Comments on: Will dirty talk boost VoIP start-ups? http://gigaom.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/ Tracking the Internet Evolution Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:43:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Like Jangl, TalkPlus Losing Its Voice As Well - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-877352 Like Jangl, TalkPlus Losing Its Voice As Well - GigaOM Thu, 08 May 2008 04:58:33 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-877352 [...] is not alone. We have heard from reliable sources that TalkPlus, San Mateo, Calif. Company is going nowhere fast. Michael Toepel, who was the CEO recently left, [...] [...] is not alone. We have heard from reliable sources that TalkPlus, San Mateo, Calif. Company is going nowhere fast. Michael Toepel, who was the CEO recently left, [...]

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]]> By: Nitin http://gigaom.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82097 Nitin Mon, 05 Feb 2007 19:22:23 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82097 <p>Well there is another startup www.lets101.com which have taken the idea to next step! they allow you to search others and listen to their introduction directly on phone and connect to anyone with just a key press on dialpad (ofcourse without revealing your phone number)</p> <p>have a look at http://www.lets101.com/guest/faq#QLets101 to know more</p> Well there is another startup http://www.lets101.com which have taken the idea to next step! they allow you to search others and listen to their introduction directly on phone and connect to anyone with just a key press on dialpad (ofcourse without revealing your phone number)

have a look at http://www.lets101.com/guest/faq#QLets101
to know more

]]> By: Vinay http://gigaom.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82096 Vinay Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:00:23 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82096 <p>Another company in US also offers anonymous numbers for dating.</p> <p>Read the full story here: http://voipguides.blogspot.com/2007/01/free-anyonmous-number-for-dating-from.html</p> Another company in US also offers anonymous numbers for dating.

Read the full story here: http://voipguides.blogspot.com/2007/01/free-anyonmous-number-for-dating-from.html

]]> By: Ian Andrew Bell http://gigaom.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82095 Ian Andrew Bell Thu, 18 Jan 2007 05:43:37 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82095 <p>Funnily enough, Om, it looks like SONY intends to repeat the same mistakes they failed to recognize in their VHS/Beta battle in the burgeoning BlueRay/HDDVD fray. And the key battlefield is, as you earlier assessed, Pr()N. </p> <p>According to the Inquirer SONY is shunning the Adult biz from the Blu-Ray format. That'll be a big Oops.</p> <p>http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37021</p> <p>-Ian.</p> Funnily enough, Om, it looks like SONY intends to repeat the same mistakes they failed to recognize in their VHS/Beta battle in the burgeoning BlueRay/HDDVD fray. And the key battlefield is, as you earlier assessed, Pr()N.

According to the Inquirer SONY is shunning the Adult biz from the Blu-Ray format. That’ll be a big Oops.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37021

-Ian.

]]> By: michelle http://gigaom.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82094 michelle Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:02:03 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82094 <p>well, once you're on your shadowdate, if you don't like what you see, you could then employ the use of a mobile alibi (www.mobilealibi.com)</p> well, once you’re on your shadowdate, if you don’t like what you see, you could then employ the use of a mobile alibi (www.mobilealibi.com)

]]> By: Toti Stefansson http://gigaom.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82093 Toti Stefansson Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:04:50 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82093 <blockquote> What is the difference between keeping your identity private with a Shadow Number and blocking the Caller ID from your cell phone? </blockquote> <p>If you block your caller ID the recipient doesn't get any caller information, which in many… uh… shadowy scenarios means that they don't answer. With the Shadow Number they do can use that to call you back.</p>

What is the difference between keeping your identity private with a Shadow Number and blocking the Caller ID from your cell phone?

If you block your caller ID the recipient doesn’t get any caller information, which in many… uh… shadowy scenarios means that they don’t answer. With the Shadow Number they do can use that to call you back.

]]> By: Jacob Levy http://gigaom.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82092 Jacob Levy Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:39:18 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82092 <blockquote> <p>What is the difference between keeping your identity private with a Shadow Number and blocking the caller ID from your cell phone?</p> </blockquote> <p>The difference when using Shadow Number is that now you've involved a third party whom you have no knowledge about and no reason to trust. You've just signaled to some unknown intermediary that you have something to hide.</p> <p>No thanks! Keep your Shadow Number, and I'll call in public any time I want to get jiggy-jiggy, there's more anonymity in a crowd than standing out like a sore thumb using this Shadow Number hack.</p>

What is the difference between keeping your
identity private with a Shadow Number and
blocking the caller ID from your cell phone?

The difference when using Shadow Number is that now you’ve involved a third party whom you have no knowledge about and no reason to trust. You’ve just signaled to some unknown intermediary that you have something to hide.

No thanks! Keep your Shadow Number, and I’ll call in public any time I want to get jiggy-jiggy, there’s more anonymity in a crowd than standing out like a sore thumb using this Shadow Number hack.

]]> By: Kanti Purohit http://gigaom.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82091 Kanti Purohit Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:17:29 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82091 <p>What is the difference between keeping your identity private with a Shadow Number and blocking the Caller ID from your cell phone?</p> <p>Thanks.</p> What is the difference between keeping your identity private with a Shadow Number and blocking the Caller ID from your cell phone?

Thanks.

]]> By: Brian http://gigaom.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82088 Brian Mon, 15 Jan 2007 18:45:11 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82088 <p>Who cares. Privacy is privacy - whether it is a conversation or an email - I support anything that tries to be anonymity back to the web. I still say that the greatest threat to the web is the openness that companies like Google push and the Gen X crowd is pionneering. </p> <p>A lot of people dont want to be tracked, listened to or publish their lives on the web. I for one say great. The conveinience of a site saying "Welcome Back Brian" is not without cost - and believe me, companies are not all "do no evil" as goog claims to be..</p> Who cares. Privacy is privacy - whether it is a conversation or an email - I support anything that tries to be anonymity back to the web. I still say that the greatest threat to the web is the openness that companies like Google push and the Gen X crowd is pionneering.

A lot of people dont want to be tracked, listened to or publish their lives on the web. I for one say great. The conveinience of a site saying “Welcome Back Brian” is not without cost - and believe me, companies are not all “do no evil” as goog claims to be..

]]> By: Jon http://gigaom.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82089 Jon Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:54:05 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82089 <p>"Many new technologies — like VHS and DVDs, and more recently Video over the Internet — owe no small part of their early success to adult entertainment…"</p> <p>That statement is right on the money, Om.</p> “Many new technologies — like VHS and DVDs, and more recently Video over the Internet — owe no small part of their early success to adult entertainment…”

That statement is right on the money, Om.

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82090 Om Malik Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:27:34 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82090 <p>I don't think it means "private" from the government. TalkPlus is CALEA compliant so it can be made un-private very quickly once the government decides it wants to listen in.</p> I don’t think it means “private” from the government. TalkPlus is CALEA compliant so it can be made un-private very quickly once the government decides it wants to listen in.

]]> By: Randy Smythe http://gigaom.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82087 Randy Smythe Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:53:20 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82087 <p>If this communication is truly private there will be problems. With this technology all kinds of illegal activities (I won't list them here) can be hidden from view. I like the idea of a truly private conversation but so do the bad guys and you know what the government thinks.</p> If this communication is truly private there will be problems. With this technology all kinds of illegal activities (I won’t list them here) can be hidden from view. I like the idea of a truly private conversation but so do the bad guys and you know what the government thinks.

]]> By: Ian Andrew Bell http://gigaom.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82086 Ian Andrew Bell Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:46:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/15/will-dirty-talk-boost-voip-start-ups/#comment-82086 <p>More interesting and relevant than the VHS/DVD/PR0N analogy is the adult chat line industry, which is hugely profitable.</p> <p>The two big boys in that business are both Canadian: Toronto's LavaLife, which is now owned by a hedge fund, and vancouver's Teligence, which is privately-held.</p> <p>Dirty talk and "hooking up" over the phone are major components of both of their businesses, and in the case of LavaLife which also has a web-based service, are major profit drivers.</p> <p>Teligence markets "Tango Personals" and "LiveLinks", while LavaLife markets "The Night Exchange" and "LavaLife by Phone". Make a call to any of these and the thin veneer of dating and relationships quickly peels back to reveal that they're all about hooking up and talking dirty.</p> <p>This makes those companies natural players, and partners, in this space. Both have major infrastructural investments, though, so the Jangls and TalkPluses should be wary that their strategies are quite replicable and these guys will likely copy and/or integrate their services.</p> <p>-Ian.</p> More interesting and relevant than the VHS/DVD/PR0N analogy is the adult chat line industry, which is hugely profitable.

The two big boys in that business are both Canadian: Toronto’s LavaLife, which is now owned by a hedge fund, and vancouver’s Teligence, which is privately-held.

Dirty talk and “hooking up” over the phone are major components of both of their businesses, and in the case of LavaLife which also has a web-based service, are major profit drivers.

Teligence markets “Tango Personals” and “LiveLinks”, while LavaLife markets “The Night Exchange” and “LavaLife by Phone”. Make a call to any of these and the thin veneer of dating and relationships quickly peels back to reveal that they’re all about hooking up and talking dirty.

This makes those companies natural players, and partners, in this space. Both have major infrastructural investments, though, so the Jangls and TalkPluses should be wary that their strategies are quite replicable and these guys will likely copy and/or integrate their services.

-Ian.

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