Comments on: Now Vodafone does broadband too http://gigaom.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:44:08 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: GigaOM » BT to Invest in FON? http://gigaom.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/#comment-80793 GigaOM » BT to Invest in FON? Wed, 07 Mar 2007 07:54:15 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/#comment-80793 <p>[...] While this does seem like a distant dream, eventually it will happen. Nokia, for instance, is pretty confident that most of its mobile phones in the near future will have Wi-Fi capabilities built into them. BT can offer voice (and other services) over Wi-Fi when in range of a FON node, and when out of range it can switch to the Vodafone network for cellular access. [...]</p> [...] While this does seem like a distant dream, eventually it will happen. Nokia, for instance, is pretty confident that most of its mobile phones in the near future will have Wi-Fi capabilities built into them. BT can offer voice (and other services) over Wi-Fi when in range of a FON node, and when out of range it can switch to the Vodafone network for cellular access. [...]

]]> By: Shefaly http://gigaom.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/#comment-80791 Shefaly Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:19:37 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/#comment-80791 <p>Neither the press release nor your comment clarifies whether the calls to UK landline numbers (not all UK numbers as you suggest) are made using the BT landline or using a VoIP connection. If it is the latter, then probably the following may be excluded - calls to mobiles and to numbers that start with 0845 and 090 or 0870 which are resp. local rate, premium rate and national rate numbers in the UK as is the case with BT Broadband's voice package on offer. </p> <p>I was one of the earliest customers of BT Broadband - when they had only 16 engineers supporting practically all of Southern England's installations (yes, the engineer came home to open up your phone point on the wall; the switchover to 'self service' with a filter to be plugged into the wall socket came about 5 years later). As far as I know, not all BT exchanges currently support 8Mb, so I wonder how Vodafone can make that claim, but I understand that it may be served up with conditionalities in the actual fine print.</p> <p>FInally I think the comparison with Talk-Talk is a bit unfair as it proved to be, well, only talk, as many early subscribers were burnt badly by the provider's inability to service the contracts.</p> Neither the press release nor your comment clarifies whether the calls to UK landline numbers (not all UK numbers as you suggest) are made using the BT landline or using a VoIP connection. If it is the latter, then probably the following may be excluded – calls to mobiles and to numbers that start with 0845 and 090 or 0870 which are resp. local rate, premium rate and national rate numbers in the UK as is the case with BT Broadband’s voice package on offer.

I was one of the earliest customers of BT Broadband – when they had only 16 engineers supporting practically all of Southern England’s installations (yes, the engineer came home to open up your phone point on the wall; the switchover to ’self service’ with a filter to be plugged into the wall socket came about 5 years later). As far as I know, not all BT exchanges currently support 8Mb, so I wonder how Vodafone can make that claim, but I understand that it may be served up with conditionalities in the actual fine print.

FInally I think the comparison with Talk-Talk is a bit unfair as it proved to be, well, only talk, as many early subscribers were burnt badly by the provider’s inability to service the contracts.

]]> By: Steve http://gigaom.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/#comment-80789 Steve Wed, 03 Jan 2007 09:38:39 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/#comment-80789 <p>To clarify: Vodafone UK have been offering fixed broadband access to enterprises for some time, the current "Vodafone Does Broadband" headlines refer only to a consumer launch (PS: VF-UK also launched a consumer dial-up ISP in 1999, but closed it down in 2001-ish).</p> <p>Re: Price Vodafone At Home will be offered free to contract subscribers paying over a certain amount per month.</p> <p>Om: Re: Your off-the-cuff comment: "overpay for a company in emerging growth market for instance". What price is Vodafone paying? What price would you pay?</p> <p>Re: "chase the IMS dream" Who mentioned IMS?</p> To clarify: Vodafone UK have been offering fixed broadband access to enterprises for some time, the current “Vodafone Does Broadband” headlines refer only to a consumer launch (PS: VF-UK also launched a consumer dial-up ISP in 1999, but closed it down in 2001-ish).

Re: Price Vodafone At Home will be offered free to contract subscribers paying over a certain amount per month.

Om: Re: Your off-the-cuff comment: “overpay for a company in emerging growth market for instance”. What price is Vodafone paying? What price would you pay?

Re: “chase the IMS dream” Who mentioned IMS?

]]> By: Andy Abramson http://gigaom.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/#comment-80787 Andy Abramson Wed, 03 Jan 2007 04:20:58 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/#comment-80787 <p>I had Vodafone wireless in my hotel in Frankfurt last week and you couldn't use GizmoProject…they were blocking something like UDP, or port 5060…</p> I had Vodafone wireless in my hotel in Frankfurt last week and you couldn’t use GizmoProject…they were blocking something like UDP, or port 5060…

]]> By: Juha http://gigaom.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/#comment-80785 Juha Wed, 03 Jan 2007 03:50:19 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/#comment-80785 <p>Om… Vodafone's been doing the Zu Hause service in Germany for a while now (http://www.vodafone.de/privat/internet<em>und</em>festnetz/68911.html) and they've had it in Italy too, IIRC. Strictly speaking, Vodafone NZ has had fixed-line broadband in the form of Ihug's first-generation ADSL (resold Telecom NZ DSL), but they're still separate brands.</p> <p>It's Arun Sarin's grand vision that'll apparently take Voda out of the dwindling mobile revenue doldrums. Looks like 3G services didn't work then. :)</p> Om… Vodafone’s been doing the Zu Hause service in Germany for a while now (http://www.vodafone.de/privat/internetundfestnetz/68911.html) and they’ve had it in Italy too, IIRC. Strictly speaking, Vodafone NZ has had fixed-line broadband in the form of Ihug’s first-generation ADSL (resold Telecom NZ DSL), but they’re still separate brands.

It’s Arun Sarin’s grand vision that’ll apparently take Voda out of the dwindling mobile revenue doldrums. Looks like 3G services didn’t work then. :)

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/#comment-80783 Om Malik Wed, 03 Jan 2007 03:32:22 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/#comment-80783 <p>Oh, this is wired broadband. they do offer wireless broadband to their customers in most places.</p> Oh, this is wired broadband. they do offer wireless broadband to their customers in most places.

]]> By: Spud http://gigaom.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/#comment-80781 Spud Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:39:49 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2007/01/02/now-vodafone-does-broadband-too/#comment-80781 <p>I would have thought Vodafone would have had broadband offerings in the UK ages ago. The New zealand division of Vodafone has being offering mobile broadband for a while now and a few months ago they purchased one of New Zealand's largest ISPs (ihug) which also has broadband along with other telecommunication offerings.</p> I would have thought Vodafone would have had broadband offerings in the UK ages ago. The New zealand division of Vodafone has being offering mobile broadband for a while now and a few months ago they purchased one of New Zealand’s largest ISPs (ihug) which also has broadband along with other telecommunication offerings.

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