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		<title>By: Mr Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Vonage would be in the same mess even without the Verizon patent case</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Vonage would be in the same mess even without the Verizon patent case]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] if they win this case against Verizon, because the more I look at it, the more it appears to be totally bogus and we should all be standing up to defend Vonage.    Subscribe to the comments for this post  [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] if they win this case against Verizon, because the more I look at it, the more it appears to be totally bogus and we should all be standing up to defend Vonage.    Subscribe to the comments for this post  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PRMan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140990</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PRMan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;My question is why does Verizon get to wait until Vonage has over 2 million customers and has spent hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising before sueing?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Surely they realized their patents might have been violated 7 years ago when everyone first heard of Vonage...  But I guess it wasn&#039;t worth it to protect their assets then.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s why patents should be like Trademarks.  If you don&#039;t vigorously protect it, you lose it.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is why does Verizon get to wait until Vonage has over 2 million customers and has spent hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising before sueing?</p>
<p>Surely they realized their patents might have been violated 7 years ago when everyone first heard of Vonage&#8230;  But I guess it wasn&#8217;t worth it to protect their assets then.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why patents should be like Trademarks.  If you don&#8217;t vigorously protect it, you lose it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Moore</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140989</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Moore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Ronald Riley,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Have you no concept of overly broad patents, prior art, or multiple similar patents in the system.  In any case, Vonage shouldn&#039;t be the one being sued - they are just using technology provided by other companies.  That technology should be useable in good faith and if anybody should have been sued to start with it should be those who provided the technology that uses the overly broad Verizon patents.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald Riley,</p>
<p>Have you no concept of overly broad patents, prior art, or multiple similar patents in the system.  In any case, Vonage shouldn&#8217;t be the one being sued &#8211; they are just using technology provided by other companies.  That technology should be useable in good faith and if anybody should have been sued to start with it should be those who provided the technology that uses the overly broad Verizon patents.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Moore</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140988</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron Moore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Individuals such as yourself should voulenteer a bit of time to support Vonage&#039;s court fight.  As a former Verizon employee with your credentials it should make interesting press.  I am fed up with the direction patents and lawsuits are heading here in the US.  Overly broad patents and legal battles that only stifle innovation.  My little part is to never use Verizon services.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Individuals such as yourself should voulenteer a bit of time to support Vonage&#8217;s court fight.  As a former Verizon employee with your credentials it should make interesting press.  I am fed up with the direction patents and lawsuits are heading here in the US.  Overly broad patents and legal battles that only stifle innovation.  My little part is to never use Verizon services.</p>
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		<title>By: Bubba Joe</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140986</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bubba Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Mr Riley,
At least your honest where your bread is buttered.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But, people who truly invent things (like machine vision) feel like the rest of us - that the patent system is broken.  For example, see http://www.advancedimagingpro.com/publication/article.jsp?pubId=1&amp;id=90&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Nello Zuech, President of Vision Systems International, applauds Cognex and Symbol&#039;s efforts. &quot;It&#039;s about time common sense prevailed,&quot; says Zuech. &quot;The users of machine vision have been held hostage and extorted by a guy who claims to have invented just about everything... In the case of machine vision, he corrupted the patent system by writing new patents and adding claims to his old patents as he read about applications of machine vision in the commercial press. If I had been writing patents instead of proposals as I was in the early 70s, most of his patents would have been invalid—and I was not alone at that time.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Riley,<br />
At least your honest where your bread is buttered.</p>
<p>But, people who truly invent things (like machine vision) feel like the rest of us &#8211; that the patent system is broken.  For example, see <a href="http://www.advancedimagingpro.com/publication/article.jsp?pubId=1&#038;id=90" rel="nofollow">http://www.advancedimagingpro.com/publication/article.jsp?pubId=1&#038;id=90</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Nello Zuech, President of Vision Systems International, applauds Cognex and Symbol&#8217;s efforts. &#8220;It&#8217;s about time common sense prevailed,&#8221; says Zuech. &#8220;The users of machine vision have been held hostage and extorted by a guy who claims to have invented just about everything&#8230; In the case of machine vision, he corrupted the patent system by writing new patents and adding claims to his old patents as he read about applications of machine vision in the commercial press. If I had been writing patents instead of proposals as I was in the early 70s, most of his patents would have been invalid—and I was not alone at that time.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140987</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 15:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The real question:  How is it possible to patent methods and technologies that are described in detail in an open standard?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Verizon shouldn&#039;t have been given the patents in the first place.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real question:  How is it possible to patent methods and technologies that are described in detail in an open standard?</p>
<p>Verizon shouldn&#8217;t have been given the patents in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald J Riley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140985</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald J Riley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 02:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Patents are a great equalizer for upstart inventors.  Look at Eolas, NTP, etc.  Lone inventors with a few patents can and do take on big players and WIN.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What is funny or maybe sad is that they are some very bad corporate players who grew to the point that they can no longer invent anything significant.  But they have lots of money, much of it obtained through theft of others&#039; intellectual property, they are incredibly arrogant, and they know how to be inventive with public relations.  They are misleading the public by blaming their self inflicted litigation problems on the patent system.  And they are systematically shipping both the capital they made from invention and our country&#039;s intellectual capital to developing countries.  They are milking America dry, and they want your help in finishing the job.  You really need to wise up, because if people do not stop buying the propaganda the patent pirating transnational&#039;s are feeding them you call all kiss you jobs and prosperity goodbye.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So who is at fault here?  Vonage reminds me of a young Dell, Microsoft, or Cisco.  None of them built their business on inventions.  Rather they built a business on others&#039; inventions.  In all these cases they got sued for taking liberties with other&#039;s property.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I view Verizon as a lumbering dinosaur and personally think that the world would be better off without the old telecoms.  Lets face the fact that telecoms are dieing, and they know it.  They are going to fight with all they have.  It will not save them but they are not ready to accept the fact that the business is changing in ways where they will have no place.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But Vonage either failed to check for patents relevant to their business or they intentionally took liberties with other&#039;s property.  Other VOIP providers say that they have no issues with Verizon.  Is this because they did the patent clearance searches and then worked around the patents?  Perhaps they invented and patented better means to deliver VOIP services?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The patent system is not broken, and the only companies with litigation crises are those who run fast and loose with others patent properties.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One last point, any engineer worth their salt can learn to read and understand patents.  The differing opinions are driven by one group who knows what they are talking about and another who does not.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ronald J. Riley,
President - www.PIAUSA.org - RJR at PIAUSA.org
Executive Director - www.InventorEd.org - RJR at InvEd.org
Senior Fellow - www.PatentPolicy.org - RRiley at PatentPolicy.org
Washington, DC
Direct (202) 318-1595 - 9 am to 9 pm EST.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patents are a great equalizer for upstart inventors.  Look at Eolas, NTP, etc.  Lone inventors with a few patents can and do take on big players and WIN.</p>
<p>What is funny or maybe sad is that they are some very bad corporate players who grew to the point that they can no longer invent anything significant.  But they have lots of money, much of it obtained through theft of others&#8217; intellectual property, they are incredibly arrogant, and they know how to be inventive with public relations.  They are misleading the public by blaming their self inflicted litigation problems on the patent system.  And they are systematically shipping both the capital they made from invention and our country&#8217;s intellectual capital to developing countries.  They are milking America dry, and they want your help in finishing the job.  You really need to wise up, because if people do not stop buying the propaganda the patent pirating transnational&#8217;s are feeding them you call all kiss you jobs and prosperity goodbye.</p>
<p>So who is at fault here?  Vonage reminds me of a young Dell, Microsoft, or Cisco.  None of them built their business on inventions.  Rather they built a business on others&#8217; inventions.  In all these cases they got sued for taking liberties with other&#8217;s property.</p>
<p>I view Verizon as a lumbering dinosaur and personally think that the world would be better off without the old telecoms.  Lets face the fact that telecoms are dieing, and they know it.  They are going to fight with all they have.  It will not save them but they are not ready to accept the fact that the business is changing in ways where they will have no place.</p>
<p>But Vonage either failed to check for patents relevant to their business or they intentionally took liberties with other&#8217;s property.  Other VOIP providers say that they have no issues with Verizon.  Is this because they did the patent clearance searches and then worked around the patents?  Perhaps they invented and patented better means to deliver VOIP services?</p>
<p>The patent system is not broken, and the only companies with litigation crises are those who run fast and loose with others patent properties.</p>
<p>One last point, any engineer worth their salt can learn to read and understand patents.  The differing opinions are driven by one group who knows what they are talking about and another who does not.</p>
<p>Ronald J. Riley,<br />
President &#8211; <a href="http://www.PIAUSA.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.PIAUSA.org</a> &#8211; RJR at PIAUSA.org<br />
Executive Director &#8211; <a href="http://www.InventorEd.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.InventorEd.org</a> &#8211; RJR at InvEd.org<br />
Senior Fellow &#8211; <a href="http://www.PatentPolicy.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.PatentPolicy.org</a> &#8211; RRiley at PatentPolicy.org<br />
Washington, DC<br />
Direct (202) 318-1595 &#8211; 9 am to 9 pm EST.</p>
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		<title>By: Pro-VOIP</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140983</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pro-VOIP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I think what is disgusting is Verizon attacking a budding company.  Billions vs. millions?  Come on.  Cable is the real threat.  It&#039;s too bad big business is all about entrenchment and ripping off consumers.  Remember Enron?  Ken Lay for years pimped the Bush family and legislature to dereg the nat gas industry.  Then it took its perceived prowess and manipulated the electricity markets in California...essentially ripping off the unsuspecting and squashing anyone or anything in the way.  Verizon&#039;s actions are 100% consistent with its perfect anti-trust, anti-competitive track record.  Simply, Verizon is afraid to duke it out in the streets so it abuses our judicial system.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I prefer the early days of nascent auto manufacturing where Ford didn&#039;t care about patents or who used his ideas or manufacturing techniques.  Everyone benefited and the competitors waged a war to provide consumers with a better car.  This lead to a period of mindscrambling innovation and creativity that arose out of such a short period of time...without Ford spending much time defending intellectual bull$hit.  Verizon, enough.  Start acting like a true competitor.  I couldn&#039;t stand Verizon when I had no choice before, and I&#039;ve come to loath the empire even more.  Simply, I&#039;d give up my phone, TV and internet if Verizon were the only choice.  Verizon et al...you disgust me.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what is disgusting is Verizon attacking a budding company.  Billions vs. millions?  Come on.  Cable is the real threat.  It&#8217;s too bad big business is all about entrenchment and ripping off consumers.  Remember Enron?  Ken Lay for years pimped the Bush family and legislature to dereg the nat gas industry.  Then it took its perceived prowess and manipulated the electricity markets in California&#8230;essentially ripping off the unsuspecting and squashing anyone or anything in the way.  Verizon&#8217;s actions are 100% consistent with its perfect anti-trust, anti-competitive track record.  Simply, Verizon is afraid to duke it out in the streets so it abuses our judicial system.</p>
<p>I prefer the early days of nascent auto manufacturing where Ford didn&#8217;t care about patents or who used his ideas or manufacturing techniques.  Everyone benefited and the competitors waged a war to provide consumers with a better car.  This lead to a period of mindscrambling innovation and creativity that arose out of such a short period of time&#8230;without Ford spending much time defending intellectual bull$hit.  Verizon, enough.  Start acting like a true competitor.  I couldn&#8217;t stand Verizon when I had no choice before, and I&#8217;ve come to loath the empire even more.  Simply, I&#8217;d give up my phone, TV and internet if Verizon were the only choice.  Verizon et al&#8230;you disgust me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140980</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse Kopelman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;As an engineer, reading patents is depressing. Patents are for lawyers. Is it any wonder that Steve G and Daniel have differing opinions here?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an engineer, reading patents is depressing. Patents are for lawyers. Is it any wonder that Steve G and Daniel have differing opinions here?</p>
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		<title>By: Patent-Monkey</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140984</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patent-Monkey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The Verizon patents all were published and issued when Vonage was founded in 2001.  In looking to the SEC, any prospective investors can see in Vonage&#039;s S-1 that they clearly had identified patent litigation risk:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;With respect to the patent litigation identified above [updated from 3 to 5 separately named cases], we believe that we have meritorious defenses against the claims. However, we might not ultimately prevail in these actions. Whether or not we ultimately prevail, litigation could be time-consuming and costly and injure our reputation. If any of the plaintiffs prevail in their respective actions, we may be required to negotiate royalty or license agreements with respect to the patents at issue, and may not be able to enter into such agreements on acceptable terms, if at all. Any limitation on our ability to provide a service or product could cause us to lose revenue-generating opportunities and require us to incur additional expenses. These potential costs and expenses, as well as the need to pay additional damages awarded in the favor of the plaintiffs could materially adversely affect our business.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Interesting to note in hindsight &quot;if at all&quot; in this section.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sprint, Rates Technology, Barry W. Thomas, Verizon and Klausner Technologies all have pursued patent litigation suits against Vonage dating back to 2005 which would be worth aggregating in your linked Wikia review.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Since its formation in 2001, Vonage holds 3 purchased patents, and 5 applications, but it appears correct to note that Vonage had no patented technology from its early formation days.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also from the SEC S-1, Vonage had invested almost $500 million in marketing at the time of the IPO, but no firm R&amp;D investments quantified to date in their 10-Q&#039;s.  They are rolled into the SG&amp;A section, which is smaller than marketing in total.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A better question might be what Vonage really is, a VoIP re-selling company or a VoIP technology player?  Perhaps that discussion will lead you to a different answer to the question &quot;Why do we have a VoIP patent mess?&quot; using Vonage as the poster child.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Verizon patents all were published and issued when Vonage was founded in 2001.  In looking to the SEC, any prospective investors can see in Vonage&#8217;s S-1 that they clearly had identified patent litigation risk:</p>
<p>&#8220;With respect to the patent litigation identified above [updated from 3 to 5 separately named cases], we believe that we have meritorious defenses against the claims. However, we might not ultimately prevail in these actions. Whether or not we ultimately prevail, litigation could be time-consuming and costly and injure our reputation. If any of the plaintiffs prevail in their respective actions, we may be required to negotiate royalty or license agreements with respect to the patents at issue, and may not be able to enter into such agreements on acceptable terms, if at all. Any limitation on our ability to provide a service or product could cause us to lose revenue-generating opportunities and require us to incur additional expenses. These potential costs and expenses, as well as the need to pay additional damages awarded in the favor of the plaintiffs could materially adversely affect our business.&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting to note in hindsight &#8220;if at all&#8221; in this section.</p>
<p>Sprint, Rates Technology, Barry W. Thomas, Verizon and Klausner Technologies all have pursued patent litigation suits against Vonage dating back to 2005 which would be worth aggregating in your linked Wikia review.</p>
<p>Since its formation in 2001, Vonage holds 3 purchased patents, and 5 applications, but it appears correct to note that Vonage had no patented technology from its early formation days.</p>
<p>Also from the SEC S-1, Vonage had invested almost $500 million in marketing at the time of the IPO, but no firm R&amp;D investments quantified to date in their 10-Q&#8217;s.  They are rolled into the SG&amp;A section, which is smaller than marketing in total.</p>
<p>A better question might be what Vonage really is, a VoIP re-selling company or a VoIP technology player?  Perhaps that discussion will lead you to a different answer to the question &#8220;Why do we have a VoIP patent mess?&#8221; using Vonage as the poster child.</p>
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		<title>By: Bubba Joe</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140979</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bubba Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 18:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Stevie G,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Try reading the article...the author was implementing the state of art at the time, so he should know if VoIP patents obvious at the time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The people who made real advances generally don&#039;t like junk patents.  For example, do you link Lemuelson&#039;s patents were junk or real advances?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stevie G,</p>
<p>Try reading the article&#8230;the author was implementing the state of art at the time, so he should know if VoIP patents obvious at the time.</p>
<p>The people who made real advances generally don&#8217;t like junk patents.  For example, do you link Lemuelson&#8217;s patents were junk or real advances?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve G.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140982</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Ronald,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;e=mc^2 is a formula based on an observation of natural occurring phenomena. Such stuff is not patentable, and has never been patentable. The definition was described in the early 1970&#039;s as &quot;anything under the sun made by man&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for VoIP patents, read the claims to figure out what they&#039;re trying to cover. The title won&#039;t tell you. The abstract won&#039;t tell you. The claims will.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronald,</p>
<p>e=mc^2 is a formula based on an observation of natural occurring phenomena. Such stuff is not patentable, and has never been patentable. The definition was described in the early 1970&#8242;s as &#8220;anything under the sun made by man&#8221;.</p>
<p>As for VoIP patents, read the claims to figure out what they&#8217;re trying to cover. The title won&#8217;t tell you. The abstract won&#8217;t tell you. The claims will.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Henry</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140981</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Henry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The brief history of trying to supress VoIP includes many of the world&#039;s PTTs.  Early VoIP implementations in the Pacific Rim were quietly withdrawn from the market when word came forth that your peering router might become mis-configured.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Verizon is also in the company of these monopolists and also dozens of strong man dictators who value their $12/minute tarrifs for voice calls back to EU and US.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The brief history of trying to supress VoIP includes many of the world&#8217;s PTTs.  Early VoIP implementations in the Pacific Rim were quietly withdrawn from the market when word came forth that your peering router might become mis-configured.</p>
<p>Verizon is also in the company of these monopolists and also dozens of strong man dictators who value their $12/minute tarrifs for voice calls back to EU and US.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Whiteley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140976</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Whiteley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Excellent!  You could add two other concepts that help create &quot;junk&quot; patents.  Combining two obvious ideas to create an unique and therefore patentable one and the ability to extend the original filing date.   Put this all together and apply it to software and you get the mess we have.  Over 2000 VoIP patents is absurd.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Does anybody know why Verizon is becoming a &quot;Patent Troll&quot;?  Do they really think they will stop VoIP?  It is going to become a PR nightmare for them.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent!  You could add two other concepts that help create &#8220;junk&#8221; patents.  Combining two obvious ideas to create an unique and therefore patentable one and the ability to extend the original filing date.   Put this all together and apply it to software and you get the mess we have.  Over 2000 VoIP patents is absurd.</p>
<p>Does anybody know why Verizon is becoming a &#8220;Patent Troll&#8221;?  Do they really think they will stop VoIP?  It is going to become a PR nightmare for them.</p>
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		<title>By: ronald</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140978</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ronald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Steve, would you ably for a patent for e=mc^2 at it&#039;s time of origin? How much damage would have occurred to modern physics if universities would have patented everything under the Sun at that time?
Oh btw, Math is a description language you don&#039;t invent anything in math.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, would you ably for a patent for e=mc^2 at it&#8217;s time of origin? How much damage would have occurred to modern physics if universities would have patented everything under the Sun at that time?<br />
Oh btw, Math is a description language you don&#8217;t invent anything in math.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew Clark</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/08/voip-patent-mess/#comment-140977</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drew Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Daniel,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the post. Can you point me to a lawsuit at issue here:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They would have been unpatentable as little more than mathematical algorithms until lawsuits overruled the patent office’s distaste for method patents in 1999.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>
<p>Thanks for the post. Can you point me to a lawsuit at issue here:</p>
<p>They would have been unpatentable as little more than mathematical algorithms until lawsuits overruled the patent office’s distaste for method patents in 1999.</p>
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