Comments on: 5 reasons BitTorrent Store won’t sell http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 15:23:00 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Open Thread: How to Fix BitTorrent, the Startup? - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-892444 Open Thread: How to Fix BitTorrent, the Startup? - GigaOM Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:48:41 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-892444 <p>[...] have been handed to some of the employees of San Francisco-based BitTorrent. The problems stem from their ill-fated consumer distribution effort, which competed with richer, more deep-pocketed rivals. They were [...]</p> [...] have been handed to some of the employees of San Francisco-based BitTorrent. The problems stem from their ill-fated consumer distribution effort, which competed with richer, more deep-pocketed rivals. They were [...]

]]> By: Baxter Tocher http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88566 Baxter Tocher Sun, 04 Mar 2007 18:26:47 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88566 <p>Two comments from me.</p> <ol> <li><p>Hasn't Zudeo (http://www.zudeo.com/) made all of this Bittorrent stuff easier with its new, simple-to-use for all front end? The BBC certainly thought so.</p></li> <li><p>Hasn't Sky Anytime in the UK (http://anytime.sky.com/about/pc.aspx) already demonstrated how easy it is to use a P2P application without needing to know that's really what you're doing?</p></li> </ol> Two comments from me.

  1. Hasn’t Zudeo (http://www.zudeo.com/) made all of this Bittorrent stuff easier with its new, simple-to-use for all front end? The BBC certainly thought so.

  2. Hasn’t Sky Anytime in the UK (http://anytime.sky.com/about/pc.aspx) already demonstrated how easy it is to use a P2P application without needing to know that’s really what you’re doing?

]]> By: Pirates mourn as BitTorrent goes legit - Simple Technology - News and how-tos for the digital lifestyle http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88565 Pirates mourn as BitTorrent goes legit - Simple Technology - News and how-tos for the digital lifestyle Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:26:03 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88565 <p>[...] or what he sees as a betrayal of BitTorrent’s founding principals. Similarly, Om Malik of GigaOM.com suggests that BitTorrent’s long-standing reputation, steep learning curve, and lackluster [...]</p> [...] or what he sees as a betrayal of BitTorrent’s founding principals. Similarly, Om Malik of GigaOM.com suggests that BitTorrent’s long-standing reputation, steep learning curve, and lackluster [...]

]]> By: Louis van Proosdij Duport » Le pari difficile de BitTorrent Store http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88564 Louis van Proosdij Duport » Le pari difficile de BitTorrent Store Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:57:25 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88564 <p>[...] légal en P2P de BitTorrent est un pari difficile. Je partage l’analyse “5 reasons BitTorrent Store won’t sell” de l’excellent OM [...]</p> [...] légal en P2P de BitTorrent est un pari difficile. Je partage l’analyse “5 reasons BitTorrent Store won’t sell” de l’excellent OM [...]

]]> By: Jon http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88563 Jon Tue, 27 Feb 2007 07:06:04 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88563 <p>One of his reasons just isn't true: "Who uses the official BT client? BitTorrent’s official client has lost out to alternative clients including Azureus and BitComet."</p> <p>I just tested out the service with utorrent and it works fine. So what does it matter that people don't use the official BT client? And yes, i know utorrent was bought by BitTorrent. I'm sure azureus and bitcomet work fine as well.</p> One of his reasons just isn’t true: “Who uses the official BT client? BitTorrent’s official client has lost out to alternative clients including Azureus and BitComet.”

I just tested out the service with utorrent and it works fine. So what does it matter that people don’t use the official BT client? And yes, i know utorrent was bought by BitTorrent. I’m sure azureus and bitcomet work fine as well.

]]> By: Mi otro blog… » Blog Archive » BitTorrent lanza su servicio comercial de descarga de vídeo http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88562 Mi otro blog… » Blog Archive » BitTorrent lanza su servicio comercial de descarga de vídeo Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:56:46 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88562 <p>[...] acabar, destacar que algunos medios, como GigaOM, son escépticos en lo referente al posible éxito de este servicio, citando como posibles causas [...]</p> [...] acabar, destacar que algunos medios, como GigaOM, son escépticos en lo referente al posible éxito de este servicio, citando como posibles causas [...]

]]> By: Cory http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88561 Cory Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:48:16 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88561 <p>-Zaid just said it quite nicely</p> -Zaid just said it quite nicely

]]> By: Cory http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88560 Cory Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:47:19 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88560 <p>The lawyers and corporate types always seem to want to take a disruptive technology, which fosters a large usership simply because of its inherent "disruptiveness", and insert some subterfuge engineered to create revenue, and try to pass it off to the user community as the same "cool" technology, only better.</p> <p>I understand why they do it, but I have yet to see a successful "mashup" that comes anywhere near projected revenue, post suck.</p> <p>I agree UTorrent's client is nice, but if you were looking to launch a "mass market" download service, I'd think you want to shoot for something that looks more like Netflix. If they think they are going to retain the core usership of clients like UTorrent and migrate these folks to a paid model, I think we all know that's not going to happen....</p> The lawyers and corporate types always seem to want to take a disruptive technology, which fosters a large usership simply because of its inherent “disruptiveness”, and insert some subterfuge engineered to create revenue, and try to pass it off to the user community as the same “cool” technology, only better.

I understand why they do it, but I have yet to see a successful “mashup” that comes anywhere near projected revenue, post suck.

I agree UTorrent’s client is nice, but if you were looking to launch a “mass market” download service, I’d think you want to shoot for something that looks more like Netflix. If they think they are going to retain the core usership of clients like UTorrent and migrate these folks to a paid model, I think we all know that’s not going to happen….

]]> By: Zaid http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88530 Zaid Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:33:31 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88530 <p>THE biggest problem for the whole "Torrent" brand is the kind of folks it attracts: geeks not wishing to pay for stuff.</p> <p>A total rebranding may be a good start. Until then, say "Torrent" on a college campus and you will either get a confused face or a phrase such as "free movies."</p> <p>-Zaid</p> THE biggest problem for the whole “Torrent” brand is the kind of folks it attracts: geeks not wishing to pay for stuff.

A total rebranding may be a good start. Until then, say “Torrent” on a college campus and you will either get a confused face or a phrase such as “free movies.”

-Zaid

]]> By: Daniel Spisak http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88531 Daniel Spisak Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:19:21 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88531 <p>Om, Bittorrents default plain jane client is set to become defacto used once again thanks to the companies purchase of the uTorrent people. uTorrent is much smaller then any of the clients out there and high performance with low system impact.</p> Om, Bittorrents default plain jane client is set to become defacto used once again thanks to the companies purchase of the uTorrent people. uTorrent is much smaller then any of the clients out there and high performance with low system impact.

]]> By: VeNoMmx http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88532 VeNoMmx Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:14:18 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88532 <p>Man, you really need to get laid and stop worrying about torrents...seriously!</p> Man, you really need to get laid and stop worrying about torrents…seriously!

]]> By: pwb http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88536 pwb Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:53:29 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88536 <p>The DRM is less of a concern for a pay-per-view service.</p> The DRM is less of a concern for a pay-per-view service.

]]> By: petabro http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88535 petabro Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:49:41 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88535 <p>I am convinced that down the road BitTorrent will be extremely successful</p> I am convinced that down the road BitTorrent will be extremely successful

]]> By: John Polinsky http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88537 John Polinsky Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:39:04 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88537 <p>The bigger issue for me is, what incentive do I have to share my bandwidth. I love bittorrent in that I can use my large up and downstream to help distribute oss tools that I use. I'm certainly not going to pay for that privilege though. If media companies want to sell me their products over bittorrent they will have to be at extremely reduced prices to compensate me for distributing their material.</p> The bigger issue for me is, what incentive do I have to share my bandwidth. I love bittorrent in that I can use my large up and downstream to help distribute oss tools that I use. I’m certainly not going to pay for that privilege though. If media companies want to sell me their products over bittorrent they will have to be at extremely reduced prices to compensate me for distributing their material.

]]> By: ll http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88538 ll Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:29:59 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88538 <p>Having Windows DRM locked content is a highly undesirable in terms of user utility, however, it may be useful for the BitTorrent Entertainment Network at this point in time.</p> <p>Why?</p> <p>Having content tethered to your WM Player 11 on your internet connected PC allows you to build and sustain swarms of seeders of legitimate content, thereby providing a way to kick start BTEN's legitimate content network.</p> <p>Whether they can reach a critical mass without ticking off ISPs and users over bandwidth utilization is still open to question. Users are the other actor in the ecosystem that need to be considered. Even if ISPs do not shape their traffic and degrade the experience, users, who do not manage how BT uses their connectivity, will find that their other internet activities will be increasingly unresponsive as their upload bandwidth is being consumed by seeding activities – unless, of course, the BT client manages this for the uninitiated user)</p> <p>I agree with Om's analysis - many issues, a long road for BTEN...</p> Having Windows DRM locked content is a highly undesirable in terms of user utility, however, it may be useful for the BitTorrent Entertainment Network at this point in time.

Why?

Having content tethered to your WM Player 11 on your internet connected PC allows you to build and sustain swarms of seeders of legitimate content, thereby providing a way to kick start BTEN’s legitimate content network.

Whether they can reach a critical mass without ticking off ISPs and users over bandwidth utilization is still open to question. Users are the other actor in the ecosystem that need to be considered. Even if ISPs do not shape their traffic and degrade the experience, users, who do not manage how BT uses their connectivity, will find that their other internet activities will be increasingly unresponsive as their upload bandwidth is being consumed by seeding activities – unless, of course, the BT client manages this for the uninitiated user)

I agree with Om’s analysis – many issues, a long road for BTEN…

]]> By: Addicted http://gigaom.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88539 Addicted Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:20:17 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/26/bittorrent-store/#comment-88539 <p>Quite obviously, the one advantage of Bittorrent is the reduced distribution costs. As such, is anyone aware of what the cost to Apple, for e.g. is to distribute one 2 gig movie to a consumer?</p> Quite obviously, the one advantage of Bittorrent is the reduced distribution costs. As such, is anyone aware of what the cost to Apple, for e.g. is to distribute one 2 gig movie to a consumer?

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