoIP, in fact, they didn&#039;t. secondly, I don&#039;t see them going after other VoIP player. and chris, you don&#039;t become the top dog by being marketing wizards alone&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, I didn&#8217;t know Verizon invented VoIP, in fact, they didn&#8217;t. secondly, I don&#8217;t see them going after other VoIP player. and chris, you don&#8217;t become the top dog by being marketing wizards alone</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/27/wsj-censoring-vonages-ads/#comment-169054</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;it&#039;s called the streisand effect.  someone does something that you don&#039;t like.  you make a stink about it in an effort to stop it.  the stink you raise attracts more attention to the  wrong doing, than the wrong doing itself would have done.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;barbara streisand sued someone over aerial photos of her house and the photos ended up everywhere as a result.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i&#039;ll bet money that vonage submitted the ad, was told to remove the offending sentence, and did so, willingly, knowing full well that this would be the result.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;vonage isn&#039;t the best VOIP service out there.  it&#039;s not the cheapest and certainly isn&#039;t the most reliable.  hell, you can&#039;t get a local phone number in a number of markets.  they are marketing wizards, that&#039;s why they were the top dogs.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s called the streisand effect.  someone does something that you don&#8217;t like.  you make a stink about it in an effort to stop it.  the stink you raise attracts more attention to the  wrong doing, than the wrong doing itself would have done.</p>
<p>barbara streisand sued someone over aerial photos of her house and the photos ended up everywhere as a result.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ll bet money that vonage submitted the ad, was told to remove the offending sentence, and did so, willingly, knowing full well that this would be the result.</p>
<p>vonage isn&#8217;t the best VOIP service out there.  it&#8217;s not the cheapest and certainly isn&#8217;t the most reliable.  hell, you can&#8217;t get a local phone number in a number of markets.  they are marketing wizards, that&#8217;s why they were the top dogs.</p>
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		<title>By: RandomThoughts</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/27/wsj-censoring-vonages-ads/#comment-169052</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RandomThoughts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 13:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;It is pretty bush league, but Vonage is the one who chose to black pen edit the ad, not the Wall Street Journal (at least thats what I got from the article)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thats actually pretty good by Vonage, as they had to know that by doing that instead of revising the ad, they would get more publicity.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course its all about the money, does anyone think its about anything else?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is pretty bush league, but Vonage is the one who chose to black pen edit the ad, not the Wall Street Journal (at least thats what I got from the article)</p>
<p>Thats actually pretty good by Vonage, as they had to know that by doing that instead of revising the ad, they would get more publicity.</p>
<p>Of course its all about the money, does anyone think its about anything else?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kapustka</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/27/wsj-censoring-vonages-ads/#comment-169053</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Kapustka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 04:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;No updates yet. WSJ ad rep did respond (said they weren&#039;t the people responsible for print ads but would do their best to get us in touch with the right people Monday; so perhaps more then).&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No updates yet. WSJ ad rep did respond (said they weren&#8217;t the people responsible for print ads but would do their best to get us in touch with the right people Monday; so perhaps more then).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/27/wsj-censoring-vonages-ads/#comment-169055</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 04:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Any updates?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any updates?</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Blake</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/27/wsj-censoring-vonages-ads/#comment-169051</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victor Blake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Patent reform is long overdue. Fujitsu and Nortel have both claimed that they invented Ethernet in the past as well ... yeah!! OK ... Write your congressional rep. about patent reform ...&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patent reform is long overdue. Fujitsu and Nortel have both claimed that they invented Ethernet in the past as well &#8230; yeah!! OK &#8230; Write your congressional rep. about patent reform &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/27/wsj-censoring-vonages-ads/#comment-169050</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;This is an AD, not an article. Surely the WSJ has the right to choose what kind of advertising it will allow, just like GigaOM does. Personally I wouldn&#039;t be happy with a war between two companies being brought into my companies advertisements.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, competition is definitely good, but if you guys have any basic understanding of economics, surely you know the purpose of patents right?...&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an AD, not an article. Surely the WSJ has the right to choose what kind of advertising it will allow, just like GigaOM does. Personally I wouldn&#8217;t be happy with a war between two companies being brought into my companies advertisements.</p>
<p>Also, competition is definitely good, but if you guys have any basic understanding of economics, surely you know the purpose of patents right?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NWParsons</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/27/wsj-censoring-vonages-ads/#comment-169049</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NWParsons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;This is pretty sad, it seems that Verizon is only about the money. Why wait so long to file the Patent Suits. Vonage has been in operation for a while now. We relocated to Cleveland, Ohio due to the fact that Time Warner Cable did not have phone service yet, so we had to go with giant AT&amp;T. They suck and their expensive even for a basic line with no features. I never tried Vontage before, so we switched to Vonage. It works great and their prices are great, because you get features and they are cheap. We got our equipment on time, it was easy to install, and we are happy customers in Cleveland, Ohio. GROW UP WSJ AND VERIZON, CENSORSHIP IS SO PRO-BUSH!
NWP/FNO&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty sad, it seems that Verizon is only about the money. Why wait so long to file the Patent Suits. Vonage has been in operation for a while now. We relocated to Cleveland, Ohio due to the fact that Time Warner Cable did not have phone service yet, so we had to go with giant AT&amp;T. They suck and their expensive even for a basic line with no features. I never tried Vontage before, so we switched to Vonage. It works great and their prices are great, because you get features and they are cheap. We got our equipment on time, it was easy to install, and we are happy customers in Cleveland, Ohio. GROW UP WSJ AND VERIZON, CENSORSHIP IS SO PRO-BUSH!<br />
NWP/FNO</p>
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