Comments on: Will Skype save Nokia Internet Tablets? http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:24:19 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Skype Is Coming to the Nokia N900 http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-979262 Skype Is Coming to the Nokia N900 Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:12:09 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-979262 [...] multitasking phone-puter. Skype launched a version of its client for the Maemo platform in 2007. The Nokia N800 was the only device that supported Skype at the [...] [...] multitasking phone-puter. Skype launched a version of its client for the Maemo platform in 2007. The Nokia N800 was the only device that supported Skype at the [...]

]]> By: Skype for Nokia N800 Available : voiceontheweb.biz http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-903330 Skype for Nokia N800 Available : voiceontheweb.biz Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:59:10 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-903330 [...] in March Om wrote a post on why he feels Skype is so important for this device. And it certainly was seen to be an obvious addition when I first reviewed the N800 [...] [...] in March Om wrote a post on why he feels Skype is so important for this device. And it certainly was seen to be an obvious addition when I first reviewed the N800 [...]

]]> By: George http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-884429 George Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:09:05 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-884429 lets see now, Skype phones have been available in Europe for quite some time ( granted that you had to get service from 3 ) and Skype plans to introduce a version for quite a few devices and make the availability of Skype non vendor specific. Oh and Sony also added Skype to PSP. Yes you need to have a wifi connection in order for the PSP to work but you have to have that for the Nokia beasts as well. You do not need to be around an access point for the 3 ( the provider ) skype service to work. So will Skype save a product that was dead even at it's launch time? Most certainly not. A tablet phone is deader than a PDA in today's market and Nokia should have know that. And Linux on top of that? When the majority of the smart phone market uses Symbian and there is a boatload of well tested corporate grade software available for it Nokia introduces a linux based tablet. Come on at least learn from the experiences of others. Sharp fought that battle for quite a few years with very little success. What makes Nokia think that they are any better than Sharp was? At least the Zaurus made it to retail chains. Don't get me wrong I all for innovation but Nokia is slipping in their old age. Yes linux is great and all but those tablets do the same thing than an iPhone does, cost as much ( if not even more ) and will cost considerably more when iPhone 2.0 comes out. Have less functionality and oh they weight a ton compared to any other cellular device. No matter what spin you put on it it's a dead man walking. lets see now, Skype phones have been available in Europe for quite some time ( granted that you had to get service from 3 ) and Skype plans to introduce a version for quite a few devices and make the availability of Skype non vendor specific. Oh and Sony also added Skype to PSP. Yes you need to have a wifi connection in order for the PSP to work but you have to have that for the Nokia beasts as well. You do not need to be around an access point for the 3 ( the provider ) skype service to work. So will Skype save a product that was dead even at it’s launch time? Most certainly not. A tablet phone is deader than a PDA in today’s market and Nokia should have know that. And Linux on top of that? When the majority of the smart phone market uses Symbian and there is a boatload of well tested corporate grade software available for it Nokia introduces a linux based tablet. Come on at least learn from the experiences of others. Sharp fought that battle for quite a few years with very little success. What makes Nokia think that they are any better than Sharp was? At least the Zaurus made it to retail chains.

Don’t get me wrong I all for innovation but Nokia is slipping in their old age. Yes linux is great and all but those tablets do the same thing than an iPhone does, cost as much ( if not even more ) and will cost considerably more when iPhone 2.0 comes out. Have less functionality and oh they weight a ton compared to any other cellular device. No matter what spin you put on it it’s a dead man walking.

]]> By: All output and no inputs? « raaya http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-436050 All output and no inputs? « raaya Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:39:09 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-436050 <p>[...] are contemplating whether the lack of a voice capability will impact the adoption of the device (Gigaom) ; Nokia is betting big on web based communication. And with wi-fi networks springing all over the [...]</p> [...] are contemplating whether the lack of a voice capability will impact the adoption of the device (Gigaom) ; Nokia is betting big on web based communication. And with wi-fi networks springing all over the [...]

]]> By: GigaOM Nokia N800 does what iPhone doesn’t « http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-314569 GigaOM Nokia N800 does what iPhone doesn’t « Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:10:25 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-314569 <p>[...] for Skype. (My post about how important Skype is for Nokia [...]</p> [...] for Skype. (My post about how important Skype is for Nokia [...]

]]> By: Roger Sperberg http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-280384 Roger Sperberg Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:10:27 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-280384 <p>Do you use Gizmo to make calls from your Internet Tablet to landlines?</p> <p>Since I should be able to call anybody this way, I guess I have two extra lines now I never thought about . . .</p> <p>Thanks!</p> <p>Roger</p> Do you use Gizmo to make calls from your Internet Tablet to landlines?

Since I should be able to call anybody this way, I guess I have two extra lines now I never thought about . . .

Thanks!

Roger

]]> By: Steve McCormick http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93595 Steve McCormick Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:52:38 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93595 <p>The N800 meets/exceeds most of my expectations so far, unencumbered as it is by bulky buggy Microsoft mediocrity, with the glaring exception of lacking a high-end PDA function. I need to get rid of my beloved Psion Revo(s) due to dying/dead batteries. I am spoiled by the Revo's superior PDA performance, capacity and flexibility, and crave EPOC emulation in the N800 so I can transfer and run my massive Revo data and agenda applications to it.</p> The N800 meets/exceeds most of my expectations so far, unencumbered as it is by bulky buggy Microsoft mediocrity, with the glaring exception of lacking a high-end PDA function. I need to get rid of my beloved Psion Revo(s) due to dying/dead batteries. I am spoiled by the Revo’s superior PDA performance, capacity and flexibility, and crave EPOC emulation in the N800 so I can transfer and run my massive Revo data and agenda applications to it.

]]> By: david http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93594 david Thu, 05 Apr 2007 19:42:09 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93594 <p>hi, i've heard that there is now a mini version of firefox called minimo for the n800 that works with google docs. check out all the third party apps at maemo.org</p> hi, i’ve heard that there is now a mini version of firefox called minimo for the n800 that works with google docs. check out all the third party apps at maemo.org

]]> By: Roman Stanek http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93593 Roman Stanek Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:00:02 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93593 <p>I am a happy owner of N800 and I don't think I need a PDA apps. I am happy with Gmail and Gizmo. What I believe is missing in the picture of Internet Tablet is support for Google Docs. Being able to store and remotely edit my files is in my view the main attraction of an Internet Tablet.</p> I am a happy owner of N800 and I don’t think I need a PDA apps. I am happy with Gmail and Gizmo. What I believe is missing in the picture of Internet Tablet is support for Google Docs. Being able to store and remotely edit my files is in my view the main attraction of an Internet Tablet.

]]> By: GigaOM » Earthlink: Free MuniFi with Nokia N800 http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93592 GigaOM » Earthlink: Free MuniFi with Nokia N800 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:47:57 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93592 <p>[...] company is looking to raise awareness of the service. The response to Nokia’s N800 in the U.S. hasn’t been too overly enthusiastic, so Nokia can use more marketing too. We don’t know all the details of the promotion, and [...]</p> [...] company is looking to raise awareness of the service. The response to Nokia’s N800 in the U.S. hasn’t been too overly enthusiastic, so Nokia can use more marketing too. We don’t know all the details of the promotion, and [...]

]]> By: Richard Garrett http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93591 Richard Garrett Sun, 25 Mar 2007 00:55:43 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93591 <p>Since the N800 and Internet Tablets do nothing better than anything else, I believe they have to do everything "well enough" to earn a purchase. For example, the unit has a nice screen and the web browser zooms to 120%, but anyone over 40 years of age is still going to need reading glasses. The MP3 player doesn't have enough volume and no EQ. Its impossible to access AOL; YouTube is dicey at best. And a Palm PDA still manages contacts and calendars better than anything else. While its size is appealing at first glance, in practice the device is still too big and seems too fragile. So, if available, a user is always going to grab and use a superior device. Nevertheless, if the N800 can reduce device clutter by being adequate and reliable for many purposes, it will be a desireable acquisition. So, it must do VOIP, it must have a useful browser, it must have a decent camera, it must do common email systems, it must have a calendar and contact manager. And it must somehow leverage its code-head appeal to a broader audience.</p> Since the N800 and Internet Tablets do nothing better than anything else, I believe they have to do everything “well enough” to earn a purchase. For example, the unit has a nice screen and the web browser zooms to 120%, but anyone over 40 years of age is still going to need reading glasses. The MP3 player doesn’t have enough volume and no EQ. Its impossible to access AOL; YouTube is dicey at best. And a Palm PDA still manages contacts and calendars better than anything else. While its size is appealing at first glance, in practice the device is still too big and seems too fragile. So, if available, a user is always going to grab and use a superior device.
Nevertheless, if the N800 can reduce device clutter by being adequate and reliable for many purposes, it will be a desireable acquisition.
So, it must do VOIP, it must have a useful browser, it must have a decent camera, it must do common email systems, it must have a calendar and contact manager.
And it must somehow leverage its code-head appeal to a broader audience.

]]> By: Bob Hodgen http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93589 Bob Hodgen Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:10:28 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93589 <p>I don't see the n800 as a pda. It's an "internet appliance." It's strength is accessing the web, your email, and web based apps like RSS feeds and chat.</p> <p>Nokia is ahead of the curve on this. Look at laptop sales vs. desktop. Then look at "tablet" sales lately: they're slow but picking up steam. Project this trend into the future and we'll all be toting some kind of converged phone/internet appliance.</p> <p>The N800 works with my palm Treo and bluetooth DUN. It's got a much better screen than my Treo and free linux apps like Maemo Mapper that work great with bluetooth GPS.</p> <p>Will the iPhone do RSS? GPS? The N800 does right now!</p> <p>It's not perfect, but the 800 X 480 screen is really great for browsing at EVDO speed.. . . .</p> <p>Bob</p> I don’t see the n800 as a pda. It’s an “internet appliance.” It’s strength is accessing the web, your email, and web based apps like RSS feeds and chat.

Nokia is ahead of the curve on this. Look at laptop sales vs. desktop. Then look at “tablet” sales lately: they’re slow but picking up steam. Project this trend into the future and we’ll all be toting some kind of converged phone/internet appliance.

The N800 works with my palm Treo and bluetooth DUN. It’s got a much better screen than my Treo and free linux apps like Maemo Mapper that work great with bluetooth GPS.

Will the iPhone do RSS? GPS? The N800 does right now!

It’s not perfect, but the 800 X 480 screen is really great for browsing at EVDO speed.. . . .

Bob

]]> By: Dan Rabin http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93590 Dan Rabin Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:55:42 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93590 <p>As the owner of a Nokia N800, I can testify that there are two things that would make me vastly more satisfied with my purchase, and neither one is a VOIP service.</p> <p>First, the wonderful little hardware box needs a PDA software suite. It doesn't matter how much Nokia insists that it's a communication device and not an organizer: if it quacks like a PDA and sits in my pocket like a PDA, it had better be a PDA.</p> <p>Second, and not Nokia's fault, we need a public wireless system (I'm in the USA) that works. Even here in Palo Alto, California I frequently can't find an open router. I'd be glad to pay utility rates for such access, but I don't want any carrier/device lockin (and Nokia shouldn't either).</p> <p>The N800'sj screen is wonderful, with higher resolution and surface area than the advance spec for the iPhone, which is clearly going to clobber everything in its way. Apple has stated an intention to have the usual PDA app suite; they've partnered with a carrier as the pragmatic way to assure connectivity, and the software appears to be attractive and usable, while the Nokia's is neither.</p> <p>Oh well.</p> As the owner of a Nokia N800, I can testify that there are two things that would make me vastly more satisfied with my purchase, and neither one is a VOIP service.

First, the wonderful little hardware box needs a PDA software suite. It doesn’t matter how much Nokia insists that it’s a communication device and not an organizer: if it quacks like a PDA and sits in my pocket like a PDA, it had better be a PDA.

Second, and not Nokia’s fault, we need a public wireless system (I’m in the USA) that works. Even here in Palo Alto, California I frequently can’t find an open router. I’d be glad to pay utility rates for such access, but I don’t want any carrier/device lockin (and Nokia shouldn’t either).

The N800’sj screen is wonderful, with higher resolution and surface area than the advance spec for the iPhone, which is clearly going to clobber everything in its way. Apple has stated an intention to have the usual PDA app suite; they’ve partnered with a carrier as the pragmatic way to assure connectivity, and the software appears to be attractive and usable, while the Nokia’s is neither.

Oh well.

]]> By: Victor Blake http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93588 Victor Blake Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:15:23 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93588 <p>Agreed UMPC is also too big for cell and too little for PC (I just can't see that wel and can't point that precisely). Thus for me (and many others) a laptop, a tablet, and win mobile cell phone phone (all 3 together) fill most functions.</p> <p>Like cars, one size will never fit all.</p> Agreed UMPC is also too big for cell and too little for PC (I just can’t see that wel and can’t point that precisely). Thus for me (and many others) a laptop, a tablet, and win mobile cell phone phone (all 3 together) fill most functions.

Like cars, one size will never fit all.

]]> By: Jassim Ali http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93587 Jassim Ali Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:17:06 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93587 <p>Maybe what they need will be a meebo like multiplatform VOIP solution which brings lets people on skype,Gtalk,Yahoo voice etc and even IM platforms which dont support voice.</p> <p>and thats what will make the device more useful.</p> Maybe what they need will be a meebo like multiplatform VOIP solution which brings lets people on skype,Gtalk,Yahoo voice etc and even IM platforms which dont support voice.

and thats what will make the device more useful.

]]> By: mieses http://gigaom.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93586 mieses Thu, 22 Mar 2007 01:59:02 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/nokia-n800/#comment-93586 <p>If Nokia releases a WiMax tablet, they will likely stop supporting development on the N800.</p> <p>Nokia abandons these tablets after about 16 months, a very short cycle.</p> <p>The 770 was abandoned with the release of the IT2007 OS. Under criticism, Nokia released a non-working version of IT2007 for the 770, leaving the community to sort out the details. It's another disappointing example of commercial open source.</p> If Nokia releases a WiMax tablet, they will likely stop supporting development on the N800.

Nokia abandons these tablets after about 16 months, a very short cycle.

The 770 was abandoned with the release of the IT2007 OS. Under criticism, Nokia released a non-working version of IT2007 for the 770, leaving the community to sort out the details. It’s another disappointing example of commercial open source.

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