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	<title>Comments on: Yahoo &amp; Facebook: Deal or No Deal?</title>
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		<title>By: Across the GigaOM Network</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-985257</link>
		<dc:creator>Across the GigaOM Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] proposes Yahoo should build its own Facebook [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: &#187; Yahoo欲以16亿美元收购Facebook - 李涛-电子商务博客网站</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Yahoo欲以16亿美元收购Facebook - 李涛-电子商务博客网站</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 00:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] 今年一直盛传Yahoo将收购Facebook。Robert Young上周撰文“Yahoo和Facebook能成交吗？”，仍旧是质疑这一案。 [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: sword&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yahoo欲以16亿美元收购Facebook，及对Facebook收购企图的回顾</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-722384</link>
		<dc:creator>sword&#8217;s blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yahoo欲以16亿美元收购Facebook，及对Facebook收购企图的回顾</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 01:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...]     今年一直盛传Yahoo将收购Facebook。Robert Young上周撰文“Yahoo和Facebook能成交吗？”，仍旧是质疑这一案。 [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Yahoo&#8217;s &#8220;Project Fraternity&#8221; Docs Leaked</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-616000</link>
		<dc:creator>Yahoo&#8217;s &#8220;Project Fraternity&#8221; Docs Leaked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] this attention, but the media is getting antsy. Robert Young put it best last week when he asked - Yahoo &amp; Facebook: Deal or No Deal?. That is certainly the question of the fiscal [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this attention, but the media is getting antsy. Robert Young put it best last week when he asked &#8211; Yahoo &amp; Facebook: Deal or No Deal?. That is certainly the question of the fiscal [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Social networks? Keep me out of the loop &#171; Jeff&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-599089</link>
		<dc:creator>Social networks? Keep me out of the loop &#171; Jeff&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 07:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] would therefore today be absolutely enormous; Yahoo owns Geocities. Yahoo, some people have pointed out recently, is not [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Are Facebook and Geocities similar??</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-597037</link>
		<dc:creator>Are Facebook and Geocities similar??</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 03:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] would therefore today be absolutely enormous; Yahoo owns Geocities. Yahoo, some people have pointed out recently, is not [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Penny Boyd</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-584533</link>
		<dc:creator>Penny Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 23:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I would love to be on your show.We are rasing our 6year old grandson.So Please Let Me Be On Your Show.I&#039;am from Lawrenceburg,Tenn.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to be on your show.We are rasing our 6year old grandson.So Please Let Me Be On Your Show.I&#8217;am from Lawrenceburg,Tenn.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TechJuicer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yahoo Wants To Get Into Social Networking</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-76696</link>
		<dc:creator>TechJuicer &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Yahoo Wants To Get Into Social Networking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 10:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] There is now another rumur that Yahoo want to take over Bebo. This follows the rumur that Yahoo made an offer for Facebook. The still want to get into social [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Information Architects Japan &#187; iA Notebook &#187; Web 2.0 unchains free market</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-76695</link>
		<dc:creator>Information Architects Japan &#187; iA Notebook &#187; Web 2.0 unchains free market</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] high profile users and their data are Facebook&#8217;s capital. It is not the code. In consequence, if Facebook gets sold for one or two or eight billion Dollars, every Facebook user should get a share - depending on their contribution. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-76694</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i love this&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love this</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-76693</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 14:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I love this because it is cool&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Pramit Singh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-76692</link>
		<dc:creator>Pramit Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;MediaVidea has written in detail about Big Web companies vs. the startups and why they should not spend so much on startups.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://mediavidea.blogspot.com/2006/12/why-google-yahoo-and-microsoft-should.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MediaVidea has written in detail about Big Web companies vs. the startups and why they should not spend so much on startups.</p>

<p><a href="http://mediavidea.blogspot.com/2006/12/why-google-yahoo-and-microsoft-should.html" rel="nofollow">http://mediavidea.blogspot.com/2006/12/why-google-yahoo-and-microsoft-should.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Theodore King</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-76691</link>
		<dc:creator>Theodore King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 01:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Facebook has strong network effects. If Yahoo was to pay 1 bn+, the bulk of that goodwill would be for Facebook&#039;s network effects.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your suggestion of cloning facebook could potentially work, but Yahoo&#039;s management is simply so poor that the likelihood of properly executing a kill-facebook plan would be low if not nil.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If anyone from Yahoo is reading this and would like my detailed 2 cents (my email is thw@wharton.upenn.edu). I&#039;ve competed with Facebook in Singapore (I launched an SNS with less than $2k got 3500 users, and Facebook jumped in roughly 1 mth after us.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Our realization was that the SNS model alone simply doesn&#039;t work.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Those of you who believe that Facebook is entrenched permanently are dead wrong. What all of you are forgetting is that there is a significantly larger K-12 market, particularly for High School students. These users are unencumbered with pre-conceptions, and many of them have not registered or even heard of Facebook. (Many of you will recall Facebook&#039;s huge push into the HS market, Facebook knows that it needs to secure the HS market and continue to secure it - or else their advantage will slowly dissipate).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are 4-4.5 mm incoming college students (roughly 1/3-1/4 of Facebook&#039;s total base).
Facebook will likely keep its lead with Classes below 2010-2011 and with college alumni, but if Yahoo was to make a strong push, they should do it in K-12, and integrate an Education package.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is my kill two birds with one stone approach:
-Rapidly deploy an Education suite (like Google Apps for Education) with an SNS built in
-Approach IT Admins at schools and offer Yahoo Mail (in the school&#039;s interface) with 1 gb as a replacement for School Webmails (most IT admins will fall over themselves to take Yahoo up on this, especially since Google is lagging with Gmail approvals) (this will enable Yahoo to grab users fast, college students check their email as much or more than facebook)
-Buy a Learning Management System (something like Blackboard and integrate it with the SNS): this will enable Yahoo to integrate courses and homework (even more traffic to monetize) and great for K-12s or Colleges that don&#039;t want to pay Blackboard $1mm/yr in license fees).
-Customize the system for New Student Orientations (several schools such as UChicago, Upenn already offer Facebook/Friendster clones to their new students during orientation, Yahoo should actively court these schools)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rapidly promote the product to K-12s and to Colleges. Get market share.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This strategy if executed properly would enable Yahoo to fight back Google in the Education space (something Yahoo doesn&#039;t seem to be paying much attention to, but is critical) and grab users en masse through administrative channels (e.g. Webmail, etc.).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW my company is working on the &quot;kill two birds with one stone&quot; strategy so if anyone from Yahoo is reading, seriously email me. You guys are missing ideas and plans, I have plans + ideas + a deployable system.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook has strong network effects. If Yahoo was to pay 1 bn+, the bulk of that goodwill would be for Facebook&#8217;s network effects.</p>

<p>Your suggestion of cloning facebook could potentially work, but Yahoo&#8217;s management is simply so poor that the likelihood of properly executing a kill-facebook plan would be low if not nil.</p>

<p>If anyone from Yahoo is reading this and would like my detailed 2 cents (my email is <a href="mailto:thw@wharton.upenn.edu">thw@wharton.upenn.edu</a>). I&#8217;ve competed with Facebook in Singapore (I launched an SNS with less than $2k got 3500 users, and Facebook jumped in roughly 1 mth after us.</p>

<p>Our realization was that the SNS model alone simply doesn&#8217;t work.</p>

<p>Those of you who believe that Facebook is entrenched permanently are dead wrong. What all of you are forgetting is that there is a significantly larger K-12 market, particularly for High School students. These users are unencumbered with pre-conceptions, and many of them have not registered or even heard of Facebook. (Many of you will recall Facebook&#8217;s huge push into the HS market, Facebook knows that it needs to secure the HS market and continue to secure it &#8211; or else their advantage will slowly dissipate).</p>

<p>There are 4-4.5 mm incoming college students (roughly 1/3-1/4 of Facebook&#8217;s total base).
Facebook will likely keep its lead with Classes below 2010-2011 and with college alumni, but if Yahoo was to make a strong push, they should do it in K-12, and integrate an Education package.</p>

<p>This is my kill two birds with one stone approach:
-Rapidly deploy an Education suite (like Google Apps for Education) with an SNS built in
-Approach IT Admins at schools and offer Yahoo Mail (in the school&#8217;s interface) with 1 gb as a replacement for School Webmails (most IT admins will fall over themselves to take Yahoo up on this, especially since Google is lagging with Gmail approvals) (this will enable Yahoo to grab users fast, college students check their email as much or more than facebook)
-Buy a Learning Management System (something like Blackboard and integrate it with the SNS): this will enable Yahoo to integrate courses and homework (even more traffic to monetize) and great for K-12s or Colleges that don&#8217;t want to pay Blackboard $1mm/yr in license fees).
-Customize the system for New Student Orientations (several schools such as UChicago, Upenn already offer Facebook/Friendster clones to their new students during orientation, Yahoo should actively court these schools)</p>

<p>Rapidly promote the product to K-12s and to Colleges. Get market share.</p>

<p>This strategy if executed properly would enable Yahoo to fight back Google in the Education space (something Yahoo doesn&#8217;t seem to be paying much attention to, but is critical) and grab users en masse through administrative channels (e.g. Webmail, etc.).</p>

<p>BTW my company is working on the &#8220;kill two birds with one stone&#8221; strategy so if anyone from Yahoo is reading, seriously email me. You guys are missing ideas and plans, I have plans + ideas + a deployable system.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: matt schulte</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-76690</link>
		<dc:creator>matt schulte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Eric took the words right out of my mouth. The approach he recommends &quot;Introduce a high level “Yahoo profile” with social network features (friends lists and the such), and span it across everything; let organic networks form around photo sharing, autos, cooking, even finance - with that profile being customized according to whatever site section you’re looking at.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#8230;that&#039;s the ticket. Organic networks forming around actual usage of Yahoo&#039;s services&#8230;maybe even the addition of an ajaxian widget that, as you navigate the Yahoo network, shows profiles that match a certain number/type of your preferences on that service&#8230;so your &quot;friends&quot; are constantly morphing based on &#039;where&#039;you are and what you are doing/have done on the Yahoo network..and when you &quot;save&quot; a story, or photo or vid, or post, to your widget&#039;s &quot;save&quot; box, it saves it as well to your organic network friends widget&#039;s inbox. And you can set your preference to view selected friend&#039;s input, or view-all.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric took the words right out of my mouth. The approach he recommends &#8220;Introduce a high level “Yahoo profile” with social network features (friends lists and the such), and span it across everything; let organic networks form around photo sharing, autos, cooking, even finance &#8211; with that profile being customized according to whatever site section you’re looking at.&#8221;</p>

<p>&#8230;that&#8217;s the ticket. Organic networks forming around actual usage of Yahoo&#8217;s services&#8230;maybe even the addition of an ajaxian widget that, as you navigate the Yahoo network, shows profiles that match a certain number/type of your preferences on that service&#8230;so your &#8220;friends&#8221; are constantly morphing based on &#8216;where&#8217;you are and what you are doing/have done on the Yahoo network..and when you &#8220;save&#8221; a story, or photo or vid, or post, to your widget&#8217;s &#8220;save&#8221; box, it saves it as well to your organic network friends widget&#8217;s inbox. And you can set your preference to view selected friend&#8217;s input, or view-all.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Spud</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-76689</link>
		<dc:creator>Spud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 19:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think Yahoo should come up with their own design and innovative social network site. Surely that&#039;s better than trying to copy what someone has already done. ie Facebook. It&#039;s that lack of innovation that is holding Yahoo back.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Yahoo should come up with their own design and innovative social network site. Surely that&#8217;s better than trying to copy what someone has already done. ie Facebook. It&#8217;s that lack of innovation that is holding Yahoo back.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/yahoo-facebook/#comment-76688</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 18:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Anyone can whip together a social networking site practically overnight. If &quot;start your own&quot; was any kind of solution, every company would be doing it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Getting users is the tricky part. Simply cloning facebook isn&#039;t going to inspire any users to either switch sites or even to use both products at once.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;IMHO, if there&#039;s any acquisitions that Yahoo should be looking at, it&#039;s SixApart and/or Technorati. Blogs are still social media, and Livejournal is still alive and kicking as a social networking site goes. And Yahoo&#039;s got nothing right not as far as blogging goes, that&#039;s the hole they need to plug.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But even that said - it&#039;d be smarter for them to focus on what they have.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rather than try to clone Facebook, I&#039;d suggest to Yahoo that they leverage their real strength: A mind boggling array of properties that capture almost every interest a person could have. Introduce a high level &quot;Yahoo profile&quot; with social network features (friends lists and the such), and span it across everything; let organic networks form around photo sharing, autos, cooking, even finance - with that profile being customized according to whatever site section you&#039;re looking at.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Or minimally they should brush the dust off of their groups offering and better integrate their other services into that (Like why does each group get an abhorrent interface that allows all of 10 mb of photos, instead of simply linking itself to a Flickr photo pool?)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone can whip together a social networking site practically overnight. If &#8220;start your own&#8221; was any kind of solution, every company would be doing it.</p>

<p>Getting users is the tricky part. Simply cloning facebook isn&#8217;t going to inspire any users to either switch sites or even to use both products at once.</p>

<p>IMHO, if there&#8217;s any acquisitions that Yahoo should be looking at, it&#8217;s SixApart and/or Technorati. Blogs are still social media, and Livejournal is still alive and kicking as a social networking site goes. And Yahoo&#8217;s got nothing right not as far as blogging goes, that&#8217;s the hole they need to plug.</p>

<p>But even that said &#8211; it&#8217;d be smarter for them to focus on what they have.</p>

<p>Rather than try to clone Facebook, I&#8217;d suggest to Yahoo that they leverage their real strength: A mind boggling array of properties that capture almost every interest a person could have. Introduce a high level &#8220;Yahoo profile&#8221; with social network features (friends lists and the such), and span it across everything; let organic networks form around photo sharing, autos, cooking, even finance &#8211; with that profile being customized according to whatever site section you&#8217;re looking at.</p>

<p>Or minimally they should brush the dust off of their groups offering and better integrate their other services into that (Like why does each group get an abhorrent interface that allows all of 10 mb of photos, instead of simply linking itself to a Flickr photo pool?)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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