You Tube & Venice Project, Not The Same Sport

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Gizmodo, and a whole slew of others are commenting about how the Venice Project will destroy YouTube. It sure makes for a nice headline, but is not true. The two services are not even playing the same sport.

YouTube is about people-powered content, the one which included everything from illicit cricket videos to some guy showing off his break dancing skills to short clips of the Daily Show. The Venice Project is about streaming TV over P2P and most of it being professionally created content.

YouTube versus the Venice Project is comparing American Football with Rugby or Aussie Rules Football. Or a farmer’s market (YouTube) with Trader Joe’s (The Venice Project.) More here.

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Dave

It’s the end of Youtube. Youtube isn’t about people powered content, nobody watches that garbage. We (young people) use Youtube to watch The Daily Show and other tv programs we like, most of us could care less about the user powered content.

patricia

I’ve been a long time believer that this is the way video content sites need to go, though I’d anticipate YouTube to offer professional content very soon.

Clint Johnson

What I’m hoping is that The Venice Project will have some level of quality control… YouTube makes you wade through the 99.99999% crap to find the very few videos worth anything. If TVP can keep the crap down to 99% I’d be happy.

What The Venice Project is attempting means that it would be comparing a Junior High School production of Hamlet put online by an A.D.D afflicted member of the A.V. club versus A Royal Shakespeare Company production put online by a recent London Film School graduate.

Then again, 1,000 junior high school students will watch the first video for every 1 that watches the second so YouTube won’t be going anywhere soon.

Frank Daley

Om, I presume your reference to Australian Football was in deference to its status as the most demanding of any football – bar none.

A short Australian Rules YouTube video here>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDjJ_RQEsI8

Of particular note are the segments from the 2 minute to 3 minute mark. Yes, those amazing climbs to catch the ball are called ‘marks’.

Hmm, will the Venice Project provide us with better quality Australian Football videos!!

brian lam

B from Gizmodo here. We were speaking purely from a technical standpoint, which we reserve the right to do as geeks excited by such things. Obviously, venice p isn’t going to reach up and swallow youtube, now or probably ever. But people have been wondering how youtube would offset the bandwidth costs, and P2P is an obvious, but somehow never mentioned, solution. (Never mind implementation details)

Aaron Johnson

Oh, and sorry Om – I beat you to the beta program of TVP. Just had to throw that in there :)

But more importantly I agree with you entirely, they strategies and goals are just too different to compare, bad move on the Gizmodians and over hyped bloggers who wants a impressive story headline.

CyKiller

Aaron Johnson

Come on everyone we are not talking about who can create the most buzz we are talking about business strategies being laid out here. Youtube and The Venice Project canNOT be compared simply on this scope. Granted every company is looking for their own market community (which can be compared), once TVP gains theirs implementation of the business strategy will kick in. They are sure to add in the mix of premium certain channels and content to making a lot more deals than we think the future. Watch out for those plug-ins as well, we may even see a Youtube\Myspace plug-in coming to a Computer screen, future cell phone screen, or gaming console near you!! – AKA platforming is another dangerous ploy.

There are a lot of P2P video streaming software companies out there but where are the strategic business plans that needs to scale at a higher level for this new generation of television? With the background and funding behind TVP they are guaranteed to make some noise in the video market overall not just P2P streaming. So the companies that should be watching out are those cable companies who really just don’t get it about what people want from TV sets and when. Those pesky proprietary download database of TV shows and movies ala iTunes, Xbox live marketplace and many more. P2P is a way to save money on bandwidth for the company who already has a lot of internal backing, but more importantly down the road we “could” see a lot of these same web services being replicated through one online platform. Time can only tell but with the reputation of Janus Friis and Niklas Zennstrom and disruption of markets they have done damage to in the past (which is great for them) just makes me more of a believer these days.

CyKiller

california

i am using TVKoo to watch CNN,CCTV and other channels in Japan, amazing product, no stop at all!

streamer

hi, om, did you tried TVkoo.com, a website based on P2P live streaming technology, I think it is much better than TVP. Since end of 2005, Last one year, millions of users were enjoying the evolution of TVKoo P2P technology, the quality and efficiency are not in the same level TVP could reach.

But with money and fame, TVP might be powerful in the later months. I am especting Venice Project with the better streaming technology as TVkoo did in China.

Nate Westheimer

Sorry, but isn’t the way you keep score the same?

Eyeballs * Time Consuming Content * Advertising = Winning

The internet levels the playing field, right? Well, at least it makes it the same playing field.

Web as a platform means that different sports play the same game.

Alfred Toh

What is it going to prevent Venice project from ever allowing users to create their own channels and upload their own video to Venice project vs uploading to Youtube?

alan patrick

Om,

They are both competing for roughly the same attention space, so there is a clash. Whether its for the same audience I don’t know

Questions I have about TVP are:

(i) how will it really differ from standard IPTV fare…its all the same material if its from the same old distributors (which I assume it is so far)

(ii) How does its advertising model work out re targeting – I think this will be critical.

Sahim

YouTube and The Venice Project are both going to be players in the “content streaming” arena.

So one’s loss is surely going to be others gain.

But the pot is looking quite full right now so hopefully they can all share and still be happy campers.

Nick Mazza

Its certainly possible that TVP could hurt YouTube, though. People go to YouTube to waste time and watch TV/Videos. They will essentially use TVP for the same purpose. I mean Myspace and Instant Messaging were not direct competitors, however the growth and rise of MySpace caused drop in IMing.

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