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		<title>By: Xslimmer Revisited at The Apple Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/xslimmer-at-macappaday/#comment-315536</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xslimmer Revisited at The Apple Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 21:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] A few weeks ago I mentioned my reservations about Xslimmer, which I got for free from the MacAppADay promotion. Several people chimed-in with the same fears, so I definitely was not alone in my paranoia. But I backed my system up, launched Xslimmer, and dove in head first. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A few weeks ago I mentioned my reservations about Xslimmer, which I got for free from the MacAppADay promotion. Several people chimed-in with the same fears, so I definitely was not alone in my paranoia. But I backed my system up, launched Xslimmer, and dove in head first. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Billifer</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/xslimmer-at-macappaday/#comment-315535</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Billifer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 05:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[weldon -- For most apps, that&#039;s true. Some, though, tend to actually double in size from single-platform to Universal. I don&#039;t remember which, but several of the apps I slimmed went down by 50 percent or so.

I think largely it depends on whether the app includes any dylibs, frameworks, extensions, etc., of its own (which would also be Universal and thus available for slimming).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>weldon &#8212; For most apps, that&#8217;s true. Some, though, tend to actually double in size from single-platform to Universal. I don&#8217;t remember which, but several of the apps I slimmed went down by 50 percent or so.</p>
<p>I think largely it depends on whether the app includes any dylibs, frameworks, extensions, etc., of its own (which would also be Universal and thus available for slimming).</p>
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		<title>By: weldon</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/xslimmer-at-macappaday/#comment-315534</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[weldon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 19:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think it&#039;s worth it. The biggest part of an app bundle are all the resources like images, interface elements, sounds, etc. Trimming out the binary code is the smallest part of the app. You&#039;ll do a lot better getting rid of themes in iLife and sample loops or instruments in Garage Band.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s worth it. The biggest part of an app bundle are all the resources like images, interface elements, sounds, etc. Trimming out the binary code is the smallest part of the app. You&#8217;ll do a lot better getting rid of themes in iLife and sample loops or instruments in Garage Band.</p>
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		<title>By: Smaran</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/xslimmer-at-macappaday/#comment-315533</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smaran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 09:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t use Xslimmer on the beta release of Adium! It completely destroys it. I can&#039;t even launch the app anymore! ARGH.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t use Xslimmer on the beta release of Adium! It completely destroys it. I can&#8217;t even launch the app anymore! ARGH.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Tavera</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/xslimmer-at-macappaday/#comment-315532</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vincent Tavera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 03:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t read all the comments, but the post I am commenting on said that xslimmer was for intel macs, but it works on ppc to remove intel portions of apps as well. :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read all the comments, but the post I am commenting on said that xslimmer was for intel macs, but it works on ppc to remove intel portions of apps as well. :D</p>
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		<title>By: Billifer</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/xslimmer-at-macappaday/#comment-315531</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Billifer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 19:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nick and Grant -- Glad that my comments helped persuade you to give XSlimmer a second chance. I&#039;m not getting any kickbacks from them, but I like good apps that accomplish tasks simply and cleanly. This is one of them. For me as a former Unix admin and kernel programmer, the &quot;safely&quot; portion is just icing on the cake, but I can see how others would balk at scrambling the bits of their executables.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick and Grant &#8212; Glad that my comments helped persuade you to give XSlimmer a second chance. I&#8217;m not getting any kickbacks from them, but I like good apps that accomplish tasks simply and cleanly. This is one of them. For me as a former Unix admin and kernel programmer, the &#8220;safely&#8221; portion is just icing on the cake, but I can see how others would balk at scrambling the bits of their executables.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/xslimmer-at-macappaday/#comment-315530</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 06:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to all who chimed in. I will be busy slimming down all of my apps now if anyone needs me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to all who chimed in. I will be busy slimming down all of my apps now if anyone needs me.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Santilli</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/xslimmer-at-macappaday/#comment-315529</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Santilli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 00:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Billifer - Thank you for the detailed explanations.  I must say I feel a lot better about giving the thing a fair shot after all that.

And I&#039;m extremely impressed by the &#039;nearly a gig&#039; of space freed-up.  I wonder how that translates to a similar trial on an Intel machine...maybe I should find out.

Thanks again for the input]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billifer &#8211; Thank you for the detailed explanations.  I must say I feel a lot better about giving the thing a fair shot after all that.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m extremely impressed by the &#8216;nearly a gig&#8217; of space freed-up.  I wonder how that translates to a similar trial on an Intel machine&#8230;maybe I should find out.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the input</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Punsalan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/xslimmer-at-macappaday/#comment-315528</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek Punsalan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wanted to chime in with my thoughts on the application. I think it&#039;s a great utility for anyone running UB apps / utilities on their Macs. I feel comfortable dropping any apps into Xslimmer due to the fact that backups are created in the directory of my choosing. Great way to cut the fat out of UB apps when the extra archicture has no effect on your system performance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to chime in with my thoughts on the application. I think it&#8217;s a great utility for anyone running UB apps / utilities on their Macs. I feel comfortable dropping any apps into Xslimmer due to the fact that backups are created in the directory of my choosing. Great way to cut the fat out of UB apps when the extra archicture has no effect on your system performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Billifer</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/xslimmer-at-macappaday/#comment-315527</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Billifer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ben&#039;s right: XSlimmer doesn&#039;t help only those of you on newer MacBook (Pro) systems, but also those of us running on PowerBooks, iBooks, etc. We need Universal binaries even less than you do on Intel systems.

XSlimmer, by default, will not allow you to thin an application that exists in /System, /Library, or /Developer (even though some of these can be slimmed just fine). It also supports a blacklist of applications that cease to work correctly after they&#039;ve been thinned &#8212; Linotype FontExplorer X, for example. Also, a preference can be set to backup all applications to another directory before thinning them.

Those three functions make XSlimmer a fair shot &lt;b&gt;safer&lt;/b&gt; than using the Tiger-bundled command-line tool lipo to accomplish the same thing. [lipo, for instance, will allow you to overwrite a file, without making a backup first, even if it&#039;s a single executable file (or dylib or what-have-you), not just an application bundle (*.app), which is all XSlimmer will allow in my experience of the application.]

I downloaded XSlimmer from MAAD last night, ran it through my entire Applications folder, most of my Developer folder (knowing what not to touch), and ended up saving close to a &lt;b&gt;full gigabyte of space&lt;/b&gt; on my PowerBook G4. That&#039;s substantially more than &quot;a couple megs of bloat.&quot;

Those who play things hypercautiously and don&#039;t even like the idea of changing desktop backgrounds or from &quot;Blue&quot; to &quot;Graphite&quot; might want to avoid using XSlimmer, but for most users, XSlimmer takes sufficient safeguards to ensure that any mistakes can be corrected. Just be sure to &lt;i&gt;run the thinned app&lt;/i&gt; to make sure it&#039;s A-OK before deleting the backed-up copy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben&#8217;s right: XSlimmer doesn&#8217;t help only those of you on newer MacBook (Pro) systems, but also those of us running on PowerBooks, iBooks, etc. We need Universal binaries even less than you do on Intel systems.</p>
<p>XSlimmer, by default, will not allow you to thin an application that exists in /System, /Library, or /Developer (even though some of these can be slimmed just fine). It also supports a blacklist of applications that cease to work correctly after they&#8217;ve been thinned &mdash; Linotype FontExplorer X, for example. Also, a preference can be set to backup all applications to another directory before thinning them.</p>
<p>Those three functions make XSlimmer a fair shot <b>safer</b> than using the Tiger-bundled command-line tool lipo to accomplish the same thing. [lipo, for instance, will allow you to overwrite a file, without making a backup first, even if it's a single executable file (or dylib or what-have-you), not just an application bundle (*.app), which is all XSlimmer will allow in my experience of the application.]</p>
<p>I downloaded XSlimmer from MAAD last night, ran it through my entire Applications folder, most of my Developer folder (knowing what not to touch), and ended up saving close to a <b>full gigabyte of space</b> on my PowerBook G4. That&#8217;s substantially more than &#8220;a couple megs of bloat.&#8221;</p>
<p>Those who play things hypercautiously and don&#8217;t even like the idea of changing desktop backgrounds or from &#8220;Blue&#8221; to &#8220;Graphite&#8221; might want to avoid using XSlimmer, but for most users, XSlimmer takes sufficient safeguards to ensure that any mistakes can be corrected. Just be sure to <i>run the thinned app</i> to make sure it&#8217;s A-OK before deleting the backed-up copy.</p>
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