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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/04/the-vonage-voip-inc-deal-mess/#comment-94444</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A free market dictates that the weak will not survive. So.....die Vonage die !&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A free market dictates that the weak will not survive. So&#8230;..die Vonage die !</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mort</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/04/the-vonage-voip-inc-deal-mess/#comment-94443</link>
		<dc:creator>mort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 04:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Malik..voip inc and vonage almost a year are kind of testing and working on recent partnership.this vonage/verzine mess has nothing to do with their partnership.
now if voip inc patents comes to help vonage that&#039;s plus for both...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malik..voip inc and vonage almost a year are kind of testing and working on recent partnership.this vonage/verzine mess has nothing to do with their partnership.
now if voip inc patents comes to help vonage that&#8217;s plus for both&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/04/the-vonage-voip-inc-deal-mess/#comment-94441</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Guys,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We just updated the story, and have a patent analysis coming soon, though not as instantly as i would have liked.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys,</p>

<p>We just updated the story, and have a patent analysis coming soon, though not as instantly as i would have liked.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sandman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/04/the-vonage-voip-inc-deal-mess/#comment-94438</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;steve,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Vonage Infringed:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;d=PALL&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;s1=6282574.PN.&amp;OS=PN/6282574&amp;RS=PN/6282574&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Patent #6,282,574&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;d=PALL&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;s1=6104711.PN.&amp;OS=PN/6104711&amp;RS=PN/6104711&quot;&gt;Patent #6,104,711&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Vonage Infringed, although not willfully:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;d=PALL&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;s1=6359880.PN.&amp;OS=PN/6359880&amp;RS=PN/6359880&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Patent #6,359,880&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Far be it for me to try and apply patent law to these, but these links should get you a little further on digging into the details.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>steve,</p>

<p>Vonage Infringed:</p>

<p><a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;d=PALL&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;s1=6282574.PN.&amp;OS=PN/6282574&amp;RS=PN/6282574" rel="nofollow">Patent #6,282,574</a>:</p>

<p><a href="
<a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;d=PALL&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;s1=6104711.PN.&amp;OS=PN/6104711&amp;RS=PN/6104711" rel="nofollow">http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;d=PALL&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;s1=6104711.PN.&amp;OS=PN/6104711&amp;RS=PN/6104711</a>&#8220;>Patent #6,104,711:</p>

<p>Vonage Infringed, although not willfully:</p>

<p><a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&amp;Sect2=HITOFF&amp;d=PALL&amp;p=1&amp;u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&amp;r=1&amp;f=G&amp;l=50&amp;s1=6359880.PN.&amp;OS=PN/6359880&amp;RS=PN/6359880" rel="nofollow">Patent #6,359,880</a>:</p>

<p>Far be it for me to try and apply patent law to these, but these links should get you a little further on digging into the details.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/04/the-vonage-voip-inc-deal-mess/#comment-94442</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 14:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Or Vonage could be spreading FUD. It&#039;s happened before.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or Vonage could be spreading FUD. It&#8217;s happened before.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ramzes</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/04/the-vonage-voip-inc-deal-mess/#comment-94436</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramzes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 05:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hmm, interesting. If they indeed merge I&#039;ll need to remember to change their adds displayed :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, interesting. If they indeed merge I&#8217;ll need to remember to change their adds displayed :-)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: steve gelmis</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/04/the-vonage-voip-inc-deal-mess/#comment-94437</link>
		<dc:creator>steve gelmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 03:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Om,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While you are in a self-flagellating mood, I will avail myself of the opportunity to press you for some reporting which has been missing from every account I&#039;ve seen on this story so far.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There has been no actual technical explanation of what the 3 patents cover and what specific aspects of Vonage&#039;s operations are deemed to violate them. Is that because it would be too geeky to be considered reporting? Do the reporters not understand it themselves? Does it require too much time to get the details?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The reporting has all referred vaguely to something about the &#039;method of interconnecting with the PSTN&#039; for two of the patents, and about voicemail for the third.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Leaving voicemail aside for the moment, doesn&#039;t Vonage use a softswitch + off-the-shelf media gateways to interconnect with the PSTN? (What other options are there?) Doesn&#039;t that make every other VOIP carrier guilty of the same infringement as well? Where are the manufacturers of this equipment in this case? Don&#039;t they have an interest in defending their customers, or at least challenging the patents with the PTO?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om,</p>

<p>While you are in a self-flagellating mood, I will avail myself of the opportunity to press you for some reporting which has been missing from every account I&#8217;ve seen on this story so far.</p>

<p>There has been no actual technical explanation of what the 3 patents cover and what specific aspects of Vonage&#8217;s operations are deemed to violate them. Is that because it would be too geeky to be considered reporting? Do the reporters not understand it themselves? Does it require too much time to get the details?</p>

<p>The reporting has all referred vaguely to something about the &#8216;method of interconnecting with the PSTN&#8217; for two of the patents, and about voicemail for the third.</p>

<p>Leaving voicemail aside for the moment, doesn&#8217;t Vonage use a softswitch + off-the-shelf media gateways to interconnect with the PSTN? (What other options are there?) Doesn&#8217;t that make every other VOIP carrier guilty of the same infringement as well? Where are the manufacturers of this equipment in this case? Don&#8217;t they have an interest in defending their customers, or at least challenging the patents with the PTO?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: The Vonage &#38; VoIP Inc. deal mess &#124; voip.thephonedog.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/04/the-vonage-voip-inc-deal-mess/#comment-94435</link>
		<dc:creator>The Vonage &#38; VoIP Inc. deal mess &#124; voip.thephonedog.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] post by Om Malik and software by Elliott [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] post by Om Malik and software by Elliott [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/04/the-vonage-voip-inc-deal-mess/#comment-94439</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes Tammy, you are right. i missed a line there. anyway fixed and updated right now!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Tammy, you are right. i missed a line there. anyway fixed and updated right now!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tammy Snook</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/04/04/the-vonage-voip-inc-deal-mess/#comment-94440</link>
		<dc:creator>Tammy Snook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your latest blog entry that apologizes for less-than-mediocre reporting cites,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;A few vigilant readers wrote in and prompted us to further investigate &#039;VoIP Inc.’s claims.&#039;&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There weren&#039;t any claims from VoIP, Inc. related to pending litigation between Vonage and Verizon....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You might want to revise your blog so that it&#039;s accurate.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your latest blog entry that apologizes for less-than-mediocre reporting cites,</p>

<p>&#8220;A few vigilant readers wrote in and prompted us to further investigate &#8216;VoIP Inc.’s claims.&#8217;&#8221;</p>

<p>There weren&#8217;t any claims from VoIP, Inc. related to pending litigation between Vonage and Verizon&#8230;.</p>

<p>You might want to revise your blog so that it&#8217;s accurate.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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