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		<title>By: For Music and News Industries, Power is Now With the People &#124; The Future Buzz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-888521</link>
		<dc:creator>For Music and News Industries, Power is Now With the People &#124; The Future Buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] The results of the new study only bolster our previous argument that YouTube is not built by big media. Liz Gannes puts it best when she says, “So maybe YouTube really is about the long tail, the little guy, and the lonely girl.” I think in the end, both parties will have to bury the hatchet and play nice with each other - just as our readers had predicted. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The results of the new study only bolster our previous argument that YouTube is not built by big media. Liz Gannes puts it best when she says, “So maybe YouTube really is about the long tail, the little guy, and the lonely girl.” I think in the end, both parties will have to bury the hatchet and play nice with each other &#8211; just as our readers had predicted. [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: NewTeeVee &#187; Battle of the Corporate (Video) Monsters</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89921</link>
		<dc:creator>NewTeeVee &#187; Battle of the Corporate (Video) Monsters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] an attempt to put the players in the fight over the future of the online video that any internut can understand, I&#8217;ve literally drawn up an analogy pitting the many [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] an attempt to put the players in the fight over the future of the online video that any internut can understand, I&#8217;ve literally drawn up an analogy pitting the many [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kyle Redinger</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89920</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle Redinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 01:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think New Media Technology companies will have to buy Content Companies to overcome this challenge.  I discuss my thoughts here:  http://themediaage.com/?p=8 .&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think New Media Technology companies will have to buy Content Companies to overcome this challenge.  I discuss my thoughts here:  <a href="http://themediaage.com/?p=8" rel="nofollow">http://themediaage.com/?p=8</a> .</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Karthik Chandramouli</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89919</link>
		<dc:creator>Karthik Chandramouli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 14:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;40 meters&quot; ???&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Om, seriously, don&#039;t you know that we Americans are proudly not part of the metric system?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s a 40-yard dash:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_yard_dash&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;40 meters&#8221; ???</p>

<p>Om, seriously, don&#8217;t you know that we Americans are proudly not part of the metric system?</p>

<p>It&#8217;s a 40-yard dash:</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_yard_dash" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40_yard_dash</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Moksh Juneja</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89918</link>
		<dc:creator>Moksh Juneja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 08:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There will be people reading papers and there will people who would be using YouTube... both will be influencing, both will create enough opportunities&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will be people reading papers and there will people who would be using YouTube&#8230; both will be influencing, both will create enough opportunities</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Randy Smythe</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89917</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Smythe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with Michael Stone&#039;s comments. What can I add?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Old Media (Viacom, NBC) is using what little leverage they have left to see if they can force YouTube into a better deal. They all would prefer to be calling the shots and if YouTube wasn&#039;t owned by Google then that approach might work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Unfortunately Google has $11 Billion in cash on its balance sheet. You Tube can concentrate on the Long-Tail for now. The Old-Media Farts will soon have to fall in line.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Michael Stone&#8217;s comments. What can I add?</p>

<p>Old Media (Viacom, NBC) is using what little leverage they have left to see if they can force YouTube into a better deal. They all would prefer to be calling the shots and if YouTube wasn&#8217;t owned by Google then that approach might work.</p>

<p>Unfortunately Google has $11 Billion in cash on its balance sheet. You Tube can concentrate on the Long-Tail for now. The Old-Media Farts will soon have to fall in line.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: victor</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89916</link>
		<dc:creator>victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 17:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This getting very intresting with respect to content owners and the affirmation of content being King.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This getting very intresting with respect to content owners and the affirmation of content being King.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: donloeb.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-03-03</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89915</link>
		<dc:creator>donloeb.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-03-03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 16:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] GigaOM - YouTube, Google vs Old Media: Who Wins? testing my daily delicious blog posting&#8230;and, yes&#8230;this is a good read as well! (tags: youtube google video media) [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] GigaOM &#8211; YouTube, Google vs Old Media: Who Wins? testing my daily delicious blog posting&#8230;and, yes&#8230;this is a good read as well! (tags: youtube google video media) [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Michael Stone</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89907</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;THIS IS AN EASY ONE!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If old media capitulates and gives YouTube their libraries for crumbs, and they don&#039;t become primary players in the Video business, then they lose.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If they do become primary players, as Viacom is trying to do with iFilms.com, then they can also work with YouTube and still be winners.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Old Media missed the Search revolution, and therefore, lost tens of billions in market capitalization. Time Warner could be a major player now if they hadn&#039;t missed this.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They all missed the contextual ad revolution - nearly every web page on the internet has contextual links on them and billions of market value has been created.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If they &lt;em&gt;miss&lt;/em&gt; the coming Video revolution and simply pick up a few crumbs from Google and Yahoo in the form of royalty payments, then YouTube will be worth $20 billion in 5 years and Viacom will have collected a few &quot;tens of millions&quot; over that period. It&#039;s simple, in my eyes, to see how this will play out.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS IS AN EASY ONE!</p>

<p>If old media capitulates and gives YouTube their libraries for crumbs, and they don&#8217;t become primary players in the Video business, then they lose.</p>

<p>If they do become primary players, as Viacom is trying to do with iFilms.com, then they can also work with YouTube and still be winners.</p>

<p>Old Media missed the Search revolution, and therefore, lost tens of billions in market capitalization. Time Warner could be a major player now if they hadn&#8217;t missed this.</p>

<p>They all missed the contextual ad revolution &#8211; nearly every web page on the internet has contextual links on them and billions of market value has been created.</p>

<p>If they <em>miss</em> the coming Video revolution and simply pick up a few crumbs from Google and Yahoo in the form of royalty payments, then YouTube will be worth $20 billion in 5 years and Viacom will have collected a few &#8220;tens of millions&#8221; over that period. It&#8217;s simple, in my eyes, to see how this will play out.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: carl</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89912</link>
		<dc:creator>carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 10:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes. Content is still king.  Those that OWN the content are the KINGS. What does Google OWN? WHat does Google WANT to OWN? They can make what they can of Youtube now (traffic, money) but in the long term the media giants will catch up with whatever THEY think will give THEM the biggest ROI. Sure G can make a killing on Youtube to see there own RIO in the meantime, but they&#039;ve always made a big deal about not &lt;em&gt;owning&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Content is still king.  Those that OWN the content are the KINGS. What does Google OWN? WHat does Google WANT to OWN? They can make what they can of Youtube now (traffic, money) but in the long term the media giants will catch up with whatever THEY think will give THEM the biggest ROI. Sure G can make a killing on Youtube to see there own RIO in the meantime, but they&#8217;ve always made a big deal about not <em>owning</em>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Lars Mouritzen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89913</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars Mouritzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 10:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How big a success is youTube?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It really depends on what your yardstick for success is. It is pretty hard to argue with a $1.6 billion valuation, but how does youTube stack up against a traditional media company.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lets say youTube has 100 million individuals downloading and watching a 5 minute clip every day. That is about 8 million user-hours. (100 million x 5 minutes/ 60 minutes).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That is probably equivalent to a days worth of TV watching in Houston. (about 2 million people, watching 4 hours a day).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So for all the hype, youTube has captured the TV equivalent of Houston. Nothiing wrong with Houston, but if we were trying to measure youTube using traditional TV tools, I&#039;m not sure it would even turn up in the ratings.  This does rather suggest that there is some way to go before youTube can actually justify the current level of hype.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How big a success is youTube?</p>

<p>It really depends on what your yardstick for success is. It is pretty hard to argue with a $1.6 billion valuation, but how does youTube stack up against a traditional media company.</p>

<p>Lets say youTube has 100 million individuals downloading and watching a 5 minute clip every day. That is about 8 million user-hours. (100 million x 5 minutes/ 60 minutes).</p>

<p>That is probably equivalent to a days worth of TV watching in Houston. (about 2 million people, watching 4 hours a day).</p>

<p>So for all the hype, youTube has captured the TV equivalent of Houston. Nothiing wrong with Houston, but if we were trying to measure youTube using traditional TV tools, I&#8217;m not sure it would even turn up in the ratings.  This does rather suggest that there is some way to go before youTube can actually justify the current level of hype.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Stan Miller</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89914</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 05:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Media companys have the leverage here.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Despite YouTube&#039;s popularity, there is still no Kleenex in the video space -- just facial tissue.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;YouTube is looking a lot like Napster these days.  The video space is just waiting for an Apple to define the terms of the casual viewer engagement (CVE).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Media companys have the leverage here.</p>

<p>Despite YouTube&#8217;s popularity, there is still no Kleenex in the video space &#8212; just facial tissue.</p>

<p>YouTube is looking a lot like Napster these days.  The video space is just waiting for an Apple to define the terms of the casual viewer engagement (CVE).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89911</link>
		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 04:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Can you imagine a country so stupid as to block Youtube to its over a million subscribers.
Yes there are stupid govt&#039;s like that still.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am talking about United Arab Emirates.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Those fools need a royal butt whooping.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;LOL!.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you imagine a country so stupid as to block Youtube to its over a million subscribers.
Yes there are stupid govt&#8217;s like that still.</p>

<p>I am talking about United Arab Emirates.</p>

<p>Those fools need a royal butt whooping.</p>

<p>LOL!.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Pankaj</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89910</link>
		<dc:creator>Pankaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 03:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For now, big media companies have an edge. But eventually, Youtube and &quot;others&quot; will win. Simply because of the flexibility and variety  they provide to the consumer. Remember - YouTube has global reach. It can reach a house in SFO as well as in Bombay. Internet/Youtube is too powerful a combination for NBC etc etc.
BBC too is a global News/Media company. So they understand youtube well and hence signed a deal.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For now, big media companies have an edge. But eventually, Youtube and &#8220;others&#8221; will win. Simply because of the flexibility and variety  they provide to the consumer. Remember &#8211; YouTube has global reach. It can reach a house in SFO as well as in Bombay. Internet/Youtube is too powerful a combination for NBC etc etc.
BBC too is a global News/Media company. So they understand youtube well and hence signed a deal.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chris R.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89909</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 02:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Since, to a large extent, big media content helped make YouTube what it is today, I think Google is going to have to eat some of that humble pie.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since, to a large extent, big media content helped make YouTube what it is today, I think Google is going to have to eat some of that humble pie.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: B.Clinton</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/03/02/youtube-google-vs-old-media-who-wins/#comment-89908</link>
		<dc:creator>B.Clinton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 23:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Of course the old media - content is still the &quot;king&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All the distribution pipe outlets for just some sexy cheeks waiting for the &quot;old geezer&quot; to get pick from.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the old media &#8211; content is still the &#8220;king&#8221;.</p>

<p>All the distribution pipe outlets for just some sexy cheeks waiting for the &#8220;old geezer&#8221; to get pick from.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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