Is it just me, or is the latest ad from Apple – Stuffed – a little hypocritical? I mean, if I’m not mistaken my MacBook came with a demo of Office and 1 or 2 other things that I don’t remember now, since removing them the […]

Is it just me, or is the latest ad from Apple – Stuffed – a little hypocritical? I mean, if I’m not mistaken my MacBook came with a demo of Office and 1 or 2 other things that I don’t remember now, since removing them the moment I got the machine home. Granted, this is no where near the volume of junk found on a Windows PC, but still, a low blow by Apple?

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  1. Yeah, but Macs don’t come with a bunch of crap that is running in the background, bogging down your processor. That’s the difference.
    My friend bought his wife a $500 Vista-equipped laptop. True, $500 will get you a crappy machine, but that thing had so many craplets loaded on it that it takes nearly five minutes for all of the background processes to stop running once you boot up.

  2. Mine only came with an iWork demo…

  3. Mine had an iWork demo, but it came with an iWord CD.

    There needs to be a Quicktime Player that is not an ad for Quicktime Pro (and has fullscreen without me having to bind an Applescript to Cmd-F in Quicksilver).

  4. Mine came with a few demos stashed away in the Apps folder. They took up little space, they didn’t run by themselves, and I only found them when I went looking.

    Contrast that with a typical Windows PC which has a dozen or so FREE TRIAL! offers on the desktop, in the start menu, in the tray, when you start programs, and when you attempt to do anything something hook up a camera, print a page, or go online.

    The only thing I’ve found Apple to “push” is .Mac. I’d still label the way they do that “tasteful,” though. I’m guessing most people’s perception of the Office and Quicken demos on their Macs – should they even encounter them – is that they are suggestions; on Windows, they are a nuisance.

  5. I posted this on my blog a few months ago, I don’t feel the ad is low at all, it’s accurate!

    Every time we buy a new Dell PC for the business or the house I spend at least two or more hours not configuring it, but unconfiguring the darn thing. With each passing month it seems Dell loads more and more bloated crap onto these machines that takes hours to pull off..

    Countless media players, Symantec’s bloated “security” software that often does more harm than good, AOL, Earthlink installers, trial software, Yahoo’s music player, Google’s toolbar and desktop, and even something calling itself “Otto.” Please..

    Now of course all this junk I don’t want subsidizes the cost of the computer. Great. But the time it takes to remove this stuff (or reinstall Windows from scratch) is time (and money) wasted.

    Maybe I’ve just become a Mac snob.

  6. Nick – I thought the same thing. I’ve been a mac guy for 20 years so I guess I never realized windows came with stuff like the other users posted, and not knowing that, I thought it was a low blow. My last mac came with demo versions of Office, Quickbooks, iWork, Omni (several little apps), and several little shareware apps.

  7. The demos on most new Macs are nowhere near as bad as the trialware and nagware on most new PCs. Can you imagine if Apple shipped all of their Macs to open .zip archivers with StuffIt, set to nag you to register it all the time? Or if instead of Preview, image files opened up in a crippled version of Photoshop Elements?

    And did you read Mossberg’s WSJ article on how he found a Sony VAIO PC’s hard drive filled with movies he couldn’t watch unless he paid Sony? The closest thing to that was when Apple shipped copies of “A Bug’s Life” with their G3 iMacs – and that was the full DVD version.

  8. Being a converted Mac user, when I was a PC user and bought a PC (Sony, Dell, Hp and a few others) it was terrible how much crap they threw on it! Most of it was media packages that seemed to intertwine themselves with windows itself so that when I would uninstall them and reboot, i would get random error messages that were related with that removed software. These messages would come up whether I used Add/Remove or the software’s uninstaller. So then I would have to troubleshoot the messages and spend all my built up excitement of getting the computer on cleaning and fixing it!

    I actually have friends and relatives who still ask me to come and uninstall “all the stuff that annoys them”.

    Haven’t experienced this at all with my Macs.

  9. As others have already mentioned, the primary difference is in the degree of intrusiveness. True, Macs come with trial versions of iWork, Office, and such, but apart from taking up hard drive space, you wouldn’t even notice without looking for them. Windows PCs, on the other hand, come loaded with tray icons that consume resources, shortcut icons littered all over the desktop and start menu, in-your-face popup nags, and so on.

  10. go buy a dell or a fujitsu and you will understand.

    it’s not “demo software”, it’s REAL CRAP ALREADY INSTALLED AND MERGED with the Registry

    Merged, Combined and all in the whole windows stuff, menu, panel and in unfathomable place.. ho my dear…

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