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		<title>By: Olympia</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;In RSA we are not quite that lucky! Failing has very severe consequences.. as any one with a failed business here can tell you!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Been lycky enough until now, second business still going strong.. hope I don&#039;t have to face a system with somewhat less friendly aspect.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In RSA we are not quite that lucky! Failing has very severe consequences.. as any one with a failed business here can tell you!</p>
<p>Been lycky enough until now, second business still going strong.. hope I don&#8217;t have to face a system with somewhat less friendly aspect.</p>
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		<title>By: Planblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The benefits of bankruptcy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Planblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The benefits of bankruptcy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Young at GigaOm: Bankruptcy: The Opportunity to Fail  A former mentor, and a very smart man, once told me that the greatest invention in this democracy [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Young at GigaOm: Bankruptcy: The Opportunity to Fail  A former mentor, and a very smart man, once told me that the greatest invention in this democracy [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Counterintuitive Thinking - Dominica Weekly: Island News From The Nature Paradise</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Counterintuitive Thinking - Dominica Weekly: Island News From The Nature Paradise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] thoughts on this topic. In fact, I believe that every Entrepreneur must read Roberts post on Bankruptcy:the opportunity to fail. It’s doesn’t matter if you’re not an entrepreneur in the USA. For anyone who works in many [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] thoughts on this topic. In fact, I believe that every Entrepreneur must read Roberts post on Bankruptcy:the opportunity to fail. It’s doesn’t matter if you’re not an entrepreneur in the USA. For anyone who works in many [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Humm, it&#039;s a very interresting point of view. However it&#039;s controversial.
In one hand we need to help entrepreneurs to take risks and eventually success.
On the other hand, one thing is not to be forgotten, these entrepreneurs do not play often with their own money and involve people in their bet.
I will completely agree with you if they drive their business in complete transparency with their investors (I&#039;m less concerned by them who are advise people in business) and employees.
Do you believe it&#039;s often true?
An entreprise is also a social asset, nobody wins without its environment (there is no internet success story&#039;s creator who can tell he was the inventor of internet). Starting a company is not a game, it can be fun, but with it&#039;s a responsibility towards folks and society. It&#039;s difficult to tell people &quot;sorry guys you were guineas pigs the next one might have a beter chance with me.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humm, it&#8217;s a very interresting point of view. However it&#8217;s controversial.<br />
In one hand we need to help entrepreneurs to take risks and eventually success.<br />
On the other hand, one thing is not to be forgotten, these entrepreneurs do not play often with their own money and involve people in their bet.<br />
I will completely agree with you if they drive their business in complete transparency with their investors (I&#8217;m less concerned by them who are advise people in business) and employees.<br />
Do you believe it&#8217;s often true?<br />
An entreprise is also a social asset, nobody wins without its environment (there is no internet success story&#8217;s creator who can tell he was the inventor of internet). Starting a company is not a game, it can be fun, but with it&#8217;s a responsibility towards folks and society. It&#8217;s difficult to tell people &#8220;sorry guys you were guineas pigs the next one might have a beter chance with me.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: broadstuff</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Entrepreneurs Dilemma - Founders Discount vs Fun Fun Fun&#8230;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Seems to be a surfeit of posts on the Joys of Failure in Entrepreneurship&#8230;first GigaOm, commenting on posts by a US VC and a successful Website owner (HotorNot). Vecosys asked about attitude to failure in the UK, and here in Germany.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, might &#8230;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Entrepreneurs Dilemma &#8211; Founders Discount vs Fun Fun Fun&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Seems to be a surfeit of posts on the Joys of Failure in Entrepreneurship&#8230;first GigaOm, commenting on posts by a US VC and a successful Website owner (HotorNot). Vecosys asked about attitude to failure in the UK, and here in Germany.</p>
<p>Well, might &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin O'Keefe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin O'Keefe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 19:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;My best friend, who owns a Wisconsin bank, was against the recent changes in bankruptcy law for the very reasons you write about Robert.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But the credit card companies and banks, who literally wrote the bankruptcy code updates that went into law last year, took the heart of the bankruptcy laws you think are an entrepreneur&#039;s ally.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Entrepreneurs, like me, often use credit card debt to finance a business that a bank would not finance and that would not yet merit angel or vc backing. Take those credit credit applications you usually toss in the garbage, fill them out and you have an instant loan.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Problem now is that such credit card debt is non dischargeable. In addition, debtors under the new bankruptcy law are often required to pay off over time debts that were previously dischargeable in bankruptcy.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My best friend, who owns a Wisconsin bank, was against the recent changes in bankruptcy law for the very reasons you write about Robert.</p>
<p>But the credit card companies and banks, who literally wrote the bankruptcy code updates that went into law last year, took the heart of the bankruptcy laws you think are an entrepreneur&#8217;s ally.</p>
<p>Entrepreneurs, like me, often use credit card debt to finance a business that a bank would not finance and that would not yet merit angel or vc backing. Take those credit credit applications you usually toss in the garbage, fill them out and you have an instant loan.</p>
<p>Problem now is that such credit card debt is non dischargeable. In addition, debtors under the new bankruptcy law are often required to pay off over time debts that were previously dischargeable in bankruptcy.</p>
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		<title>By: P. Sachdeva</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P. Sachdeva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m from India. Most tech companies in India are doing low-end work like writing ERP applications for U.S and other foreign businesses and customer support call centers etc. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In last 15 years, we have not seen a single tech company of the scale of Google, Yahoo or even Skype being born in India. The reason is not the lack of education or talent among the Indians because when I visit the office of U.S. companies or even the businesses in Singapore, I see Indians working in senior positions in those companies all the time. There have been many successful startups in the U.S. with founders who were born and educated in India. So clearly Indians have the talent but what we lack in India is the appetite for risk and the respect for failures. Unfortunately in my country people can’t understand one simple rule and that is you can’t learn to swim without jumping in the water. The worst part is that I don’t see this attitude changing in near future.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from India. Most tech companies in India are doing low-end work like writing ERP applications for U.S and other foreign businesses and customer support call centers etc. </p>
<p>In last 15 years, we have not seen a single tech company of the scale of Google, Yahoo or even Skype being born in India. The reason is not the lack of education or talent among the Indians because when I visit the office of U.S. companies or even the businesses in Singapore, I see Indians working in senior positions in those companies all the time. There have been many successful startups in the U.S. with founders who were born and educated in India. So clearly Indians have the talent but what we lack in India is the appetite for risk and the respect for failures. Unfortunately in my country people can’t understand one simple rule and that is you can’t learn to swim without jumping in the water. The worst part is that I don’t see this attitude changing in near future.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ronald Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 20:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Failure is a fact of life. No one is immune to it. Throughout my life, I&#039;ve allowed personal and professional wounds to greatly impact my future growth and positive outlook. While I still recovered, I still held on to past failures, mistakes, experiences, etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve learned that failure doesn&#039;t make you a bad individual or professional, but someone who is human. I took failures to heart, as I felt I wasn&#039;t good enough, or capable enough. I also realized that I wasn&#039;t aligning myself with the right ideas, people, and projects.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s imperative to find the right mix of ingredients to thrive in anything you wish to be successful in. This includes love, careers, groups, etc. You also must identify your strengths and weaknesses, and find a balance that will work for you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For example, I knew from an early age that I had no desire to be an &quot;employee&quot;. So, I&#039;ve aways had an entrepreneurial spirit, but until recently, only discovered where my true passions lie in my pursuit of independence and freedom. Knowing that I&#039;ve discovered where my talents are best suited is a rewarding feeling.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Finally, for those who have been slighted by toxic people, have suffered unjust treatment, etc.: You&#039;ll recover. Time is your best friend -- allow it to do its work.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Failure is a fact of life. No one is immune to it. Throughout my life, I&#8217;ve allowed personal and professional wounds to greatly impact my future growth and positive outlook. While I still recovered, I still held on to past failures, mistakes, experiences, etc.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve learned that failure doesn&#8217;t make you a bad individual or professional, but someone who is human. I took failures to heart, as I felt I wasn&#8217;t good enough, or capable enough. I also realized that I wasn&#8217;t aligning myself with the right ideas, people, and projects.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s imperative to find the right mix of ingredients to thrive in anything you wish to be successful in. This includes love, careers, groups, etc. You also must identify your strengths and weaknesses, and find a balance that will work for you.</p>
<p>For example, I knew from an early age that I had no desire to be an &#8220;employee&#8221;. So, I&#8217;ve aways had an entrepreneurial spirit, but until recently, only discovered where my true passions lie in my pursuit of independence and freedom. Knowing that I&#8217;ve discovered where my talents are best suited is a rewarding feeling.</p>
<p>Finally, for those who have been slighted by toxic people, have suffered unjust treatment, etc.: You&#8217;ll recover. Time is your best friend &#8212; allow it to do its work.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I concur that America&#039;s free market institutions encourage a spirit of entrepreneurship that is unequalled elsewhere.  But bankruptcy protection is antithetical to those institutions.  It&#039;s a subsidy, plain and simple, to those willing to take a risk from those content not to take such risks. And as a lover of free markets I certainly wouldn&#039;t call any government intervention into the voluntary contractual obligations of risk takers &quot;the most important element of this country&#039;s economic success&quot;. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/1&lt;em&gt;4/1&lt;/em&gt;4_2.pdf&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Peter&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I concur that America&#8217;s free market institutions encourage a spirit of entrepreneurship that is unequalled elsewhere.  But bankruptcy protection is antithetical to those institutions.  It&#8217;s a subsidy, plain and simple, to those willing to take a risk from those content not to take such risks. And as a lover of free markets I certainly wouldn&#8217;t call any government intervention into the voluntary contractual obligations of risk takers &#8220;the most important element of this country&#8217;s economic success&#8221;. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/1" rel="nofollow">http://www.mises.org/journals/jls/1</a><em>4/1</em>4_2.pdf</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: km4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[km4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Agree with points above but the number of companies ( mainly Fortune 1000 ones ) that &#039;game&#039; the US bankruptcy system to find safe harbor to relieve themselves of enormous debt and stupidness has become a standard business practice. Our archaic 1933 BK laws need to be changed to mitigate these fraudulent cases.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with points above but the number of companies ( mainly Fortune 1000 ones ) that &#8216;game&#8217; the US bankruptcy system to find safe harbor to relieve themselves of enormous debt and stupidness has become a standard business practice. Our archaic 1933 BK laws need to be changed to mitigate these fraudulent cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Smythe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy Smythe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Robert thanks for the post. I&#039;ve had three businesses in my career and prior to them I worked as a freelancer in TV production. I’ve actually had one job (for one year) over the last 22 years. Two of the businesses were modest successes and the most recent one was at first a tremendous success and then a miserable failure. I learned far more from the failure than I did from the success. Failure is certainly not fun but it is often the necessary ingredient for real success.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That&#039;s what I&#039;m looking forward to.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert thanks for the post. I&#8217;ve had three businesses in my career and prior to them I worked as a freelancer in TV production. I’ve actually had one job (for one year) over the last 22 years. Two of the businesses were modest successes and the most recent one was at first a tremendous success and then a miserable failure. I learned far more from the failure than I did from the success. Failure is certainly not fun but it is often the necessary ingredient for real success.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m looking forward to.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wesley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Wesley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Very nice to see a fresh perspective. We get used to the Tech sites mocking failed startups and it begins to affect your confidence. I&#039;m happy to someone defending failure.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice to see a fresh perspective. We get used to the Tech sites mocking failed startups and it begins to affect your confidence. I&#8217;m happy to someone defending failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lauren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Corrected EU link to Bankruptcy:
http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/entrepreneurship/support&lt;em&gt;measures/failure&lt;/em&gt;bankruptcy/index.htm&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just heard on the radio today: 84% of Americans are still looking for their dream job.  Me?  I abhor my current corporate job&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corrected EU link to Bankruptcy:<br />
<a href="http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/entrepreneurship/support" rel="nofollow">http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/entrepreneurship/support</a><em>measures/failure</em>bankruptcy/index.htm</p>
<p>Just heard on the radio today: 84% of Americans are still looking for their dream job.  Me?  I abhor my current corporate job&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Hmmm, I tend to agree but&#8230;my dad&#039;s was a serial entrepreneur.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do you have any idea what that was like for a kid, growing up? Another year - another city, another company. Thinking: will it all go bust again&#8230;and if so, how long until it happens?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you&#039;re going the entrepreneur route, I recommend that you wait before you have some success before you start having kids.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m also an ex-pat American living in Berlin, Germany. What this country largely lacks is the spark of originality and creativity coming from America&#039;s entrepreneurs. As an American, you take all that for granted until you move away. Americans really have a knack for coming up with new ideas, and should be proud of this.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, I tend to agree but&#8230;my dad&#8217;s was a serial entrepreneur.</p>
<p>Do you have any idea what that was like for a kid, growing up? Another year &#8211; another city, another company. Thinking: will it all go bust again&#8230;and if so, how long until it happens?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going the entrepreneur route, I recommend that you wait before you have some success before you start having kids.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also an ex-pat American living in Berlin, Germany. What this country largely lacks is the spark of originality and creativity coming from America&#8217;s entrepreneurs. As an American, you take all that for granted until you move away. Americans really have a knack for coming up with new ideas, and should be proud of this.</p>
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		<title>By: [M]ichelle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[[M]ichelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Failure - it&#039;s not about falling down but STAYING down&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Failure &#8211; it&#8217;s not about falling down but STAYING down</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Young</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@Anne Koark,
That&#039;s a great story&#8230; thanks for sharing.  What you&#039;re doing is precisely the lesson that any country/society desiring economic prosperity via innovation must learn.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And thanks for all the other comments&#8230; especially those that highlight the international (non-US) perspectives&#8230; they really help shed light on the cultural differences.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anne Koark,<br />
That&#8217;s a great story&#8230; thanks for sharing.  What you&#8217;re doing is precisely the lesson that any country/society desiring economic prosperity via innovation must learn.</p>
<p>And thanks for all the other comments&#8230; especially those that highlight the international (non-US) perspectives&#8230; they really help shed light on the cultural differences.</p>
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