Comments on: Last.fm, Pandora KO-ed by new royalties? http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/ The Business of Technology Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:30:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Pandora Is Both Hiring and Firing - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-905576 Pandora Is Both Hiring and Firing - GigaOM Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:46:01 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-905576 [...] the chance to negotiate royalty payments with copyright holders instead of being socked by the high rates that threatened to eat up most of its [...] [...] the chance to negotiate royalty payments with copyright holders instead of being socked by the high rates that threatened to eat up most of its [...]

]]> By: Idea: Multi-broadcasting | terrainnova.org http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-175469 Idea: Multi-broadcasting | terrainnova.org Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:37:41 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-175469 <p>[...] non-profit uses (I wish I could have a link reference for this!). Similar ventures have achieved profitability (just about) based on, what else? Advertising. So there might still be a glimmer of hope - [...]</p> [...] non-profit uses (I wish I could have a link reference for this!). Similar ventures have achieved profitability (just about) based on, what else? Advertising. So there might still be a glimmer of hope - [...]

]]> By: Bryan http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91500 Bryan Tue, 01 May 2007 15:26:46 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91500 <p>This issue and Net Neutrality seem to run hand in hand. As big corporate media try to play catch up with these new technologies and want to tilt the playing field to favor their business models.</p> This issue and Net Neutrality seem to run hand in hand. As big corporate media try to play catch up with these new technologies and want to tilt the playing field to favor their business models.

]]> By: Last.fm Launches Subscriptions - Surviving the Online Radio Fallout http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91498 Last.fm Launches Subscriptions - Surviving the Online Radio Fallout Mon, 09 Apr 2007 22:02:52 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91498 <p>[...] are a reaction the increased fees being imposed on web radio broadcasters - fees that could kill Pandora, Last.fm and others. Last.fm has a Flickr-like vibe, and I think plenty of users are affluent [...]</p> [...] are a reaction the increased fees being imposed on web radio broadcasters - fees that could kill Pandora, Last.fm and others. Last.fm has a Flickr-like vibe, and I think plenty of users are affluent [...]

]]> By: Media Cool Hunting » Blog Archive » Interesting links from last week http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91496 Media Cool Hunting » Blog Archive » Interesting links from last week Tue, 13 Mar 2007 10:06:24 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91496 <p>[...] GigaOM: Last.fm, Pandora Ko-ed by new royalties? [...]</p> [...] GigaOM: Last.fm, Pandora Ko-ed by new royalties? [...]

]]> By: GigaOM » Air of Despair Permeates Music Social Nets http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91497 GigaOM » Air of Despair Permeates Music Social Nets Mon, 12 Mar 2007 06:12:24 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91497 <p>[...] demeanor fits right in with his musical roots. Lately, his brow is wrinkled in worry, as he ponders over the decision by the U.S. Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) to raise the royalty rates for webcasting music on the [...]</p> [...] demeanor fits right in with his musical roots. Lately, his brow is wrinkled in worry, as he ponders over the decision by the U.S. Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) to raise the royalty rates for webcasting music on the [...]

]]> By: New fee structure would kill Internet radio stations - Vindu’s View from the Valley - A Silicon Valley Perspective on Public Policy, Business and Technology http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91493 New fee structure would kill Internet radio stations - Vindu’s View from the Valley - A Silicon Valley Perspective on Public Policy, Business and Technology Thu, 08 Mar 2007 21:09:37 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91493 <p>[...] large and small (see Slashdot, DailyKos, GigaOm, eHomeUpgrade, Trends in the Living Networks and many more) are in an uproar over the ruling. [...]</p> [...] large and small (see Slashdot, DailyKos, GigaOm, eHomeUpgrade, Trends in the Living Networks and many more) are in an uproar over the ruling. [...]

]]> By: spaceal http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91489 spaceal Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:49:12 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91489 <p>This is why I think services like <a href="http://www.thefilter.com" rel="nofollow"> The Filter </a> will win out - they make interesting 'radio-like' playlists from your own music collection: thus no royalty fees for them.</p> This is why I think services like The Filter will win out - they make interesting ‘radio-like’ playlists from your own music collection: thus no royalty fees for them.

]]> By: the worst game i never played at Ejovi Nuwere http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91495 the worst game i never played at Ejovi Nuwere Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:36:39 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91495 <p>[...] changes in the royalties webcasters must pay to record labels makes me wonder how long the record industry will survive. Its eatings [...]</p> [...] changes in the royalties webcasters must pay to record labels makes me wonder how long the record industry will survive. Its eatings [...]

]]> By: Jordan http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91491 Jordan Wed, 07 Mar 2007 23:51:48 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91491 <p>The problem is - the more free alternatives that emerge, the further cannibalized music revenues become - whether thats through sales or an advertising model. If the rates for automatic streaming are too low, the problem occurs where you have too many internet radio stations popping up because its cheap and easy to do so. Terrestrial radio has barriers to entry that far exceed the barriers to internet radio. I don't think its as cut and dry as it may seem.</p> The problem is - the more free alternatives that emerge, the further cannibalized music revenues become - whether thats through sales or an advertising model. If the rates for automatic streaming are too low, the problem occurs where you have too many internet radio stations popping up because its cheap and easy to do so. Terrestrial radio has barriers to entry that far exceed the barriers to internet radio. I don’t think its as cut and dry as it may seem.

]]> By: Music Interfaces » Blog Archive » New royalties ruling could spell big trouble for Last.fm, Pandora and other music streaming companies http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91494 Music Interfaces » Blog Archive » New royalties ruling could spell big trouble for Last.fm, Pandora and other music streaming companies Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:41:46 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91494 <p>[...] on GigaOm quotes Pandora’s co-founder sounding very worried: “Left unchanged, it’s over for us and [...]</p> [...] on GigaOm quotes Pandora’s co-founder sounding very worried: “Left unchanged, it’s over for us and [...]

]]> By: Zatz Not Funny!»Blog Archive » The Day the Music Died http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91487 Zatz Not Funny!»Blog Archive » The Day the Music Died Wed, 07 Mar 2007 12:07:10 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91487 <p>[...] many people have covered this story, but in case you haven’t seen it here, here or here, the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) has made a significant change in its rate scheme which, [...]</p> [...] many people have covered this story, but in case you haven’t seen it here, here or here, the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) has made a significant change in its rate scheme which, [...]

]]> By: five_whys http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91485 five_whys Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:55:47 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91485 <p>Interesitng thread...</p> <p>Couple of things to think about though: 1. How does the new royalty for webcasters compare to other "music-casters"? Do terrestrial ad based free radio pay similar royalty or not?</p> <ol> <li>why do people think that these "webcasters" will shut down. They will probably shut down commercial free, money free, unlimited, service.. but they will find ad based or some other model to support the audience. Arent these site building some sort of stickyness (built albums, preferences, etc.)?</li> </ol> <p>five_whys</p> Interesitng thread…

Couple of things to think about though:
1. How does the new royalty for webcasters compare to other “music-casters”? Do terrestrial ad based free radio pay similar royalty or not?

  1. why do people think that these “webcasters” will shut down. They will probably shut down commercial free, money free, unlimited, service.. but they will find ad based or some other model to support the audience. Arent these site building some sort of stickyness (built albums, preferences, etc.)?

five_whys

]]> By: Phil Morle: Adventures in Entertainment and Technology http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91484 Phil Morle: Adventures in Entertainment and Technology Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:51:16 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91484 <p><strong>I'm ... Trying... to... Pay... Attention...</strong></p> <p>Chris Saad asks Does Media 2.0 Scale? Well, it doesn't right now that's for sure. I spent the whole morning yesterday pushing through 10 open Firefox tabs that had accumulated over the weekend, Techmeme's latest news on RIAA too-farness,......</p> I’m … Trying… to… Pay… Attention…

Chris Saad asks Does Media 2.0 Scale? Well, it doesn’t right now that’s for sure. I spent the whole morning yesterday pushing through 10 open Firefox tabs that had accumulated over the weekend, Techmeme’s latest news on RIAA too-farness,……

]]> By: 17 Oxen · Did the Copyright Royalty Board just kill Pandora? http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91483 17 Oxen · Did the Copyright Royalty Board just kill Pandora? Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:29:18 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91483 <p>[...] Om Malik points to the new webcasting royalty regime announced by the CRB: Till recently, the royalty rate was about 7/100th of a penny per performance, allowing many small webcasters to thrive and build sizeable audiences. At 14-15 songs per hour, it worked out to about penny an hour – one of the main reasons why Yahoo could offer music-streaming services at affordable prices. [...]</p> [...] Om Malik points to the new webcasting royalty regime announced by the CRB: Till recently, the royalty rate was about 7/100th of a penny per performance, allowing many small webcasters to thrive and build sizeable audiences. At 14-15 songs per hour, it worked out to about penny an hour – one of the main reasons why Yahoo could offer music-streaming services at affordable prices. [...]

]]> By: Mike http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91474 Mike Tue, 06 Mar 2007 19:26:50 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/webcaster-royalty-rates-go-up/#comment-91474 <p>Wow...the whole music industry is stuck in the 90's and scared to let go of their glory days of profits.</p> <p>It's only a matter of time.</p> <p>Micah http://foodforethought.wordpress.com</p> Wow…the whole music industry is stuck in the 90’s and scared to let go of their glory days of profits.

It’s only a matter of time.

Micah
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