Comments on: Web 2.0: End of Innocence http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:47:41 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Alexa Attempts to Crush Statsaholic After Copying Its Advances | StepForth Web Marketing Inc. http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-982968 Alexa Attempts to Crush Statsaholic After Copying Its Advances | StepForth Web Marketing Inc. Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:54:26 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-982968 <p>[...] Om Malik calls this case a part of the “End of Innocence” of Web 2.0 as companies like Google and Amazon begin to reaffirm control over their information after letting Web 2.0 API users innovate for them. [...]</p> [...] Om Malik calls this case a part of the “End of Innocence” of Web 2.0 as companies like Google and Amazon begin to reaffirm control over their information after letting Web 2.0 API users innovate for them. [...]

]]> By: A double whammy for schools: the result of our finacial crisis « Regular Joe http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-921364 A double whammy for schools: the result of our finacial crisis « Regular Joe Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:24:22 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-921364 <p>[...]  Another service, co.comments ended.  And some other bloggers have picked up on this as well: end of Innocence, death of [...]</p> [...]  Another service, co.comments ended.  And some other bloggers have picked up on this as well: end of Innocence, death of [...]

]]> By: Web 2.0 - Grim Reaper Arrives for Thee? http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-237589 Web 2.0 - Grim Reaper Arrives for Thee? Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:11:31 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-237589 <p>[...] David Galbraith’s blog and Om Malik’s GigaOm, the death of Web 2.0, apparently, has [...]</p> [...] David Galbraith’s blog and Om Malik’s GigaOm, the death of Web 2.0, apparently, has [...]

]]> By: fresh wordpress installation » Complacency and Web 2.0 http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95693 fresh wordpress installation » Complacency and Web 2.0 Tue, 24 Apr 2007 19:47:35 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95693 <p>[...] Malik did a posting late last week on “Web 2.0: The End of Innocence” which nicely summarized some of these early signals: The Web 2.0 story so far has been about taking [...]</p> [...] Malik did a posting late last week on “Web 2.0: The End of Innocence” which nicely summarized some of these early signals: The Web 2.0 story so far has been about taking [...]

]]> By: Deep Jive Interests » The Age of Innocence Is Over. Let The Age of Petty, Spiteful Tyrants Begin! http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95692 Deep Jive Interests » The Age of Innocence Is Over. Let The Age of Petty, Spiteful Tyrants Begin! Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:36:06 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95692 <p>[...] tyrant in the wake of the Statsaholic/ Jeff Hornbaker lawsuit. Om Malik declared the web2.0 Age of Innocence over when Google Maps decided to cherry pick some some great ideas as it made its API open and [...]</p> [...] tyrant in the wake of the Statsaholic/ Jeff Hornbaker lawsuit. Om Malik declared the web2.0 Age of Innocence over when Google Maps decided to cherry pick some some great ideas as it made its API open and [...]

]]> By: Bob Jacobson http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95691 Bob Jacobson Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:34:43 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95691 <p>The industrial strategy of large organizations using small players to develop necessary elements in a value chain, and then harvesting these developments before the challengers can gain financial stability, is as old as the hills.</p> <p>What's surprising is that anyone is surprised at the manifestation of this strategy in our times, or its consequences -- richer hegemonists.</p> <p>I wonder what it must be like to be a modern-day tinkerer generating solutions with potential value, now knowing full well that it's likely the value is going to be absconded with by some dominant industrial power. I imagine that the drive to invent is irresistible for some, and that they'll take their small wages and be happy after the denouement, just to keep working.</p> <p>Others may see this as one big crap shoot, worth the effort to play even though the odds are ridiculous. The press hype promoting MySpace, YouTube, Facebook, etc., as models for the future of commerce may not have been orchestrated, but it's certainly done its part to enable these tech-gamble junkies.</p> <p>The Internet is a big place. There are many, many ways to exploit its potential besides redundant development -- in the sense of doing what everyone else is doing, purpose and content notwithstanding. A tad more real originality and less mimicry would suit the situation just fine. Forget "Web 2.0" and start thinking again of what's missing in most people's lives. It's probably not mashups.</p> The industrial strategy of large organizations using small players to develop necessary elements in a value chain, and then harvesting these developments before the challengers can gain financial stability, is as old as the hills.

What’s surprising is that anyone is surprised at the manifestation of this strategy in our times, or its consequences — richer hegemonists.

I wonder what it must be like to be a modern-day tinkerer generating solutions with potential value, now knowing full well that it’s likely the value is going to be absconded with by some dominant industrial power. I imagine that the drive to invent is irresistible for some, and that they’ll take their small wages and be happy after the denouement, just to keep working.

Others may see this as one big crap shoot, worth the effort to play even though the odds are ridiculous. The press hype promoting MySpace, YouTube, Facebook, etc., as models for the future of commerce may not have been orchestrated, but it’s certainly done its part to enable these tech-gamble junkies.

The Internet is a big place. There are many, many ways to exploit its potential besides redundant development — in the sense of doing what everyone else is doing, purpose and content notwithstanding. A tad more real originality and less mimicry would suit the situation just fine. Forget “Web 2.0″ and start thinking again of what’s missing in most people’s lives. It’s probably not mashups.

]]> By: Clyde Smith http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95690 Clyde Smith Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:49:33 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95690 <p>"The Web 2.0 conference held in San Francisco in Fall 2006 was its Woodstock."</p> <p>Which begs the question: What will be its Altamont?</p> “The Web 2.0 conference held in San Francisco in Fall 2006 was its Woodstock.”

Which begs the question: What will be its Altamont?

]]> By: Complacency and Web 2.0 http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95689 Complacency and Web 2.0 Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:32:41 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95689 <p>. . . A number of recent events suggest a potentially significant evolution of Web 2.0 from a business perspective. Those who fail to notice these early signals may find themselves sidelined as Web 2.0 continues to unfold.</p> <p>Om Malik did a posting late last week on “Web 2.0: The End of Innocence” which nicely summarized some of these early signals . . .</p> . . . A number of recent events suggest a potentially significant evolution of Web 2.0 from a business perspective. Those who fail to notice these early signals may find themselves sidelined as Web 2.0 continues to unfold.

Om Malik did a posting late last week on “Web 2.0: The End of Innocence” which nicely summarized some of these early signals . . .

]]> By: dailywireless.org » Mapping Goes Live http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95688 dailywireless.org » Mapping Goes Live Mon, 09 Apr 2007 18:59:01 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95688 <p>[...] This could be potentially devistating to start-ups like Platial. Their blog says: This kind of disruption was inevitable. There is a rapidly growing geospatial web and they have in many ways elevated the importance of it. They haven’t (yet) touched the core of our business model, audience or product path. So, here we go onward (but faster and better). [...]</p> [...] This could be potentially devistating to start-ups like Platial. Their blog says: This kind of disruption was inevitable. There is a rapidly growing geospatial web and they have in many ways elevated the importance of it. They haven’t (yet) touched the core of our business model, audience or product path. So, here we go onward (but faster and better). [...]

]]> By: carlo beccaria - blog / Api si o api no http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95687 carlo beccaria - blog / Api si o api no Mon, 09 Apr 2007 14:34:45 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95687 <p>[...] C’e’ chi ha descritto “my maps” come la fine dell’ innocenza del web2.0 [...]</p> [...] C’e’ chi ha descritto “my maps” come la fine dell’ innocenza del web2.0 [...]

]]> By: Weekly Wrapup: Missed (Internet) Connections Edition : Sexerati: Smart Sex. http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95684 Weekly Wrapup: Missed (Internet) Connections Edition : Sexerati: Smart Sex. Mon, 09 Apr 2007 07:16:16 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95684 <p>[...] no, we didn’t write this one, but it’s hard to believe we didn’t: Om Malik offers this, on why not to declare our affair with Web 2.0 over just yet: The current situation is no different than the dating process. The first few months of flirtation [...]</p> [...] no, we didn’t write this one, but it’s hard to believe we didn’t: Om Malik offers this, on why not to declare our affair with Web 2.0 over just yet: The current situation is no different than the dating process. The first few months of flirtation [...]

]]> By: Nick Hawkins http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95685 Nick Hawkins Mon, 09 Apr 2007 03:23:32 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95685 <p>I am pro-market Darwinism. A lot of these half-assed startups deserve to fail.</p> I am pro-market Darwinism. A lot of these half-assed startups deserve to fail.

]]> By: www.Xabout.com » Tumblr and Twitter Are Disruptive http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95686 www.Xabout.com » Tumblr and Twitter Are Disruptive Sun, 08 Apr 2007 16:41:22 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95686 <p>[...] GigaOM » Web 2.0: End of Innocence [...]</p> [...] GigaOM » Web 2.0: End of Innocence [...]

]]> By: ilyagram » Blog Archive » Mashup 神話的盡頭 http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95682 ilyagram » Blog Archive » Mashup 神話的盡頭 Sun, 08 Apr 2007 08:08:25 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95682 <p>[...] Malik）說，這是 Web 2.0 天真無知時代的結束（“Web 2.0: End of Innocence”）；有人（David Galbraith）說是 Web 2.0 已死（“The Day Web 2.0 [...]</p> [...] Malik）說，這是 Web 2.0 天真無知時代的結束（“Web 2.0: End of Innocence”）；有人（David Galbraith）說是 Web 2.0 已死（“The Day Web 2.0 [...]

]]> By: Brian Laks http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95683 Brian Laks Sat, 07 Apr 2007 17:34:18 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95683 <p>maybe the little guy should stop complaining and "get the hell out of the kitchen". i personally feel a little overwhelmed by all these kitschy catchy 2.0 wannnabes that are trying to oversaturate an already oversaturated market with a small twist on one of the bigboy services.</p> <p>damn right google is going to take what works and put the innovators out of business.. it's the walmart effect, and sorry if i don't have much sympathy for the mom-and-pop startups that feel the heat. in fact, i am now going to purposely strive to make my sites as 1.0 as possible... maybe 0.1 ... i'd like to see a return to yahoo '96 design style.. white page, text, a couple of links, and a whole lot of br tags. before they got all high tech with forms and colors and whatnot. ah, those were simpler times, weren't they? i miss that humble beauty... "give me five tags and notepad, and i will conquer the world" -anonymous hero</p> maybe the little guy should stop complaining and “get the hell out of the kitchen”. i personally feel a little overwhelmed by all these kitschy catchy 2.0 wannnabes that are trying to oversaturate an already oversaturated market with a small twist on one of the bigboy services.

damn right google is going to take what works and put the innovators out of business.. it’s the walmart effect, and sorry if i don’t have much sympathy for the mom-and-pop startups that feel the heat. in fact, i am now going to purposely strive to make my sites as 1.0 as possible… maybe 0.1 … i’d like to see a return to yahoo ‘96 design style.. white page, text, a couple of links, and a whole lot of br tags. before they got all high tech with forms and colors and whatnot. ah, those were simpler times, weren’t they? i miss that humble beauty… “give me five tags and notepad, and i will conquer the world” -anonymous hero

]]> By: morfeus http://gigaom.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95681 morfeus Sat, 07 Apr 2007 09:42:05 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/web-20-end-of-innocence/#comment-95681 <p>Google should have gone ahead and advised people against developing businesses around its web services. The people who went ahead and assumed that Google would never do anything to harm them did base a lot of their assumption on the 'unevil' and 'a different company', myth. This awakens people to the truth that a company is a company and is there for making money and not for public service. Guess the days of being unevil evaporated with the IPO.</p> Google should have gone ahead and advised people against developing businesses around its web services. The people who went ahead and assumed that Google would never do anything to harm them did base a lot of their assumption on the ‘unevil’ and ‘a different company’, myth. This awakens people to the truth that a company is a company and is there for making money and not for public service. Guess the days of being unevil evaporated with the IPO.

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