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	<title>Comments on: Steve Jobs, saved by the rising stock</title>
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		<title>By: Lawrence</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98710</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Steve is in good shape, inspite of any doubts. The release of the Iphone in the near future will only prove that quicker.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve is in good shape, inspite of any doubts. The release of the Iphone in the near future will only prove that quicker.</p>
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		<title>By: Crabapple</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98707</link>
		<dc:creator>Crabapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Get real people! The man is paid $1.00 for a years work. He came back to rescue the company he co-founded after the greedy share holders and over ambitious Vice president booted him out thinking they had all the answers on how to enrich themselves.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Years later when all was falling about their ears, the share holders realised their mistake and humbly begged him back (he had a successful Business Of his own then. Next computing).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The share holders wanted to reward him better than the measly $1.00 salary but due to this that and the other, the decision that had been made in his abscence was not ratified until later by all the signatories. As CEO, he then signs what ever the board approves which is share options to deserving employees. Of course the details into the investigation are far more detailed than this sketchy outline, but the most important issue in all this is that no shareholder lost as a result of this action. No share holder has raised any complaint or threatened to sue independently. All the share holders &#38; customers of Apple Inc i.e Applelites are extremely happy and satisfied with their CEO, board &#38; employees.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In this light how can you find find anything to complain about unless you happen to be in a rival camp.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get real people! The man is paid $1.00 for a years work. He came back to rescue the company he co-founded after the greedy share holders and over ambitious Vice president booted him out thinking they had all the answers on how to enrich themselves.</p>
<p>Years later when all was falling about their ears, the share holders realised their mistake and humbly begged him back (he had a successful Business Of his own then. Next computing).</p>
<p>The share holders wanted to reward him better than the measly $1.00 salary but due to this that and the other, the decision that had been made in his abscence was not ratified until later by all the signatories. As CEO, he then signs what ever the board approves which is share options to deserving employees. Of course the details into the investigation are far more detailed than this sketchy outline, but the most important issue in all this is that no shareholder lost as a result of this action. No share holder has raised any complaint or threatened to sue independently. All the share holders &amp; customers of Apple Inc i.e Applelites are extremely happy and satisfied with their CEO, board &amp; employees.</p>
<p>In this light how can you find find anything to complain about unless you happen to be in a rival camp.</p>
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		<title>By: Ol' Yeller</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98704</link>
		<dc:creator>Ol' Yeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We have yet to see what the ex-GC will say - her lawyer said "we have a great defense."  Hmmm...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jobs is a very savvy business guy, not a starry-eyed product wonk.  Coincidence that Pixar AND Apple both have back-dating scandals?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jobs is highly regarded as a top-notch jerk, and I can attest to that after having been in a meeting with him for 90 minutes.  Just being a jerk doesn't mean he's guilty, but my instinct says he is.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have yet to see what the ex-GC will say - her lawyer said &#8220;we have a great defense.&#8221;  Hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>Jobs is a very savvy business guy, not a starry-eyed product wonk.  Coincidence that Pixar AND Apple both have back-dating scandals?</p>
<p>Jobs is highly regarded as a top-notch jerk, and I can attest to that after having been in a meeting with him for 90 minutes.  Just being a jerk doesn&#8217;t mean he&#8217;s guilty, but my instinct says he is.</p>
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		<title>By: howard Lindzon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98686</link>
		<dc:creator>howard Lindzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A really good post.  No win situation.  Job's wins in the court of public opinion so unlike Martha Stewart, they would likely lose.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It llooks like the opposite should happen.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A really good post.  No win situation.  Job&#8217;s wins in the court of public opinion so unlike Martha Stewart, they would likely lose.</p>
<p>It llooks like the opposite should happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Evans</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98689</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting to see that Apple's high stock price is apparently saving Steve Jobs' job (personally, I don't believe this theory) but over at Research in Motion, a stock options problem has been taking the veneer off the company's previously-squeaky clean CEOs - Jim Balsillie and Mike Lazaridis even though RIM shares continue to fly high.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to see that Apple&#8217;s high stock price is apparently saving Steve Jobs&#8217; job (personally, I don&#8217;t believe this theory) but over at Research in Motion, a stock options problem has been taking the veneer off the company&#8217;s previously-squeaky clean CEOs - Jim Balsillie and Mike Lazaridis even though RIM shares continue to fly high.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98698</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;According to Nancy's emails on the matter, the options were in fact &lt;em&gt;forward&lt;/em&gt; dated. So there may not have even been the &lt;em&gt;appearance&lt;/em&gt; of a crime.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Nancy&#8217;s emails on the matter, the options were in fact <em>forward</em> dated. So there may not have even been the <em>appearance</em> of a crime.</p>
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		<title>By: RandomThoughts</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98701</link>
		<dc:creator>RandomThoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The laws are not unclear, it is very obvious that not accounting for backdated options are illegal.  It is true that it is up to the discretion of the SEC to go forward or not, but Jobs did break the law (you know it, I know it, the Wall Street Journal knows it and the SEC knows it.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Backdated options have nothing to do with rewarding performance.  It actually is exactly opposite of what stock options are designed to do, because when they are backdated, the profit is already realized.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for the ex-CFO and ex-GC, of course they had direction from the board and from Jobs.  Staff don't do these things without the leadership knowing it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jobs is responsible for this, but I don't think the SEC will go after him for a number of reasons.  Now, if Al Gore decides to run for president, I think the situation will change.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The laws are not unclear, it is very obvious that not accounting for backdated options are illegal.  It is true that it is up to the discretion of the SEC to go forward or not, but Jobs did break the law (you know it, I know it, the Wall Street Journal knows it and the SEC knows it.)</p>
<p>Backdated options have nothing to do with rewarding performance.  It actually is exactly opposite of what stock options are designed to do, because when they are backdated, the profit is already realized.</p>
<p>As for the ex-CFO and ex-GC, of course they had direction from the board and from Jobs.  Staff don&#8217;t do these things without the leadership knowing it.</p>
<p>Jobs is responsible for this, but I don&#8217;t think the SEC will go after him for a number of reasons.  Now, if Al Gore decides to run for president, I think the situation will change.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve W</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98695</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why is the blogsphere ignoring the real coverup? Apple's current success isn't due to falling component prices. The release of Microsoft Vista is to blame. "A rising tide lifts all boats".&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is the blogsphere ignoring the real coverup? Apple&#8217;s current success isn&#8217;t due to falling component prices. The release of Microsoft Vista is to blame. &#8220;A rising tide lifts all boats&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Steele</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98692</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Steele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The thing I dislike about this whole "scandal", as the media is calling it, is that really no harm was done. The company is doing great, no stockholders lost money.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course they did break the law so they should get in trouble, but a lot of people are completely overreacting and making it seem like another Enron.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing I dislike about this whole &#8220;scandal&#8221;, as the media is calling it, is that really no harm was done. The company is doing great, no stockholders lost money.</p>
<p>Of course they did break the law so they should get in trouble, but a lot of people are completely overreacting and making it seem like another Enron.</p>
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		<title>By: Vitaboy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98683</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;By the way, here's a question for Kevin.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If Fred Anderson knew granting those backdated options were so wrong, why in the end did he accept a big chunk of backdated stock?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;"Oh, Steve, there's some serious accounting implications about doing this, but you know what, let's forget about all that because I really like the look of those stock certificates."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Or maybe:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;"Well, I tried to warn Steve but in the end, the board bullied me into accepting stock that was worth $3.5 million more than it should have been. It was against my ethics, but I was afraid of losing my job (or something). They even forced me to sign the paper with a date I knew was incorrect!"&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yeah, right Kevin - Fred's story is more plausible.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, here&#8217;s a question for Kevin.</p>
<p>If Fred Anderson knew granting those backdated options were so wrong, why in the end did he accept a big chunk of backdated stock?</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, Steve, there&#8217;s some serious accounting implications about doing this, but you know what, let&#8217;s forget about all that because I really like the look of those stock certificates.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or maybe:</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, I tried to warn Steve but in the end, the board bullied me into accepting stock that was worth $3.5 million more than it should have been. It was against my ethics, but I was afraid of losing my job (or something). They even forced me to sign the paper with a date I knew was incorrect!&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, right Kevin - Fred&#8217;s story is more plausible.</p>
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		<title>By: Vitaboy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98680</link>
		<dc:creator>Vitaboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No doubt we will still here people latching onto the meme that Apple is going to dump the Mac despite the fact that Mac sales are still growing at a sizzling pace.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And I have a feeling that those crying out for "justice for Jobs" really don't care about that at all. Wiping out 20% of shareholder value overnight is less important than the pleasure of seeing Jobs being taken down a notch or two.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And it's funny that Kevin is so readily willing to take Fred Anderson's word while an independent internal investigation and an external investigation by the SES was somehow not enough to clear Jobs of wrongdoing. Fred can saying anything, but the board came up with paperwork proof that satisfied the SEC - all Fred has is his word.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Seems like the only reason questions linger is that people like Kevin keep inventing them out of a personal need to see Jobs punished.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt we will still here people latching onto the meme that Apple is going to dump the Mac despite the fact that Mac sales are still growing at a sizzling pace.</p>
<p>And I have a feeling that those crying out for &#8220;justice for Jobs&#8221; really don&#8217;t care about that at all. Wiping out 20% of shareholder value overnight is less important than the pleasure of seeing Jobs being taken down a notch or two.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s funny that Kevin is so readily willing to take Fred Anderson&#8217;s word while an independent internal investigation and an external investigation by the SES was somehow not enough to clear Jobs of wrongdoing. Fred can saying anything, but the board came up with paperwork proof that satisfied the SEC - all Fred has is his word.</p>
<p>Seems like the only reason questions linger is that people like Kevin keep inventing them out of a personal need to see Jobs punished.</p>
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		<title>By: soxiam</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98677</link>
		<dc:creator>soxiam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;"Sales for Mac products were up 36% year over year, substantially faster growth than in iPods and iTunes, which were up 25%."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hey what happened to that "We're not a computer company anymore. We're a consumer electronics company."?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sales for Mac products were up 36% year over year, substantially faster growth than in iPods and iTunes, which were up 25%.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey what happened to that &#8220;We&#8217;re not a computer company anymore. We&#8217;re a consumer electronics company.&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Abbi Vakil</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98674</link>
		<dc:creator>Abbi Vakil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is not the 1st time that Apple stock has risen over $100. Kevin Kelleher doesn't remember that AAPL split 2:1 about 2 years ago. So this achievement today is more like the first time Apple's stock has risen over $200!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not the 1st time that Apple stock has risen over $100. Kevin Kelleher doesn&#8217;t remember that AAPL split 2:1 about 2 years ago. So this achievement today is more like the first time Apple&#8217;s stock has risen over $200!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Stead</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98671</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Stead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The rising stock and the options awards are not unrelated. The options were used to pay the people who have made Apple a success (no good people, no rising stock). This options brouhaha is another example of a "crime" with zero victims.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jim&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rising stock and the options awards are not unrelated. The options were used to pay the people who have made Apple a success (no good people, no rising stock). This options brouhaha is another example of a &#8220;crime&#8221; with zero victims.</p>
<p>Jim</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98668</link>
		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The whole issue is about harm to shareholders.  I know it can be painful to overlook the potential wrongdoing, but what course of action will benefit shareholders, going after the CEO, or letting him skate?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I believe in football, a team has the option to decline a penalty if that would be in its best interest.  As a shareholder, I vote for declining the penalty.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole issue is about harm to shareholders.  I know it can be painful to overlook the potential wrongdoing, but what course of action will benefit shareholders, going after the CEO, or letting him skate?</p>
<p>I believe in football, a team has the option to decline a penalty if that would be in its best interest.  As a shareholder, I vote for declining the penalty.</p>
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		<title>By: P. G.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/26/apple-jobs-1q-2007-earnings/#comment-98665</link>
		<dc:creator>P. G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 14:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Apple missed an opportunity when the board committee issued its report earlier this year. Rather than absolve Jobs of all blame, it should have admitted he'd made a mistake that was common during the excesses of the boom and agree to have Apple employees, including Jobs, reimburse investors for any losses. Now all Apple's shareholders can do is hope that regulators prove as forgiving as the board.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple missed an opportunity when the board committee issued its report earlier this year. Rather than absolve Jobs of all blame, it should have admitted he&#8217;d made a mistake that was common during the excesses of the boom and agree to have Apple employees, including Jobs, reimburse investors for any losses. Now all Apple&#8217;s shareholders can do is hope that regulators prove as forgiving as the board.</p>
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