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	<title>Comments on: Rev A Showdown, Sprint vs Verizon</title>
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		<title>By: johnny b.s.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/13/sprint-verizon-evdo-rev-a/#comment-129786</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[johnny b.s.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Do you have a clue what you are talking about? Cingular&#039;s data cards are not faster than Sprint or Verizon! They are lucky if they are on 2.5G when others are working on WiMax, not sure if you have heard of that? 5x faster than broadband at home!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you have a clue what you are talking about? Cingular&#8217;s data cards are not faster than Sprint or Verizon! They are lucky if they are on 2.5G when others are working on WiMax, not sure if you have heard of that? 5x faster than broadband at home!</p>
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		<title>By: sunil</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/13/sprint-verizon-evdo-rev-a/#comment-129785</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;The interesting story is the Sprint and VZW race in that Sprint projected 40M Rev A POPS by the end of 06 and they just announced 60M (12/12). VZW will have to come close.  They&#039;re waiting for a nice critical mass to surprise the market.  More coverage = more marketing blitz and bragging rights.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting story is the Sprint and VZW race in that Sprint projected 40M Rev A POPS by the end of 06 and they just announced 60M (12/12). VZW will have to come close.  They&#8217;re waiting for a nice critical mass to surprise the market.  More coverage = more marketing blitz and bragging rights.</p>
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		<title>By: PalmTech</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PalmTech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Jesse,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cingular DOES have a 3G network active now in almost all major market areas. I run an IT Services company and have both Verizon and Cingular deployed for my technicians for remote support and other applications.  They are both good products.  In the West Palm Beach market I routinely get +-700Kbps down and +-100Kbps up on Verison.  On the new Cingular 3G network (HSDPA) I get 1.3Mbps down and 300Kbps up.  The biggest difference between the two in my opninion is customer service and ultimate expandablility of the network.  Cingular has the current lead in speed but their customer service is horrible.  I had to go through a VP in the company to get my IP addressed exposed to the public internet so my mobile servers would work with a wireless HSDPA router.  Verizon by default allows you to receive incoming IP traffic so it is a non-issue.  That being said, Cingular is a LOT faster and in the coming quarter they are raising the base transmission speed from 1.8Mbps to 7.2Mbps.  The maximum speed of HSDPA is 14.4 currently, so there is even more room to grow on the current platform.  Verizon and Sprint need to do more than just a Rev.A upgrade if they want to compete in a bandwidth hungry world.  EV-DO&#039;s theoretical maximum of 3.6Mbps (Rev.A) isn&#039;t going to cut it for long.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse,</p>
<p>Cingular DOES have a 3G network active now in almost all major market areas. I run an IT Services company and have both Verizon and Cingular deployed for my technicians for remote support and other applications.  They are both good products.  In the West Palm Beach market I routinely get +-700Kbps down and +-100Kbps up on Verison.  On the new Cingular 3G network (HSDPA) I get 1.3Mbps down and 300Kbps up.  The biggest difference between the two in my opninion is customer service and ultimate expandablility of the network.  Cingular has the current lead in speed but their customer service is horrible.  I had to go through a VP in the company to get my IP addressed exposed to the public internet so my mobile servers would work with a wireless HSDPA router.  Verizon by default allows you to receive incoming IP traffic so it is a non-issue.  That being said, Cingular is a LOT faster and in the coming quarter they are raising the base transmission speed from 1.8Mbps to 7.2Mbps.  The maximum speed of HSDPA is 14.4 currently, so there is even more room to grow on the current platform.  Verizon and Sprint need to do more than just a Rev.A upgrade if they want to compete in a bandwidth hungry world.  EV-DO&#8217;s theoretical maximum of 3.6Mbps (Rev.A) isn&#8217;t going to cut it for long.</p>
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		<title>By: EVDO guy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/13/sprint-verizon-evdo-rev-a/#comment-129783</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EVDO guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 03:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;It is for real, we ordered the AirCard 595 today from Verizon and will have them in stock tomorrow, look for news from Verizon tomorrow.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is for real, we ordered the AirCard 595 today from Verizon and will have them in stock tomorrow, look for news from Verizon tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/13/sprint-verizon-evdo-rev-a/#comment-129782</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse Kopelman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Until Cingular roles out HSUPA, EVDO Rev A carriers like Sprint and Verizon will kick their ass in uploads. If you do things like sending e-mail with attachments, you want the better upload performance. This is a rapidly changing field as every year for the next 3 carriers will be rolling out netowrk upgrades to leapfrog each other, many of them requiring new subscriber devices to get the benefit. Unless you don&#039;t care about price or don&#039;t mind haggling over contract extensions, I&#039;d just pick the carrier who has the best overall coverage in the places you go and forget about trying to stay on the cutting edge of technology.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until Cingular roles out HSUPA, EVDO Rev A carriers like Sprint and Verizon will kick their ass in uploads. If you do things like sending e-mail with attachments, you want the better upload performance. This is a rapidly changing field as every year for the next 3 carriers will be rolling out netowrk upgrades to leapfrog each other, many of them requiring new subscriber devices to get the benefit. Unless you don&#8217;t care about price or don&#8217;t mind haggling over contract extensions, I&#8217;d just pick the carrier who has the best overall coverage in the places you go and forget about trying to stay on the cutting edge of technology.</p>
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		<title>By: chickadee</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/13/sprint-verizon-evdo-rev-a/#comment-129781</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chickadee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 20:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Cingular is in a lot of markets, but last I looked, if you&#039;re in Denver or anywhere on Colorado&#039;s Front Range, you&#039;ll have to stick with EV-DO from Sprint or Verizon. Cingular still doesn&#039;t have 3G in that neck of the woods, or a lot of other markets for that matter.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cingular is in a lot of markets, but last I looked, if you&#8217;re in Denver or anywhere on Colorado&#8217;s Front Range, you&#8217;ll have to stick with EV-DO from Sprint or Verizon. Cingular still doesn&#8217;t have 3G in that neck of the woods, or a lot of other markets for that matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/13/sprint-verizon-evdo-rev-a/#comment-129780</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 20:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Where does Cingular&#039;s wireless broadband for noteboods, 3G offering, fit in to this?  Is it old, new, better, worse?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where does Cingular&#8217;s wireless broadband for noteboods, 3G offering, fit in to this?  Is it old, new, better, worse?</p>
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		<title>By: joe joe bean</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/13/sprint-verizon-evdo-rev-a/#comment-129779</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joe joe bean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 20:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;go get a UMTS/HSDPA data card from Cingular&#8230;speeds are the same, if not faster, and there are currently 69 major cities running the network&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>go get a UMTS/HSDPA data card from Cingular&#8230;speeds are the same, if not faster, and there are currently 69 major cities running the network&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Ferrante</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/13/sprint-verizon-evdo-rev-a/#comment-129778</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Ferrante]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;A month or 2 ago I noticed a nice change in the time it takes to connect and the download speed on  my ev-do Verizon connection in Orlando.  Not certain that we&#039;ve got rev-a, but it sure does feel like something changed for the better.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A month or 2 ago I noticed a nice change in the time it takes to connect and the download speed on  my ev-do Verizon connection in Orlando.  Not certain that we&#8217;ve got rev-a, but it sure does feel like something changed for the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/13/sprint-verizon-evdo-rev-a/#comment-129777</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse Kopelman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;SlashChick, you should always check to see if you can get a discount on a new device if you do an early renewal on your contract (i.e. the 2-year clock starts anew). Always be willing to threaten to break your contract. The retail price for a Rev A cards is $200 - $250 . . .&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SlashChick, you should always check to see if you can get a discount on a new device if you do an early renewal on your contract (i.e. the 2-year clock starts anew). Always be willing to threaten to break your contract. The retail price for a Rev A cards is $200 &#8211; $250 . . .</p>
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		<title>By: SlashChick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/13/sprint-verizon-evdo-rev-a/#comment-129776</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SlashChick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Damn, and I just bought a Sprint Power Vision card. Oh well&#8230;good thing I only spent $45 on it. Unfortunately, that means I&#039;m already locked in to my 2-year agreement, and will have to buy a new card at retail. Argh!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, and I just bought a Sprint Power Vision card. Oh well&#8230;good thing I only spent $45 on it. Unfortunately, that means I&#8217;m already locked in to my 2-year agreement, and will have to buy a new card at retail. Argh!</p>
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		<title>By: EVDO - Direct Connect?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/13/sprint-verizon-evdo-rev-a/#comment-129775</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EVDO - Direct Connect?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;EVDO REV A is a must build out for Sprint. In the roadmap, the company will replace the IDEN direct connect service with Qchat (or similar product which requires high speed data). Expect fast and large growth of the Sprint REV A network.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVDO REV A is a must build out for Sprint. In the roadmap, the company will replace the IDEN direct connect service with Qchat (or similar product which requires high speed data). Expect fast and large growth of the Sprint REV A network.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/13/sprint-verizon-evdo-rev-a/#comment-129774</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Sorry Jeffrey, you are pure out of luck. You might want to go and throw a fit with your retailer.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Jeffrey, you are pure out of luck. You might want to go and throw a fit with your retailer.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey McManus</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/13/sprint-verizon-evdo-rev-a/#comment-129773</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey McManus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;So what does this mean if I have an EVDO device I purchased like 8 months ago, will it work with rev A automatically?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what does this mean if I have an EVDO device I purchased like 8 months ago, will it work with rev A automatically?</p>
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