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	<title>Comments on: HOW TO: Deal with a MySpace Ban</title>
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		<title>By: &#187; YouTube spotlights presidential candidates; CBS excludes YouTube/MySpace from content deals; Can YouTube Hear Me? (update); and more &#124; The Social Web &#124; ZDNet.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/12/how-to-deal-with-a-myspace-ban/#comment-141449</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#187; YouTube spotlights presidential candidates; CBS excludes YouTube/MySpace from content deals; Can YouTube Hear Me? (update); and more &#124; The Social Web &#124; ZDNet.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 22:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] to deal with being blocked by MySpace. GigaOm has a good post detailing the history of how companies have responded to being blocked from accessing the MySpace [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to deal with being blocked by MySpace. GigaOm has a good post detailing the history of how companies have responded to being blocked from accessing the MySpace [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blake Kadatz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/12/how-to-deal-with-a-myspace-ban/#comment-141448</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blake Kadatz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 20:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&quot;If I built a house and strangers randomly invited people I didn’t know inside offering them my ammeneties then I’d be pissed too.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ty, I think the more appropriate analogy here is that MySpace built an empty house, but its users filled the house with their own creative works.  Now MySpace is pissed that someone&#039;s artwork is showing an advertisement.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course, it&#039;s their house so they get to say what goes and what doesn&#039;t.  But when their entire business model depends on the contributions of users who have questionable loyalty, I wonder how much they can try and control it before the golden geese move elsewhere.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I built a house and strangers randomly invited people I didn’t know inside offering them my ammeneties then I’d be pissed too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ty, I think the more appropriate analogy here is that MySpace built an empty house, but its users filled the house with their own creative works.  Now MySpace is pissed that someone&#8217;s artwork is showing an advertisement.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s their house so they get to say what goes and what doesn&#8217;t.  But when their entire business model depends on the contributions of users who have questionable loyalty, I wonder how much they can try and control it before the golden geese move elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Ty Graham</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/12/how-to-deal-with-a-myspace-ban/#comment-141444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ty Graham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&quot;Revver is unwilling to budge on its creator-compensation concept&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;True - Revver&#039;s model is one way to compensate a creator.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;MySpace is unwilling to budge on third-party widget makers advertising on its space, so no resolution is in sight.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;False - Myspace seems to not like revver&#039;s model and hence baned them and photbucket&#039;s similar use of that model.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If I built a house and strangers randomly invited people I didn&#039;t know inside offering them my ammeneties then I&#039;d be pissed too.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Isn&#039;t that obvious?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Pay Attention, because soon, everyone is going to get blipd!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Revver is unwilling to budge on its creator-compensation concept&#8221;</p>
<p>True &#8211; Revver&#8217;s model is one way to compensate a creator.</p>
<p>&#8220;MySpace is unwilling to budge on third-party widget makers advertising on its space, so no resolution is in sight.&#8221;</p>
<p>False &#8211; Myspace seems to not like revver&#8217;s model and hence baned them and photbucket&#8217;s similar use of that model.</p>
<p>If I built a house and strangers randomly invited people I didn&#8217;t know inside offering them my ammeneties then I&#8217;d be pissed too.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that obvious?</p>
<p>Pay Attention, because soon, everyone is going to get blipd!</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Gannes</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/12/how-to-deal-with-a-myspace-ban/#comment-141447</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz Gannes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Ivan, I&#039;ll talk to Friendster next week and get back to you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Alex, thanks for the additional information. I&#039;d love to talk about this strategy more if you&#039;re ever in SF.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ivan, I&#8217;ll talk to Friendster next week and get back to you.</p>
<p>Alex, thanks for the additional information. I&#8217;d love to talk about this strategy more if you&#8217;re ever in SF.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Black</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/12/how-to-deal-with-a-myspace-ban/#comment-141446</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Hey Liz, Alex Black here from Revver. I just wanted to chime in on a few points you bring up in your post.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MySpace has always been a negigible source of traffic for us. Myspace is only important to us in that we want to ensure that our creators can earn money for their creativity and our sharers can earn money for their promotion on any site out there, Myspace being one of them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Myspace began blocking &lt;b&gt;new&lt;/b&gt; Revver embeds in late January, meaning there wouldn&#039;t have been an immediate traffic drop from Myspace embeds until user profiles were updated - so that certainly wouldn&#039;t explain the small fluctuation in traffic that the graph shows for January. While the graph may correlate to the argument, the actual causes for small fluctuations in traffic are many and varied. Myspace&#039;s ban on Revver videos has done little to affect our traffic, and, by proving that creators cannot rely on third parties such as Myspace to always act in their interests, has had the opposite effect of validating the original business model that Revver has always pursued - empowering creators and sharers to monetize their content while controlling the look and feel of their &lt;b&gt;own&lt;/b&gt; sites and brands.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To this end we&#039;ve developed the most robust and full-featured API in the industry, even using it to power our own site. Partners such as VH1&#039;s Acceptable TV (http://acceptable.tv) show just how much you can do with the API. We&#039;ve also developed an incredibly customizable JavaScript widget that enables creators and sharers to easily add rich - and monetized - video content to their sites - entire sites are sprouting up around this easy to implement solution. We&#039;ve got a few other tricks up our sleeves that you&#039;ll be hearing about in the coming weeks as well.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Myspace ban has proven one thing above all - that creators that are serious about their trade and about their brand cannot rely on third parties such as Myspace. Myspace has always argued that other companies have built their fortunes &quot;on Myspace&#039;s back&quot; - that couldn&#039;t be further from the truth. Myspace built its fortune on its user base - the age of those users giving companies like Myspace all their hard work is coming to an end. Users increasingly see the value of the content they are creating. It won&#039;t be long before users migrate to their own blogs and sites where they have final say over what content is and isn&#039;t allowed - and Revver is in the perfect position to empower those users.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Liz, Alex Black here from Revver. I just wanted to chime in on a few points you bring up in your post.</p>
<p>MySpace has always been a negigible source of traffic for us. Myspace is only important to us in that we want to ensure that our creators can earn money for their creativity and our sharers can earn money for their promotion on any site out there, Myspace being one of them.</p>
<p>Myspace began blocking <b>new</b> Revver embeds in late January, meaning there wouldn&#8217;t have been an immediate traffic drop from Myspace embeds until user profiles were updated &#8211; so that certainly wouldn&#8217;t explain the small fluctuation in traffic that the graph shows for January. While the graph may correlate to the argument, the actual causes for small fluctuations in traffic are many and varied. Myspace&#8217;s ban on Revver videos has done little to affect our traffic, and, by proving that creators cannot rely on third parties such as Myspace to always act in their interests, has had the opposite effect of validating the original business model that Revver has always pursued &#8211; empowering creators and sharers to monetize their content while controlling the look and feel of their <b>own</b> sites and brands.</p>
<p>To this end we&#8217;ve developed the most robust and full-featured API in the industry, even using it to power our own site. Partners such as VH1&#8242;s Acceptable TV (<a href="http://acceptable.tv" rel="nofollow">http://acceptable.tv</a>) show just how much you can do with the API. We&#8217;ve also developed an incredibly customizable JavaScript widget that enables creators and sharers to easily add rich &#8211; and monetized &#8211; video content to their sites &#8211; entire sites are sprouting up around this easy to implement solution. We&#8217;ve got a few other tricks up our sleeves that you&#8217;ll be hearing about in the coming weeks as well.</p>
<p>The Myspace ban has proven one thing above all &#8211; that creators that are serious about their trade and about their brand cannot rely on third parties such as Myspace. Myspace has always argued that other companies have built their fortunes &#8220;on Myspace&#8217;s back&#8221; &#8211; that couldn&#8217;t be further from the truth. Myspace built its fortune on its user base &#8211; the age of those users giving companies like Myspace all their hard work is coming to an end. Users increasingly see the value of the content they are creating. It won&#8217;t be long before users migrate to their own blogs and sites where they have final say over what content is and isn&#8217;t allowed &#8211; and Revver is in the perfect position to empower those users.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivan Pope</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/12/how-to-deal-with-a-myspace-ban/#comment-141445</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ivan Pope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 11:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;“A friendlier Friendster, widgets, new tools and all, has re-emerged in 2006 and 2007 as a global leader in online social networking. While MySpace is looking less and less like the free-to-be-me place it was circa 2005 and 2006.”&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Honestly Liz, what and where on Friendster can you use widgets? I&#039;ve just been on a hunt and there is not a sign of a widget on the whole site as far as I can see - unless I&#039;m missing something? Please ask Friendster what they mean by widgets and where we can use them. I&#039;m not huge fan of MySpace, but as far as I can see it&#039;s far far more open than Friendster. Unless they integrate Snipperoo ...&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“A friendlier Friendster, widgets, new tools and all, has re-emerged in 2006 and 2007 as a global leader in online social networking. While MySpace is looking less and less like the free-to-be-me place it was circa 2005 and 2006.”</p>
<p>Honestly Liz, what and where on Friendster can you use widgets? I&#8217;ve just been on a hunt and there is not a sign of a widget on the whole site as far as I can see &#8211; unless I&#8217;m missing something? Please ask Friendster what they mean by widgets and where we can use them. I&#8217;m not huge fan of MySpace, but as far as I can see it&#8217;s far far more open than Friendster. Unless they integrate Snipperoo &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: davis freeberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[davis freeberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 02:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Myspace is totally chump for pulling this kind of crap.  Friends shouldn&#039;t let friends lock themselves into closed networks.  If you are going to make money off of user generated content, then you shouldn&#039;t censor what your users want to say, even if someone else makes money off it.  Web 2.0 was a lot more fun before people started figuring out how to make money off of it.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myspace is totally chump for pulling this kind of crap.  Friends shouldn&#8217;t let friends lock themselves into closed networks.  If you are going to make money off of user generated content, then you shouldn&#8217;t censor what your users want to say, even if someone else makes money off it.  Web 2.0 was a lot more fun before people started figuring out how to make money off of it.</p>
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