Comments on: GPS, Back In the Day http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:00:28 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Geotagging the precise location « reDesign http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-153491 Geotagging the precise location « reDesign Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:45:04 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-153491 <p>[...] the rapidly falling price and shrinking size of GPS chips, I’d like to see camera manufacturers embed a GPS chip in the camera and have the camera [...]</p> [...] the rapidly falling price and shrinking size of GPS chips, I’d like to see camera manufacturers embed a GPS chip in the camera and have the camera [...]

]]> By: reDesign http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76707 reDesign Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:53:13 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76707 <p><strong>Geotagging the precise location...</strong></p> <p>I upped my nerd rating this weekend by hiking the Billy Goat Trail with a GPS attached to my wrist. It’s a trail just a few miles from DC, so I wasn’t worried about getting lost. I just wanted the exact location of the pictures I took, so t...</p> Geotagging the precise location…

I upped my nerd rating this weekend by hiking the Billy Goat Trail with a GPS attached to my wrist. It’s a trail just a few miles from DC, so I wasn’t worried about getting lost. I just wanted the exact location of the pictures I took, so t…

]]> By: Jesse Kopelman http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76706 Jesse Kopelman Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:37:59 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76706 <p>john genter, many phones do have this capability if you put them in "engineering mode." One big problem is that most new phones use A-GPS which is single channel GPS augmented by triangulation information from the network. Single channel GPS makes for much cheaper GPS receivers, but it is not very accurate without the triangulation information from the network. That aside, it is not like every phone has GPS. It is only standard in CDMA and iDEN phones, right now. Given that the US market is pretty evenly split between CDMA/iDEN and GSM/TDMA/AMPS, any given person only has a 50% chance of having a GPS chip in their phone.</p> john genter, many phones do have this capability if you put them in “engineering mode.” One big problem is that most new phones use A-GPS which is single channel GPS augmented by triangulation information from the network. Single channel GPS makes for much cheaper GPS receivers, but it is not very accurate without the triangulation information from the network. That aside, it is not like every phone has GPS. It is only standard in CDMA and iDEN phones, right now. Given that the US market is pretty evenly split between CDMA/iDEN and GSM/TDMA/AMPS, any given person only has a 50% chance of having a GPS chip in their phone.

]]> By: john genter http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76705 john genter Mon, 11 Dec 2006 02:04:45 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76705 <p>Why don't cell phone that are gps enabled have the ability to display current latitude and longitude? James Kim could have gotten position info from his phone even without cell service - if cell phones shared this info with their users - but they don't (except for phones with full navigation features). The Kims could have checked their position against their maps and found that they were not 4 miles from the nearest town. This could have been critical in helping Mr. Kim decide where to go for help. </p> <p>So, why don't cell phones have the ability to display position? Sure, most people would not know how to use the info, but for the few cents cost this feature would add, why not splurge? And besides, the Kims would likely have been just the folks who would have benefitted.</p> <p>I have read literally hundreds of comments regarding the Kims and I am surprised that this has not come up.</p> Why don’t cell phone that are gps enabled have the ability to display current latitude and longitude? James Kim could have gotten position info from his phone even without cell service – if cell phones shared this info with their users – but they don’t (except for phones with full navigation features). The Kims could have checked their position against their maps and found that they were not 4 miles from the nearest town. This could have been critical in helping Mr. Kim decide where to go for help.

So, why don’t cell phones have the ability to display position? Sure, most people would not know how to use the info, but for the few cents cost this feature would add, why not splurge? And besides, the Kims would likely have been just the folks who would have benefitted.

I have read literally hundreds of comments regarding the Kims and I am surprised that this has not come up.

]]> By: Justin Kistner http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76704 Justin Kistner Sat, 09 Dec 2006 22:31:49 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76704 <p>I have mixed feelings about GPS enabled cell phones. On the one hand, I think they are going to open a whole new world of connectivity. However, I'm concerned about the privacy implications. I know that they are inevitable and after a few problems, we'll work it out. In the mean time, I'm going to enjoy Buddy Beacons.</p> I have mixed feelings about GPS enabled cell phones. On the one hand, I think they are going to open a whole new world of connectivity. However, I’m concerned about the privacy implications. I know that they are inevitable and after a few problems, we’ll work it out. In the mean time, I’m going to enjoy Buddy Beacons.

]]> By: Mike http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76703 Mike Sat, 09 Dec 2006 13:41:03 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76703 <p>I remember that I brought the second GPS unit that was seen at my local airfield, a Garmin GPS 55 AVD, which looked like:</p> <p>(Are URLs not allowed to avoid spam? - 2nd repost)</p> <p>and it was a marvelous wonder. It also got me many cockpit rides in commercial flights - when I told the pilots I had the thing, they wanted to check how good it fared against their VOR and inertial systems (GPS was not certified for airline use for years after it was available to the general public). I also remember heated debates among pilots for and against the new technology. Those who tried it became in love, those who yet hadn't, said they would not trust the system over their traditional instruments, or a pair of eyeballs, a map, and a stopwatch.</p> <p>I still keep the unit, brings back many memories.</p> I remember that I brought the second GPS unit that was seen at my local airfield, a Garmin GPS 55 AVD, which looked like:

(Are URLs not allowed to avoid spam? – 2nd repost)

and it was a marvelous wonder. It also got me many cockpit rides in commercial flights – when I told the pilots I had the thing, they wanted to check how good it fared against their VOR and inertial systems (GPS was not certified for airline use for years after it was available to the general public). I also remember heated debates among pilots for and against the new technology. Those who tried it became in love, those who yet hadn’t, said they would not trust the system over their traditional instruments, or a pair of eyeballs, a map, and a stopwatch.

I still keep the unit, brings back many memories.

]]> By: Bokeem Woodbine http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76702 Bokeem Woodbine Sat, 09 Dec 2006 07:26:14 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76702 <p>Um, you don't "regale" a story. You regale someone <em>with</em> a story. Regale means entertain. You guys need a copy editor. You need one much less that Om, but really. I bet you could offshore the copy editing to India real cheap.</p> Um, you don’t “regale” a story. You regale someone with a story. Regale means entertain. You guys need a copy editor. You need one much less that Om, but really. I bet you could offshore the copy editing to India real cheap.

]]> By: Roy O' Connor http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76701 Roy O' Connor Sat, 09 Dec 2006 01:11:06 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76701 <p>I am developing a GPS device and am looking for low cost GPS chips. Katie mentions GPS chips for less than a dollar. Does anyone know which chips are these and where can i get them.</p> I am developing a GPS device and am looking for low cost GPS chips. Katie mentions GPS chips for less than a dollar. Does anyone know which chips are these and where can i get them.

]]> By: Aswath Weblog http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76700 Aswath Weblog Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:56:55 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76700 <p><strong>Cell Phones Could be a PLB…</strong></p> <p>While writing about GPS-based navigation enabled cell phones, Katie Fehrenbacher remarks that such technology could have saved James Kim. The area is so isolated, I understand there were no cell radio coverage in that area. Still, one could use cell…</p> Cell Phones Could be a PLB…

While writing about GPS-based navigation enabled cell phones, Katie Fehrenbacher remarks that such technology could have saved James Kim. The area is so isolated, I understand there were no cell radio coverage in that area. Still, one could use cell…

]]> By: Bob King Neverland III http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76699 Bob King Neverland III Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:42:22 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76699 <p>Lol, that looks like something the dad from Gremlins would have invented.</p> Lol, that looks like something the dad from Gremlins would have invented.

]]> By: Yuvamani http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76698 Yuvamani Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:10:38 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76698 <p>Phones which have unlimited data plans can use GPS integrated with google maps… The helio is an example of the same… Anyway the main use case for GPS is car and with a bunch of dedicated GPS units available for 200 bucks 10 bucks a month sounds excessive.</p> Phones which have unlimited data plans can use GPS integrated with google maps… The helio is an example of the same… Anyway the main use case for GPS is car and with a bunch of dedicated GPS units available for 200 bucks 10 bucks a month sounds excessive.

]]> By: Venkatesh http://gigaom.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76697 Venkatesh Fri, 08 Dec 2006 22:11:57 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/12/08/telenav-gps/#comment-76697 <p>If they can give that service for $10 per month, why not give it off for free ? Support it via local ads. Deliver ads about the discount in the next right turn or about discounts when the person is in a mall ? 10 ads per month and they are in black. Any thing more is bonus. More <a href="http://amanthan.blogspot.com/2006/11/subsidize-gps-with-ad-supported-devices.html" rel="nofollow">here</a></p> If they can give that service for $10 per month, why not give it off for free ? Support it via local ads. Deliver ads about the discount in the next right turn or about discounts when the person is in a mall ? 10 ads per month and they are in black. Any thing more is bonus. More here

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