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	<title>Comments on: Qwest: &#8216;Free&#8217; Calls cost us &#8216;Millions&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Death By Lawyer: 10 Cool Sites We Miss &#187; CatchDude Articles</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-822455</link>
		<dc:creator>Death By Lawyer: 10 Cool Sites We Miss &#187; CatchDude Articles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 03:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Fonpods was a service that offered free podcast listening over the phone. For some reason, this allegedly cost the telecommunications industry “millions” (back then they didn’t yet invent billions and trillions, hence the modest numbers), so the service was shut down. Ok, we can understand why they went after Allfreecalls.net (which is, btw, online again) and FreeConferenceCall.com, but podcasts? Millions, they say. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fonpods was a service that offered free podcast listening over the phone. For some reason, this allegedly cost the telecommunications industry “millions” (back then they didn’t yet invent billions and trillions, hence the modest numbers), so the service was shut down. Ok, we can understand why they went after Allfreecalls.net (which is, btw, online again) and FreeConferenceCall.com, but podcasts? Millions, they say. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Russ</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-762270</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Does this same criticism apply to Rondee (www.rondee.com) -- they do free conference calling too.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this same criticism apply to Rondee (www.rondee.com) &#8212; they do free conference calling too.</p>
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		<title>By: Los abogados asesinamos sitios web at Miguel Angel Mata &#124;&#124; Derecho y Tecnologia &#124;&#124;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-180920</link>
		<dc:creator>Los abogados asesinamos sitios web at Miguel Angel Mata &#124;&#124; Derecho y Tecnologia &#124;&#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Fonpods. Un servicio que te permitía escuchar podcasts a través de tu teléfono móvil. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: vagabundia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Las webs muertas</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-142846</link>
		<dc:creator>vagabundia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Las webs muertas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 03:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Fonpods ofrecía servicios de podcast gratuitos,&#160; a través del teléfono. Las compañías de telecomunicaciones gritaron:&#160; &#8220;perdemos millones, ¿qué pretenden de nosotros? ¿que tengamos que invertir? cierrren el sitio&#8221; y lo cerraron. Y después siguieron Allfreecalls.net y FreeConferenceCall.com. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fonpods ofrecía servicios de podcast gratuitos,&nbsp; a través del teléfono. Las compañías de telecomunicaciones gritaron:&nbsp; &#8220;perdemos millones, ¿qué pretenden de nosotros? ¿que tengamos que invertir? cierrren el sitio&#8221; y lo cerraron. Y después siguieron Allfreecalls.net y FreeConferenceCall.com. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#160; Death By Lawyer: 10 Cool Sites We Miss&#160;by&#160;The Best Article Every day</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-88468</link>
		<dc:creator>&#160; Death By Lawyer: 10 Cool Sites We Miss&#160;by&#160;The Best Article Every day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 02:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Fonpods was a service that offered free podcast listening over the phone. For some reason, this allegedly cost the telecommunications industry &#8220;millions&#8221; (back then they didn&#8217;t yet invent billions and trillions, hence the modest numbers), so the service was shut down. Ok, we can understand why they went after Allfreecalls.net (which is, btw, online again) and FreeConferenceCall.com, but podcasts? Millions, they say. [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fonpods was a service that offered free podcast listening over the phone. For some reason, this allegedly cost the telecommunications industry &#8220;millions&#8221; (back then they didn&#8217;t yet invent billions and trillions, hence the modest numbers), so the service was shut down. Ok, we can understand why they went after Allfreecalls.net (which is, btw, online again) and FreeConferenceCall.com, but podcasts? Millions, they say. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: proxieslist.net</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-88467</link>
		<dc:creator>proxieslist.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 12:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Fonpods was a service that offered free podcast listening over the phone. For some reason, this allegedly cost the telecommunications industry &#8220;millions&#8221; (back then they didn&#8217;t yet invent billions and trillions, hence the modest numbers), so the service was shut down. Ok, we can understand why they went after Allfreecalls.net (which is, btw, online again) and FreeConferenceCall.com, but podcasts? Millions, they say. [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fonpods was a service that offered free podcast listening over the phone. For some reason, this allegedly cost the telecommunications industry &#8220;millions&#8221; (back then they didn&#8217;t yet invent billions and trillions, hence the modest numbers), so the service was shut down. Ok, we can understand why they went after Allfreecalls.net (which is, btw, online again) and FreeConferenceCall.com, but podcasts? Millions, they say. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Death By Lawyer: 10 Cool Sites We Miss</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-88466</link>
		<dc:creator>Death By Lawyer: 10 Cool Sites We Miss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 12:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Fonpods was a service that offered free podcast listening over the phone. For some reason, this allegedly cost the telecommunications industry &#8220;millions&#8221; (back then they didn&#8217;t yet invent billions and trillions, hence the modest numbers), so the service was shut down. Ok, we can understand why they went after Allfreecalls.net (which is, btw, online again) and FreeConferenceCall.com, but podcasts? Millions, they say. [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fonpods was a service that offered free podcast listening over the phone. For some reason, this allegedly cost the telecommunications industry &#8220;millions&#8221; (back then they didn&#8217;t yet invent billions and trillions, hence the modest numbers), so the service was shut down. Ok, we can understand why they went after Allfreecalls.net (which is, btw, online again) and FreeConferenceCall.com, but podcasts? Millions, they say. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: anony mouse</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-88465</link>
		<dc:creator>anony mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 20:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The FCC ruled on a similar aspect already, and this could actually help the LECs and others on that side of the fence.  Audiotext v AT&#38;T from 2000-2004 (it  took a few years to resolve the case).  The basic premise of this case is audiotext negotiated a low rate (5 cents/min) to the UK then proceeded to call a bunch of 700 numbers they were paid 13 cents/min for.  It cost AT&#38;T more than that to terminate the call.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While audiotext was calling themselves, something not alledged here, the base of paying less per minute than it costs to complete the call and revenue sharing remains the same.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt; 35.  Although we by no means endorse the kind of business conduct that AudioText admittedly engaged in here, we have no authority to depart from the well-settled filed tariff doctrine simply because we wish to censure certain business conduct.  Instead, the Act places the burden on carriers such as AT&#38;T to protect themselves against customer conduct they deem unfair or undesirable by incorporating appropriate safeguards in their contract and/or tariff provisions.  In this case, AT&#38;T failed to take such protective measures before contracting with AudioText.  Accordingly, because we find that AT&#38;T's suspension of AudioText's service on September 15, 2000 was not authorized under section 2.9.6. of the tariff, we rule in AudioText's favor on these counts.
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The FCC ruled completely in audiotexts favour and stated that AT&#38;T violated their tariff when they shut off audiotexts service and (redundant claims were tossed merely becuase they were redundant and were not reviewed).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/2004/FCC-04-32A1.html
they have a pdf as well, but this ensures that everyone can read it easily.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FCC ruled on a similar aspect already, and this could actually help the LECs and others on that side of the fence.  Audiotext v AT&amp;T from 2000-2004 (it  took a few years to resolve the case).  The basic premise of this case is audiotext negotiated a low rate (5 cents/min) to the UK then proceeded to call a bunch of 700 numbers they were paid 13 cents/min for.  It cost AT&amp;T more than that to terminate the call.</p>
<p>While audiotext was calling themselves, something not alledged here, the base of paying less per minute than it costs to complete the call and revenue sharing remains the same.</p>
<pre><code> 35.  Although we by no means endorse the kind of business conduct that AudioText admittedly engaged in here, we have no authority to depart from the well-settled filed tariff doctrine simply because we wish to censure certain business conduct.  Instead, the Act places the burden on carriers such as AT&amp;T to protect themselves against customer conduct they deem unfair or undesirable by incorporating appropriate safeguards in their contract and/or tariff provisions.  In this case, AT&amp;T failed to take such protective measures before contracting with AudioText.  Accordingly, because we find that AT&amp;T's suspension of AudioText's service on September 15, 2000 was not authorized under section 2.9.6. of the tariff, we rule in AudioText's favor on these counts.
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<p>The FCC ruled completely in audiotexts favour and stated that AT&amp;T violated their tariff when they shut off audiotexts service and (redundant claims were tossed merely becuase they were redundant and were not reviewed).</p>
<p> (<a href="http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/2004/FCC-04-32A1.html" rel="nofollow">link</a>) <br />
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		<title>By: noris</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-88464</link>
		<dc:creator>noris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Free conference companies are figting back.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://wactivist.com/article/626/it-starts-wireless-carriers-block-freeconferencecom&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Remember that Qwest and AT&#38;T think they are doing favors for people or end users. They are saying these calls cost us millions of dollars, but who paid the bill? The customers pay Qwest and AT&#38;T for their bills, but then Qwest and AT&#38;T don't pay the companies. Who is in the wrong there?
Cingular and AT&#38;T jam phone networks at night for text and toll free numbers for the american idol show. Maybe these calls should be blocked from the local side?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;OTHER 'IDOL' CARPETBAGGERS: Last season,
 Cingular, the provider of mobile services to the show, rang up an astonishing 41.5 million text messages from the show's voting system. In the quarter that just ended in March -- smack dab in middle of "Idol" season -- the company reported a 9% increase in revenue and a profit of $350 million, and attributed it partly to "Idol."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cingular has jumped heavily on the "Idol" wagon as the show's popularity has grown. It now sells ringtones of "Idol" performances as they happen. And it recently launched a service that allows the 70 million MySpace subscribers to sell their own "Idol"-like karaoke performances as ringtones via the site.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Others gleefully join in. Coke pays a hefty sponsorship fee but gets prominent product-placement throughout the program. Vidgame firm Konami is said to be planning an ambitious "Idol" game. And in licensing that may really stretch the brand-extension cord, Mattel has "Barbie American Idol -- Rockin' Recording Studio" while the costume firm Disguise offers the "Future American Idol Toddler Costume."&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free conference companies are figting back.</p>
<p> (<a href="http://wactivist.com/article/626/it-starts-wireless-carriers-block-freeconferencecom" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
<p>Remember that Qwest and AT&amp;T think they are doing favors for people or end users. They are saying these calls cost us millions of dollars, but who paid the bill? The customers pay Qwest and AT&amp;T for their bills, but then Qwest and AT&amp;T don&#8217;t pay the companies. Who is in the wrong there?<br />
Cingular and AT&amp;T jam phone networks at night for text and toll free numbers for the american idol show. Maybe these calls should be blocked from the local side?</p>
<p>OTHER &#8216;IDOL&#8217; CARPETBAGGERS: Last season,<br />
 Cingular, the provider of mobile services to the show, rang up an astonishing 41.5 million text messages from the show&#8217;s voting system. In the quarter that just ended in March &#8212; smack dab in middle of &#8220;Idol&#8221; season &#8212; the company reported a 9% increase in revenue and a profit of $350 million, and attributed it partly to &#8220;Idol.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cingular has jumped heavily on the &#8220;Idol&#8221; wagon as the show&#8217;s popularity has grown. It now sells ringtones of &#8220;Idol&#8221; performances as they happen. And it recently launched a service that allows the 70 million MySpace subscribers to sell their own &#8220;Idol&#8221;-like karaoke performances as ringtones via the site.</p>
<p>Others gleefully join in. Coke pays a hefty sponsorship fee but gets prominent product-placement throughout the program. Vidgame firm Konami is said to be planning an ambitious &#8220;Idol&#8221; game. And in licensing that may really stretch the brand-extension cord, Mattel has &#8220;Barbie American Idol &#8212; Rockin&#8217; Recording Studio&#8221; while the costume firm Disguise offers the &#8220;Future American Idol Toddler Costume.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Fonpods in DeadPool</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-88463</link>
		<dc:creator>Fonpods in DeadPool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] 16 and is yet to come back online (and it probably won&#8217;t), Fonpods is now offline after being named a defendant in that expanding litigation. The domain name appears to be under the control of Qwest, the [...]&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 16 and is yet to come back online (and it probably won&#8217;t), Fonpods is now offline after being named a defendant in that expanding litigation. The domain name appears to be under the control of Qwest, the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-88462</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No deal has been struck.  The Iowa telco's have in fact sued AT&#38;T in New York for nonpayment.  These are published rates and this activity has been going on for years.  It is part of the design of telecom regs.  The big guys attack what they pay, but not what they collect.  In fact, this creates the opportunity for them to make money off of the long distance fees people pay to get to the free conferencing or chat service (that part is not free).  this allows the FCC to find a way to subsidize rural guys without raising the universal service fund fees, and it has created an entirely new market as it has lowered the cost of conferencing and chat to levels that the old bell monopolies can't stand.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is all a bullying ploy to keep new players out of the market.  And it is working.  But the correct venue is the FCC which sets and reviews these rates (and the volumes sold under them) every two years.  We are in the middle of that process now, which is why Qwest and AT&#38;T are pursuing these groundless suits.  They know no one likes being sued and even a worthless suit is expensive for startups and these small, unsophisticated rural guys.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But don't believe the nonsense in their one sided corporate spin.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No deal has been struck.  The Iowa telco&#8217;s have in fact sued AT&amp;T in New York for nonpayment.  These are published rates and this activity has been going on for years.  It is part of the design of telecom regs.  The big guys attack what they pay, but not what they collect.  In fact, this creates the opportunity for them to make money off of the long distance fees people pay to get to the free conferencing or chat service (that part is not free).  this allows the FCC to find a way to subsidize rural guys without raising the universal service fund fees, and it has created an entirely new market as it has lowered the cost of conferencing and chat to levels that the old bell monopolies can&#8217;t stand.</p>
<p>This is all a bullying ploy to keep new players out of the market.  And it is working.  But the correct venue is the FCC which sets and reviews these rates (and the volumes sold under them) every two years.  We are in the middle of that process now, which is why Qwest and AT&amp;T are pursuing these groundless suits.  They know no one likes being sued and even a worthless suit is expensive for startups and these small, unsophisticated rural guys.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t believe the nonsense in their one sided corporate spin.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-88461</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 00:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why is At&#38;t AND Quest suing?  You would think that Quest would wait to see what happens with AT&#38;T's suite before getting into a costly legal battle. It's like throwing a big juicy steak into what could be shark infested waters, and then jumping in yourself before it hits the water.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I'd bet anything that AT&#38;T struck some sort of deal already and Quest is trying to get in on it too and so they don't get screwed down the line when this arbitrage is officially allowed by the courts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is At&amp;t AND Quest suing?  You would think that Quest would wait to see what happens with AT&amp;T&#8217;s suite before getting into a costly legal battle. It&#8217;s like throwing a big juicy steak into what could be shark infested waters, and then jumping in yourself before it hits the water.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d bet anything that AT&amp;T struck some sort of deal already and Quest is trying to get in on it too and so they don&#8217;t get screwed down the line when this arbitrage is officially allowed by the courts.</p>
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		<title>By: gman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-88460</link>
		<dc:creator>gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;AT&#38;T Doen't like paying access fees to anyone - check out http://www.xchangemag.com/articles/525/525_461front4.html&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AT&amp;T Doen&#8217;t like paying access fees to anyone - check out  (<a href="http://www.xchangemag.com/articles/525/525_461front4.html" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
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		<title>By: gman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-88456</link>
		<dc:creator>gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I believe that the genesis of the problems started when Qwest decided to price to the competition instead of the cost. Although many long-distance businesses have adopted this unreasonable approach to business - it doesn't mean that they will make money doing so.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Qwest management isn't upset with the results of their UNLIMITED long distance plans (142,000 new customers last year).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I remember a day when a caller had to pay a per-minute rate based on where they were calling. I suppose if it cost 5 cents to get to one of the rural phone companies (as stated by Qwest in their lawsuit) Qwest management should probably charge their customer 5 cents or more to get there. If they don't I suppose they are going to lose some money - that is not hard to figure out. If Qwest does lose money, it is not the Iowa telephone companies fault, after all it is Qwest that charges the customer. The Iowa phone companies have been forced to lower their rates time and time again - just so the Qwest management can lower their rates even more – or offer UNLIMITED long distance plans.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Qwest management states that it cost 5 cents to get to Iowa and on Qwest's website they post rates of 5 and 7 cents when they charge per minute for long distance - so where is the problem - so where is the damage.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Obviously a big phone company smack down on the little rural independent phone companies.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the genesis of the problems started when Qwest decided to price to the competition instead of the cost. Although many long-distance businesses have adopted this unreasonable approach to business - it doesn&#8217;t mean that they will make money doing so.</p>
<p>Qwest management isn&#8217;t upset with the results of their UNLIMITED long distance plans (142,000 new customers last year).</p>
<p>I remember a day when a caller had to pay a per-minute rate based on where they were calling. I suppose if it cost 5 cents to get to one of the rural phone companies (as stated by Qwest in their lawsuit) Qwest management should probably charge their customer 5 cents or more to get there. If they don&#8217;t I suppose they are going to lose some money - that is not hard to figure out. If Qwest does lose money, it is not the Iowa telephone companies fault, after all it is Qwest that charges the customer. The Iowa phone companies have been forced to lower their rates time and time again - just so the Qwest management can lower their rates even more – or offer UNLIMITED long distance plans.</p>
<p>Qwest management states that it cost 5 cents to get to Iowa and on Qwest&#8217;s website they post rates of 5 and 7 cents when they charge per minute for long distance - so where is the problem - so where is the damage.</p>
<p>Obviously a big phone company smack down on the little rural independent phone companies.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here's a much more balanced view of the litigation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bal-bz.iowaphone24feb24,0,4999244.story?track=rss&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a much more balanced view of the litigation.</p>
<p> (<a href="http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bal-bz.iowaphone24feb24,0,4999244.story?track=rss" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/02/23/iowa-free-calling-schemes/#comment-88459</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have been in telecom for about 20 years.  I have to say that this whole thing seems like one giant scare tactic.  Www.fonpods.com has been "shut down" and "seized by Quest"?  This is not how the law works in the great USA. A big company cannot simply seize the property of another company becuase they disagree with what they are doing.  It's all BS.  Look at Futurephone.com.  There is a big red banner across the page "This service is no longer available." COME ON. Whoever shut down Futurephone wanted everyone to know that it is shutdown.  If it was the FCC or AT&#38;T or whoever, it would have just been taken down, or fwd to some other domain name. My guess?  AT&#38;T threw Fututrephone some $$ to shelf them, and put that banner up to scare any other people away from the business. Same thing woith Quest and Fonpod.   The big telecos are trying to bully these companies out of a great idea and loophole in telecom.   It's what America's all about!  They just built a better mousetrap, and the bug companies see a big problem, and are doing whatever they can do to stop it, including creating a scare on the internet....&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been in telecom for about 20 years.  I have to say that this whole thing seems like one giant scare tactic.   (<a href="http://Www.fonpods.com" rel="nofollow">link</a>)  has been &#8220;shut down&#8221; and &#8220;seized by Quest&#8221;?  This is not how the law works in the great USA. A big company cannot simply seize the property of another company becuase they disagree with what they are doing.  It&#8217;s all BS.  Look at Futurephone.com.  There is a big red banner across the page &#8220;This service is no longer available.&#8221; COME ON. Whoever shut down Futurephone wanted everyone to know that it is shutdown.  If it was the FCC or AT&amp;T or whoever, it would have just been taken down, or fwd to some other domain name. My guess?  AT&amp;T threw Fututrephone some $$ to shelf them, and put that banner up to scare any other people away from the business. Same thing woith Quest and Fonpod.   The big telecos are trying to bully these companies out of a great idea and loophole in telecom.   It&#8217;s what America&#8217;s all about!  They just built a better mousetrap, and the bug companies see a big problem, and are doing whatever they can do to stop it, including creating a scare on the internet&#8230;.</p>
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