Comments on: Line losses & Bells’ Race against time http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:25:55 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Reporters Notebook » Blog Archive » The Empire Strikes Back http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-953319 Reporters Notebook » Blog Archive » The Empire Strikes Back Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:15:35 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-953319 <p>[...] An interesting related question: is Verizon (and the Bells generally) more concerned with VoIP cord cutters or cellular cord cutters? I’d hazard a guess that for now it’s the cable VoIP users that are the biggest concern as a cellular cord cutter would probably not sign up for cable VoIP either. (Malik has an interesting post on the landline/VoIP dynamic here.) [...]</p> [...] An interesting related question: is Verizon (and the Bells generally) more concerned with VoIP cord cutters or cellular cord cutters? I’d hazard a guess that for now it’s the cable VoIP users that are the biggest concern as a cellular cord cutter would probably not sign up for cable VoIP either. (Malik has an interesting post on the landline/VoIP dynamic here.) [...]

]]> By: Ma Bell and Its Vanishing Phone Lines http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-950291 Ma Bell and Its Vanishing Phone Lines Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:16:57 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-950291 <p>[...] a year later, I pointed out that the phone companies would always be in a race against time — the more lines they lost, the less chance they’d have to able to convert their [...]</p> [...] a year later, I pointed out that the phone companies would always be in a race against time — the more lines they lost, the less chance they’d have to able to convert their [...]

]]> By: Telephony’s Tale of The Tape: Shrinking Telecoms http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-933075 Telephony’s Tale of The Tape: Shrinking Telecoms Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:11:22 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-933075 <p>[...] preferably mobile, and preferably from lower cost mobile providers such as Metro PCS and T-Mobile. My belief is that telcos are in a race against time, and these landline losses are their Achilles heel. Every time they lose a relationship with a [...]</p> [...] preferably mobile, and preferably from lower cost mobile providers such as Metro PCS and T-Mobile. My belief is that telcos are in a race against time, and these landline losses are their Achilles heel. Every time they lose a relationship with a [...]

]]> By: Access Line Losses Hurt: Verizon CEO - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-909235 Access Line Losses Hurt: Verizon CEO - GigaOM Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:34:54 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-909235 <p>[...] Malik, Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 10:34 AM PT Comments (0) Over the past few years, I have been saying that for telecom companies, losing access lines while trying to grow the number of [...]</p> [...] Malik, Thursday, October 30, 2008 at 10:34 AM PT Comments (0) Over the past few years, I have been saying that for telecom companies, losing access lines while trying to grow the number of [...]

]]> By: Cutting the Cord « I’m Cellular http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-909005 Cutting the Cord « I’m Cellular Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:37:36 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-909005 <p>[...] loss, having lost 2.9 Million fixed lines over the last year, and that rate is accelerating. The rate of lost lines has hovered around 4 to 5% in the last few years. Surprisingly, mobile operators lose subscribers at this rate as well [...]</p> [...] loss, having lost 2.9 Million fixed lines over the last year, and that rate is accelerating. The rate of lost lines has hovered around 4 to 5% in the last few years. Surprisingly, mobile operators lose subscribers at this rate as well [...]

]]> By: Tough Times Ahead For U.S. Phone Companies? - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-893145 Tough Times Ahead For U.S. Phone Companies? - GigaOM Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:48:52 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-893145 <p>[...] As I’ve said before, the biggest problem for phone companies is that they’re losing voice customers at a rapid clip -– either to cable operators or to wireless. Many believe that uncertainty regarding the economy is making people pick a wireless-only option — a theory supported by robust growth in the wireless additions at Verizon (1.5 million net new subscribers) and AT&T Wireless (1.3 million net new subscribers). [...]</p> [...] As I’ve said before, the biggest problem for phone companies is that they’re losing voice customers at a rapid clip -– either to cable operators or to wireless. Many believe that uncertainty regarding the economy is making people pick a wireless-only option — a theory supported by robust growth in the wireless additions at Verizon (1.5 million net new subscribers) and AT&T Wireless (1.3 million net new subscribers). [...]

]]> By: Global Telcos Plotting a Skype Rival? - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-877084 Global Telcos Plotting a Skype Rival? - GigaOM Tue, 06 May 2008 16:54:17 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-877084 <p>[...] I have noted previously on several occasions, the carriers are in a race against time — these line losses basically make their plans to sell other services such as broadband and [...]</p> [...] I have noted previously on several occasions, the carriers are in a race against time — these line losses basically make their plans to sell other services such as broadband and [...]

]]> By: Verizon DSL Sales Are Stagnating - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-875388 Verizon DSL Sales Are Stagnating - GigaOM Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:32:21 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-875388 <p>[...] like many other carriers is in a race against time: It is critical for the phone companies to keep people talking on their lines if they want to sell [...]</p> [...] like many other carriers is in a race against time: It is critical for the phone companies to keep people talking on their lines if they want to sell [...]

]]> By: Dreaming of Wireless Broadband - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-862620 Dreaming of Wireless Broadband - GigaOM Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:00:16 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-862620 <p>[...] happening as the major players launch unlimited voice plans. Suddenly it becomes moot to have a wireline telephone, and the geographic boundaries that framed a consumer’s telco provider choices are [...]</p> [...] happening as the major players launch unlimited voice plans. Suddenly it becomes moot to have a wireline telephone, and the geographic boundaries that framed a consumer’s telco provider choices are [...]

]]> By: AT&T Boosts Speeds, But it’s a Small U-Verse - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-857865 AT&T Boosts Speeds, But it’s a Small U-Verse - GigaOM Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:00:16 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-857865 <p>[...] The move puts AT&T’s broadband offerings on par with cable, which is currently eating the telcos’ lunch with triple-play services. Sadly, the U-Verse universe is so far available to only 5.5 million [...]</p> [...] The move puts AT&T’s broadband offerings on par with cable, which is currently eating the telcos’ lunch with triple-play services. Sadly, the U-Verse universe is so far available to only 5.5 million [...]

]]> By: Why Wireless Carriers Like Convergence « Connected Home 2 Go http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-90578 Why Wireless Carriers Like Convergence « Connected Home 2 Go Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:06:47 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-90578 <p>[...] carriers to offer simple home phone service. This is terrible news for wireline telcos, who, as Om Malik points out, are already seeing disastrous declines in voice revenues. But for wireless carriers, it means new [...]</p> [...] carriers to offer simple home phone service. This is terrible news for wireline telcos, who, as Om Malik points out, are already seeing disastrous declines in voice revenues. But for wireless carriers, it means new [...]

]]> By: The Law of Mobility » Blog Archive » Business Models: March 2007 http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-90576 The Law of Mobility » Blog Archive » Business Models: March 2007 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:44:46 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-90576 <p>[...] Line losses & Bells’ Race against time [...]</p> [...] Line losses & Bells’ Race against time [...]

]]> By: five_whys http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-90574 five_whys Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:38:56 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-90574 <p>Agree with most comments made here... worth sharing another experience.. some of you can try this!</p> <p>I am with pacbell for many years.. I was paying $15/month for DSL sometimes back and saw it going to $50/month. WIth premium package and long distance etc., I was paying $100 / month till mid last year. At some point I was trying with Vonage and I called up pacbell and asked to cancel voice line (while keeping DSL). Person on line offered me a deal - upgrade my DSL speed & keep premium phone package as it is and brought down my total bill to $50 (though without long distance) where I was paying $50 just for DSL earlier!!! they were simply waiting for me to call to offer better service at lower price!!</p> <p>give it a try!</p> <p>five_whys</p> Agree with most comments made here… worth sharing another experience.. some of you can try this!

I am with pacbell for many years.. I was paying $15/month for DSL sometimes back and saw it going to $50/month. WIth premium package and long distance etc., I was paying $100 / month till mid last year. At some point I was trying with Vonage and I called up pacbell and asked to cancel voice line (while keeping DSL). Person on line offered me a deal – upgrade my DSL speed & keep premium phone package as it is and brought down my total bill to $50 (though without long distance) where I was paying $50 just for DSL earlier!!! they were simply waiting for me to call to offer better service at lower price!!

give it a try!

five_whys

]]> By: Clint http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-90572 Clint Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:55:48 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-90572 <p>I wrote a response on my blog, IPUrbia.com. I definitely agree that AT&T faces a rough future in the residential market, and I don't see it getting much better with the rollout of their IPTV platform. Having triple play may stem the tide, but, when all is said and done, in two or three years, AT&T will be competing in a DOCSIS 3/fiber market where their competition is offering 10 times the bandwidth and has room to go. Still, AT&T is strong in the business market as a strength, which, while it doesn't have the sheer number of subs of the residential market, does have much better margins.</p> I wrote a response on my blog, IPUrbia.com. I definitely agree that AT&T faces a rough future in the residential market, and I don’t see it getting much better with the rollout of their IPTV platform. Having triple play may stem the tide, but, when all is said and done, in two or three years, AT&T will be competing in a DOCSIS 3/fiber market where their competition is offering 10 times the bandwidth and has room to go. Still, AT&T is strong in the business market as a strength, which, while it doesn’t have the sheer number of subs of the residential market, does have much better margins.

]]> By: John Thacker http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-90566 John Thacker Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:07:21 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-90566 <p><em>A quick fix to this would actually be better offerings - higher downstream and better upstream speeds to counter the cable operators who are charging more for their beefier offerings. Time Warner and Cablevision, for example have started offering “more” bandwidth.</em></p> <p>Time Warner and Cablevision are also offering faster bandwidth especially in places with Verizon's FiOS. FiOS is great, but it's not exactly a "quick fix." But maybe it is time for faster DSL offerings, assuming it's possible. The Bells were competing on price by offering cheap DSL, for the people who are just as happy on 768k DSL as on faster cable modems, and might even be still on dial-up, and got a lot of adds that way-- but that growth slowed down from last year.</p> A quick fix to this would actually be better offerings – higher downstream and better upstream speeds to counter the cable operators who are charging more for their beefier offerings. Time Warner and Cablevision, for example have started offering “more” bandwidth.

Time Warner and Cablevision are also offering faster bandwidth especially in places with Verizon’s FiOS. FiOS is great, but it’s not exactly a “quick fix.” But maybe it is time for faster DSL offerings, assuming it’s possible. The Bells were competing on price by offering cheap DSL, for the people who are just as happy on 768k DSL as on faster cable modems, and might even be still on dial-up, and got a lot of adds that way– but that growth slowed down from last year.

]]> By: Werblog http://gigaom.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-90568 Werblog Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:04:45 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/03/05/bell-accessline-losses-4q2006/#comment-90568 <p><strong>The Bells' Challenge...</strong></p> <p>Om Malik points to some numbers of UBS Research on how the incumbent phone companies are losing market share to cable VOIP, and pushing video as their salvation.......</p> The Bells’ Challenge…

Om Malik points to some numbers of UBS Research on how the incumbent phone companies are losing market share to cable VOIP, and pushing video as their salvation…….

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