Parents in india can also buy Nokia N series (eg. N91)
Download Fring s/w on it
Fring is free VOIP. It just needs a GPRS connection,
They can activate Mobile office GPRS Data Connection (Eg On Airtel)
which cost Rs 350/mnth in maharastra.

So i can say it is just free.

Where you read Rudy De Waele, undestand Niekk; and where you read Mark MacLeod, understand Lark.

Sorry guys.

If someone could help me I will apreciate too.

Unfortunatelly I do not have success to use my E70 with Voipbuster , so I would ask Rudy De Waele if he can publish your SIP settings to help me (and others with same problem).

And Mark MacLeod, I am agree with u that this 3 companies have good SIP services that working with ESeries (I use Challenger Mobile too), but remember Challenger Mobile do not be able to make calls to all other kinds of phones (landlines, GSM numbers etc), so you have to have a SIP number to receive or make a call.

1.Challenger mobile
2.Truphone (works with USA SIM’s too)
3.AQL

If you want a true mobile VoIP revolution, check out Voxlib. No client needed, which means any mobile device can use it, not just select smartphones.

The current trial product runs on Skype only, but there is a much bigger story.

Rgds
John

The love-hate relationship phone makers such as Nokia have with the carriers is a well-established fact. In the US, around 90-95% of the handset distribution market is controlled by the carriers (last time I looked), and the last thing carriers want is you calling using your data plan instead of their high voice rates.

On the other hand, non-native applications tend to cause problems such as spontaneously or being inadvertently closed (hit the red hangup key…) which limits their usefulness. The triumph of the mobile phone is in part due to its relative robustness and hassle-free operation. If I have to keep glancing at my phone to check if the data connection has dropped, or the application closed, I will end up not using it at all.

Nokia has a strict policy on release of certain APIs that make or break these types of applications, I know for example that Truphone chased them for a number of months for such a critical API.

The bottom line is that carriers have a strong influence on what phones are manufactured, the ROKR case being a good example.

Regards,

Maybe over here in Europe we have a different view/experience with Nokia then you guys there in US (I haven’t seen too many Nokia users while I was in SV recently). On the mobile music side: I had an iPod before and was a fan, since it broke I bought an N91, now I’m definately not waiting anymore on Apple’s iPhone.

Hope you make it to 3GSM in Barcelona so we can discuss our views more in detail over a cerveza :-)

So that precisely is the point - upgrade firmware - how many average mobile customers are going to do that. i tried the SIP phone instructions, and what not … this is precisely the problem. People are writing about N80ie because how easy it is to set up the accounts etc.

Nokia has a long way to go before this Mobile VoIP.

Fring is great - but only if you have decent connectivity. Anyway Like Truphone, Fring is a non-Nokia solution.

I wrote the Nokia-Gizmo article at Read/WriteWeb. First, I didn’t ment to trouble your recovery day, but these things happen when powering up a laptop on a holiday of course.

Reading your post, I thought your ‘not-exactly accurate nature of all the talk’ and ‘gross exaggeration’ was a bit exaggerated from your side to be honest.

You’re right the N80i is not available yet in US but I’m talking about my European experience, I’ll try to indcate that better next time.

When writing about a new service, I always test it myself, that’s what I did trying out the Gizmo Project on the N80i, no more no less. I cannot see any exaggeration in my post re-reading it.

With my article I just wanted to point out that Nokia is doing GREAT work opening up possibilities for the users, creating MORE options for the users to connect, it’s true there’s still a lot of experiment but due to these experiments and tests they move on with innovation. That’s what’s it’s all about, no?

I definately expect more movement from Nokia in this area this year - including targetting these services to business users in US also.

Cheers.