Comments on: The New, New Music Industry http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/ Tracking the Internet Evolution Sun, 07 Sep 2008 05:37:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: | OOMG MUSIC INC. Blog http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-894232 | OOMG MUSIC INC. Blog Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:46:47 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-894232 [...] Click here to view original post [...] [...] Click here to view original post [...]

]]> By: Music Industry « The Wonderful World Of Music http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-866849 Music Industry « The Wonderful World Of Music Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:36:23 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-866849 <p>[...] click here! [...]</p> [...] click here! [...]

]]> By: Reinventing The New Music Experience at Matt MacQueen http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-402459 Reinventing The New Music Experience at Matt MacQueen Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:09:46 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-402459 <p>[...] I’ve been wondering how to capture my thoughts on so much change and online discussion of the digital music industry in the past few weeks, this post is an attempt at synthesis of many developments, all ultimately measured by the quality of the end user experience: Today Raghav Gupta at Brightcove gives is a great snapshot of a music industry undergoing massive digital (and increasingly mobile) disruption over at GigaOM » The New, New Music Industry [...]</p> [...] I’ve been wondering how to capture my thoughts on so much change and online discussion of the digital music industry in the past few weeks, this post is an attempt at synthesis of many developments, all ultimately measured by the quality of the end user experience: Today Raghav Gupta at Brightcove gives is a great snapshot of a music industry undergoing massive digital (and increasingly mobile) disruption over at GigaOM » The New, New Music Industry [...]

]]> By: bryan http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88045 bryan Mon, 14 May 2007 14:31:24 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88045 <p>Try looking at this from a musicians point of view, most of you work 9 till 5 jobs, we can't do this, we have to tour and play gigs, and go into the studio and record new alubms, all this shit costs money, and no 9 till 5 job can fund this shit ok, unless god comes down and says no need for money people go record your shit, then yeah, but untill then, every time you download somthing it's money lost, we need to make some money to cover the overheads you idiots</p> Try looking at this from a musicians point of view, most of you work 9 till 5 jobs, we can’t do this, we have to tour and play gigs, and go into the studio and record new alubms, all this shit costs money, and no 9 till 5 job can fund this shit ok, unless god comes down and says no need for money people go record your shit, then yeah, but untill then, every time you download somthing it’s money lost, we need to make some money to cover the overheads you idiots

]]> By: Ryan Havers http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88044 Ryan Havers Sat, 07 Apr 2007 05:41:10 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88044 <p>The post from Worth is somewhat disturbing. I agree with you in that there are "musicians" who make more money than they need to. But, we can say that about any big business, can't we?</p> <p>The truth is that the majority of musicians that play and write their own music do not make much of an income and if they do, it's definately not "millions of dollars".</p> <p>You know that music you "enjoy and applaude"? Yeah, ya see that music often requires many hours of work to write, record and produce so that you can "enjoy and applaude" it. This is called a profession, which requires an income to support it. If a musician/composer gets a real "job that contributes to the world", it takes time away from actually writing the music. And if you can raise a family, work a "job that contributes to the world" and write, record, distribute and then go perform that music to the world, well then Worth, you are a better person than I.</p> <p>BTW, music does contribute to the world.</p> The post from Worth is somewhat disturbing. I agree with you in that there are “musicians” who make more money than they need to. But, we can say that about any big business, can’t we?

The truth is that the majority of musicians that play and write their own music do not make much of an income and if they do, it’s definately not “millions of dollars”.

You know that music you “enjoy and applaude”? Yeah, ya see that music often requires many hours of work to write, record and produce so that you can “enjoy and applaude” it. This is called a profession, which requires an income to support it. If a musician/composer gets a real “job that contributes to the world”, it takes time away from actually writing the music. And if you can raise a family, work a “job that contributes to the world” and write, record, distribute and then go perform that music to the world, well then Worth, you are a better person than I.

BTW, music does contribute to the world.

]]> By: mark slater http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88043 mark slater Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:23:45 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88043 <p>how can you put this out without giving time for the social music revolution? the future is in a hypbrid of identification, discovery and a layer of tools and attributes that help people express themselves. Music was a service, the industry pirates productized and exploited it, its now returning to a service.</p> <p>link this up with the umair bubblegen power going to the edge concept and you have the beginnings of what will appear out of the dust of a totally exploded model.</p> <p>what other industry is suuing its customers?</p> how can you put this out without giving time for the social music revolution? the future is in a hypbrid of identification, discovery and a layer of tools and attributes that help people express themselves. Music was a service, the industry pirates productized and exploited it, its now returning to a service.

link this up with the umair bubblegen power going to the edge concept and you have the beginnings of what will appear out of the dust of a totally exploded model.

what other industry is suuing its customers?

]]> By: The Muso » The State of the Music Industry http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88042 The Muso » The State of the Music Industry Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:27:24 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88042 <p>[...] has an article by Raghav Gupta of Internet TV Service Brightcove on the state of the worldwide music industry. The article is [...]</p> [...] has an article by Raghav Gupta of Internet TV Service Brightcove on the state of the worldwide music industry. The article is [...]

]]> By: Arne Gebbart http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88041 Arne Gebbart Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:45:43 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88041 <p>Essentially every specialty music and movie brick and mortar retailer chain has declared bankruptcy at least once in the last seven or eight years. Why? Squeeze from both ends is killing them.</p> Essentially every specialty music and movie brick and mortar retailer chain has declared bankruptcy at least once in the last seven or eight years. Why? Squeeze from both ends is killing them.

]]> By: Mike Thar http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88040 Mike Thar Fri, 23 Feb 2007 00:01:11 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88040 <p>Hi, Yes music indeed keeps us all going.. it is necessary to adapt and evolve with the digital age. I think the only way Music industry can really change is by adapting to the taste of this new population, finding and targeting the right audience is more important then ever before...</p> Hi, Yes music indeed keeps us all going.. it is necessary to adapt and evolve with the digital age. I think the only way Music industry can really change is by adapting to the taste of this new population, finding and targeting the right audience is more important then ever before…

]]> By: your wiki guide http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88039 your wiki guide Wed, 21 Feb 2007 08:02:02 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88039 <p>nothing is constant but change and so looking at how music industry transform is somethign inevitable. what we can do is work together to keep it alive. </p> <p>you got nice post here and it came to my understanding how the rest of million people in this world don't even care… music keeps us all going.. it must be saved!</p> nothing is constant but change and so looking at how music industry transform is somethign inevitable. what we can do is work together to keep it alive.

you got nice post here and it came to my understanding how the rest of million people in this world don’t even care… music keeps us all going.. it must be saved!

]]> By: Daan http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88038 Daan Tue, 20 Feb 2007 13:00:07 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88038 <p>nice but long blog. anyhow another black view on the music industry, talking about declines is something we already know!!!</p> nice but long blog.
anyhow another black view on the music industry, talking about declines is something we already know!!!

]]> By: Podbop Blog http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88037 Podbop Blog Mon, 19 Feb 2007 23:51:45 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88037 <p><strong>Links…</strong></p> <p>The New Music Industry A nice overview of how 2007 is going to break the old way of doing things Sirius and XM Radio are Merging Even bigger picture: "Imagine what will happen to the "broadcast" market when the unicast…</p> Links…

The New Music Industry A nice overview of how 2007 is going to break the old way of doing things Sirius and XM Radio are Merging Even bigger picture: “Imagine what will happen to the “broadcast” market when the unicast…

]]> By: John Cornett http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88036 John Cornett Sun, 18 Feb 2007 01:11:33 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88036 <p>As an owner of a 12 year old independent label--Om Records/SF--with 13 employees and a newly opened 2nd office in London, business has never been better or more exciting. </p> <p>The issues with the majors are no different then what is happening in every other industry where large organizations compete with smaller organizations, they are finding out they can't cut it in our new world where adjusting to rapid change is essential. </p> <p>Pretty exciting times in the music biz…</p> <p>John</p> As an owner of a 12 year old independent label–Om Records/SF–with 13 employees and a newly opened 2nd office in London, business has never been better or more exciting.

The issues with the majors are no different then what is happening in every other industry where large organizations compete with smaller organizations, they are finding out they can’t cut it in our new world where adjusting to rapid change is essential.

Pretty exciting times in the music biz…

John

]]> By: alan p http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88035 alan p Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:17:59 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88035 <p>Interesting article…some comments based on our experience:</p> <ul> <li><p>"Bait n Switch" - I don't know, there was an era when the average album had 1 or 2 songs you wouldn't want rather than 1 or 2 you would (cf Pink Floyd Dark Side of The moon) - I think if the music industry went back to that it would be fine.</p></li> <li><p>Tight playlists - absolutely - thats whats driving the kids onto Pandora etc, I blogged on that <a href="http://broadstuff.com/archives/151-The-New-Meedja-a-message-from-the-Kiddorati.html" rel="nofollow">here</a></p></li> <li><p>Cheap CD's as loss leader - my heart bleeds - if you look at how little money goes to artist and real value add, and how much goes to friction in the current value chain, its clear that it will be didrupted.</p></li> </ul> <p>As you say, it is transforming - it has no option. Current Ad plays, DRM, even sytems like iTunes are interims as it moves from being a totally hit based to far more of a find based economy.</p> <p>On eof the lessons of Pandora etc is that no matter which "big" artist you like, you will find 10 minors who are pretty man good too - and one may resonate more with you than the big star. </p> <p>This is imho inevitable, and the economics of teh game have to move to support it.</p> Interesting article…some comments based on our experience:

  • “Bait n Switch” - I don’t know, there was an era when the average album had 1 or 2 songs you wouldn’t want rather than 1 or 2 you would (cf Pink Floyd Dark Side of The moon) - I think if the music industry went back to that it would be fine.

  • Tight playlists - absolutely - thats whats driving the kids onto Pandora etc, I blogged on that here

  • Cheap CD’s as loss leader - my heart bleeds - if you look at how little money goes to artist and real value add, and how much goes to friction in the current value chain, its clear that it will be didrupted.

As you say, it is transforming - it has no option. Current Ad plays, DRM, even sytems like iTunes are interims as it moves from being a totally hit based to far more of a find based economy.

On eof the lessons of Pandora etc is that no matter which “big” artist you like, you will find 10 minors who are pretty man good too - and one may resonate more with you than the big star.

This is imho inevitable, and the economics of teh game have to move to support it.

]]> By: Rajesh Koli. http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88034 Rajesh Koli. Sat, 17 Feb 2007 11:33:42 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88034 <p>Hi ''rags''I loved your blog''The music industry is dead''. Really,due to the latest digital technology the older people in the music industry are badly suffering.Speacially, the indian music industry.</p> Hi ”rags”I loved your blog”The music industry
is dead”. Really,due to the latest digital technology the older people in the music industry are badly suffering.Speacially, the indian music industry.

]]> By: Bill P http://gigaom.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88031 Bill P Sat, 17 Feb 2007 04:57:05 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/02/15/the-new-new-music-industry/#comment-88031 <p>Hi David, Recently came across a company that does similar to what you want.. check out Divinity Assets..</p> <p>Regards, BP</p> Hi David, Recently came across a company that does similar to what you want.. check out Divinity Assets..

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