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Google, Yahoo, and eBay may not see eye to eye with each other, but when it comes to broadband access, they all agree that the future is too much in control of the incumbents who can squeeze them dry. It is one of the reasons the […]

Google, Yahoo, and eBay may not see eye to eye with each other, but when it comes to broadband access, they all agree that the future is too much in control of the incumbents who can squeeze them dry.

It is one of the reasons the three heavyweights, plus Intel, have teamed up with satellite carriers EchoStar and DirecTV to lobby the FCC about how the 700 MHz wireless spectrum auction is held, according to a research note published by UBS Research this morning.

The 700 MHz slice of the spectrum is apparently pretty good to offer broadband, since it can penetrate walls and other obstacles. The spectrum is currently in the hands of analog TV operators and US government is looking to get it back. All Analog TV stations have up to February 19, 2009 to go digital or go dark. Multichannel News speculates that this slice of spectrum could bring in about $10 billion but when they are done with the whole 60 MHz slice, the total could tip $30 billion. Of course, the broadcasters are crying foul and saying – what about those analog TV owners … yada yada yada!

“This coalition does not mean these companies will actually bid, but that they want a say on how the auction will run,” says Ben Schachter, Internet analyst with UBS Research. Google, ahead of last year’s AWS auctions was rumored to be bidding for the spectrum but in the end it never did.

These are content companies with no control of the pipe into the consumer homes – scary prospect if the network neutrality concerns do come to pass. Satellite providers desperately need IP pipes if they need to stay competitive with the interactive services such as Video on Demand from cable television and IPTV offerings being planned by the telecom operators.

“’Network-less’ content aggregators (Yahoo, Google) and online transaction companies (EBay) have been concerned about potential last mile toll for the customer to access their services,” writes UBS Global media Strategist Matt Coppet in a note to the UBS clients this morning. “for the coalition providers, the only way to protect their unencumbered access to the consumer could be to build a third data own network.”

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  1. Om,
    Link posted about this announcement at Verizon’s PolicyBlog earlier this week — and addresses its impact on NN, too.

    Link concludes his post: “Whether any of these projects work out in the rough and tumble of the market, they clearly provide further evidence that the broadband market is competitive . . . and make it even more apparent that net neutrality regulation is a solution in search of a problem.”

    For the whole post: http://policyblog.verizon.com/policyblog/blogs/policyblog/linkhoewing9/247/competition-in-broadband-more-evidence.aspx

  2. Another reason Clearwire is attractive?

  3. And as AT&T is giving Yahoo! the stiff arm.

  4. Anyone wanting to know something about the use of wireless for broadband should have a good look at this report commissioned by our good friends of Ofcom in the UK.

    There is no way one can do real proper broadband in the 700Mhz spectrum. Not even with the whole 60Mhz chunk! Basically it comes down to simpe math. You can do about 2 bits on Herz. 60 million herz equals 120mbit/s. However this is a shared medium and you need channels for up and down. So even if you factor in all kind of cool technical tricks, you’re still stuck with a maximum of 10mbit/s down for 10 households with 2mbit/s up. Just how close do you really want to bring that fibre to the curb. The costs of roll out of a network build in this way are probably higher than that of AT&T’s U-verse offer, which can work over 500 yards and is able to serve alot more houses with one drop point. This might be an interesting technology for use with mobile wireless technology, but one still needs a whole lot of antenna’s, much along the same lines as HSDPA.
    http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/technology/overview/ese/lastmile/ With a tip of the hat to Bill St. Arnaud for pointing me to the report http://billstarnaud.blogspot.com/ And to anyone shouting that developments in technology will save us: Have a good look at the work of Claude Shannon. it’s like saying you can break the speed of light :-)

  5. Nick Hawkins Friday, March 9, 2007

    Competition makes it better for us customers. No wonder the telecos are such jerks.

  6. And I used to think air was free… Maybe if pollution increases there will be a surcharge to breathe. I wouldn’t be surprised if Google “has a say” in how other public policies are designed/implemented.

  7. The Content Providers need the last mile to remain viable (profitable) and they have 2 ways to gain access to the end user.
    1. Wired Access in a partnership with the local Service Provider (Telco or MSO). This could be very profitable for both parties and I think the googles and Yahoos of the world would find a willing party in the 1200 plus Independant Telco who own much of the national last mile.
    2. Wireless Access in a partnership with CellCo or purchase their own Spectrum and contract with local entities to install, operate and maintain this network.

    If the FCC sets up the auction and requires a Regional (SE) bid it will effectively limit who can bid (Big boys only) vs opening it up to Local market coverage.

    The likes of Google already own the Nationwide Backbone (Fiber) and Internet Access piece as well as all the Content so all they need to rule this end to end network is a partnership with the locals. RBOC/Independants and or MSO.

    Jacomo

  8. So Google et al. are going to lobby, but what is their position? That telcos shouldn’t be allowed to bid? The article is frustratingly vague on this point.

  9. GigaOM » White Space, the new Wireless Frontier? Tuesday, March 13, 2007

    [...] driving down prices for consumers and opening up greater access to more content providers. Last week Google,Yahoo eBay, Intel, EchoStar and DirecTV showed their own broadband access ambitions by [...]

  10. GigaOM » 700 MHz Explained in 10 Steps Wednesday, March 14, 2007

    [...] week we reported on the web giants Google, Yahoo and eBay setting aside their differences and joining forces with satellite television [...]

  11. The application providers should stick to their knitting. Things need to change, but these guys are generating “content” on the whitespace debate, not new engineering ideas.

    For example – “The 700 MHz slice of the spectrum is apparently pretty good to offer broadband, since it can penetrate walls and other obstacles.” – this is simply not true. UHF is refracted less by water than higher frequencies, so it is less effected by the moisture in foliage. This is why it is better for ota tv and broadband delivery.

    It is often worse at getting in to the home, especially at short distances, because TV wavelenghts can be wider than metal windows or the new studs used in walls, which block the rf in the same way the mesh on the glass on a microwave stop you from being cooked in your kitchen.

  12. It seems to me like content providers would be wise to support the Frontline proposal given their ambitions. Have they made any strides in this direction other than the coalition for 4G in America?

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  16. Jack Foster Mancilla Monday, July 30, 2007

    I would be willing to contribute my own money to a fund, directly managed by Google, that would help Google buy the spectrum.

    Jack

  17. The fact is, open source internet, coast-to-coast will be a breath of fresh air. The reason google is wanting to do this, is because there is a HUGE market that is being squandered and ruined by telecom giants.
    Have you ever TRIED the wireless internet provided on most phones? It is piecemeal SHIT. They show 0 net neutrality, and prevent people from accessing google’s content. THIS is google’s beef, people CAN’T, on the current system, access their content because the telecom giants do not want them to. These giants are PERFECTLY happy keeping their ‘competition’ so long as it allows them to offer you tight contracts and force you to use THEIR content. 5 dollar ring tones? FUCK THAT. I can get the song for 99 cents on iTunes–on my PC that is, and if google wins the bid, so too on my phone.

    Furthermore, the argument that ‘competition’ would disappear is CRAZY. Basically, the telecom industry is arguing from the broken window fallacy as pointed out by the French economist Frederic Bastiat–a broken window is NOT good, even though it forces people to put more money in the economy. This is because that money would go ELSEWHERE–if the money isn’t being spent on shitty telecom services, it could be spent on OTHER things. Thus, competition for competition’s sake is ridiculous and doesn’t help anyone. The competition would simply shift to another sector (perhaps creation of new phones that don’t use awful proprietary tech?)

    Also, most people seem to forget what this might offer for cell users. MORE MONEY IN YOUR POCKETS. VOIP as used in many home phones is very, very cheap. There is NO reason why we couldn’t use VOIP on next-generation phones on an open-content wireless network. Cheap, international, unlimited calling–sign me the fuck up.

  18. Anything done to improve the telecom market would be a breath of fresh air.

    Art

  19. Technology Translated » Blog Archive » The Google + 700Mhz + Sprint Love Triangle Wednesday, November 14, 2007

    [...] to rip the cellular industry a twain? With Google’s new mobile OS out, talks about a 700Mhz bidding war, and a possible Sprint acquisition rumor, the wireless industry is becoming very [...]

  20. A Very Google 2007: A Look Back – GigaOM Sunday, December 23, 2007

    [...] March 2007: Announces its 700 MHz spectrum plans, taken on Verizon, AT&T. [...]

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