Comments on: Yahoo VPs Exodus Continues

By: In Valley, Changing Of The Guard - GigaOM

In Valley, Changing Of The Guard - GigaOM — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:32:38 +0000

[...] Lu, Vish Makhijani are high-tailing out of dodge, continuing a Yahoo executive exodus that started nearly two years ago but went unnoticed. The only organization more dysfunctional than Yahoo – New York Mets. My two [...]

By: GigaOM Semel out, Yang in at Yahoo «

GigaOM Semel out, Yang in at Yahoo « — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:52:14 +0000

[...] is that a tactical admission that defeatist attitude had taken over the company, which has become the farm system for rest of the Valley. Is this big shake up enough to save Yahoo, which has seen some of its best talent leave the [...]

By: GigaOM » I want my MTV (Executive)

GigaOM » I want my MTV (Executive) — Tue, 01 May 2007 02:26:54 +0000

[...] who was Yahoo’s vice president of consumer web search, and just joined Accel Partners. Some describe Yahoo as Silicon Valley’s favorite farm team – for start-up [...]

By: SIRTONY

SIRTONY — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:03:48 +0000

I actually have a great suggestion or two for YAHOO…but they would have to have the Guts to contact me and actually set up a consultant meeting so I could put a deal together…then share with them the road they need to travel…Truth is I went into a company when it was making a few million and now it makes Hundreds of millions…and I would love to turn them into a Competitor…Creative ideas well executed is what they need..and few know what I know at a time like this…but who knows…maybe they will contact me…and things will change…and what seems like a deadend…could actually just be the end of one chapter…and now the next great chapter begins…boy could I help them or any company with their Brand Name that just needs someone with several Visions yet to be done…so that's my story…did you hear me YAHOO!!!!!!!!!! I'm here…but don't wait to long …because then I will have to do it on my own or with another Brand Name…I look forward to our meeting…:)

E mail me at my web site…

By: John

John — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:38:01 +0000

Looks like Yahoo! is getting rid of the clueless middle management. Process – I don’t think there is much process at Yahoo! from my time there. I compare the people Google has hired (including friends and relatives) to the acquaintances I know that Yahoo! hires, and it is like night and day. Too many people at Yahoo! with inflated titles relative to their experience and value; and the opposite at Google where people usually take a title cut and are usually overqualified for their position. I think with Google printing cash, Yahoo!’s best bet is to merge with eBay or be bought out by Microsoft.

By: Prashant

Prashant — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:33:37 +0000

is it the symptoms of Bozo Explosion. yahoo used to be my fave site in recent pst and with the acquistion of Flickr, del.ico.us they have proved that they hav fingreon pulse of consumer internet . they still need to workon the process but its too soon to write them off

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 03:21:12 +0000

But you know, bad management always start with layoffs. If they don’t see significant rise in income by end of Q4. The axe will be @ work.

By: Peter W.

Peter W. — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 02:24:31 +0000

Leverage baby, in 5 steps.

Relaunch GeoCities as both a MySpace/Facebook clone and feed traffic to it thru Yahoo Mail,Chat,Flickr,Upcoming and Delicious.
Reassign Flickr team to build YouTube clone, use Semel's media and studio relationships to populate it. Sell videos thru it too.
Change MyYahoo 360 into a Blogger clone with advanced "Digg like" ratings and put Zadowny in charge of splog detection.
Use all the idle datacenter machines to offer "Amazon like" corporate Simple Storage (S3) and Elastic Computing (E2) webservices.
Reject the reported one billion dollar FaceBook asking price and use it for a stock buyback instead.

Fixed.

Peter W.

By: tomo

tomo — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 01:39:23 +0000

Anonymous ex-Yahoo,

Why is this situation so typical of what were companies that could turn on a dime, were responsive to customer feedback and had a take the ball and run with it/better to ask forgiveness than permission mentality? without fail this always seems to happen. i understand as companies grow up more parameters need to be in place but what you describe is the exact situation of my last employer and the one before that.

couple that process paralization and bring in outside managers who don't know how to get anything done and you have a recipe for disaster. seriously, it doesn't take a stanford or harvard mba to figure this stuff out, it is common sense. i'm a firm believer that shit rolls downhill but has to start somewhere and that somewhere is usually at the top and clueless to boot.

By: Anonymous ex-Yahoo

Anonymous ex-Yahoo — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:32:34 +0000

The biggest public misconception of Yahoo is that it's a "young energetic company". The company has grown and mis-managed to a point where it's now full of beaucracy and inefficient processes that does more on hindering the development work than to track business processes. There are managers reporting to managers and directors reporting to directors. The transparency is lost in layers and layers of middle management and what's left is a handful of semi-clueless management making decisions based on fluffy facts. Want to make a change to the production system? A simple production change request must be manually filed into 2 separate tracking systems and signed by 3 to 4 different managers and engineers. If your production request requires adding a new machine to your project, good luck. In addition to the tickets you have already filed, you need to open another one to the hardware committee and schedule a meeting to justify your purchase. Meeting the committee is the easy part. Even if you have your hardware order approved, most of the data centers are at 100% capacity - full of untrackable obsolete idling machines. Departments are relunctant to take down their old machines in fear of losing their rack space for their future projects.

None of these inefficiencies will get any better with the poor hiring process, where the pool of talents are contaminated with patches of compromised hires.

With that said, I believe there are still good things happening inside Yahoo - Flickr, Delicious, and Upcoming are all great products. But it takes more than just a few niche products to turn the company around…

By: Steve M.

Steve M. — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 00:17:26 +0000

Simple: Launch a new PPC ad platform that allows advertisers to target and bid directly on peoples' traits and characteristics instead of indirectly on the words and phrases they type into little search boxes…and this time, with the kind of competition-blocking patent protection (app #11/250,908) they thought they had aquired with their purchase of Overture.

Take away media darling Google's paid search feed bowl and see what happens.

Prediction if they do so: Yahoo stock at $75/share…and Google's at less than $150/share…both w/in 30 months of the launch of Match Engine Marketing/paid match.

Long live Yahoo.

By: Steve Flinn

Steve Flinn — Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:33:45 +0000

Best hope for the stock is to get Barron’s to keep publishing uninformed hype pieces like they did a few months ago . . .

By: Brian McConnell

Brian McConnell — Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:37:26 +0000

Yahoo and Google are completely different companies. I never really viewed Yahoo as a search company so much as a content and services company. Google has yet to demonstrate that it can launch successful consumer services outside of its core search/ad business (the YouTube acquisition proves this).

Yahoo on the other hand has countless services, some mass market, some niche, and a loyal user base.

As long as they continue to focus on developing new services, acquiring emerging companies like Flickr, and re-launching their mainstay services like Mail, I think they'll do fine in the long run.

By: Ged

Ged — Sun, 12 Nov 2006 20:39:16 +0000

Willan is a real loss, the problem the company faces though is that Google is becoming the centre of an online advertising singularity and al the web 2.0 shenanigans like Yahoo! Answers isn’t making a sufficient difference.

By: PRoales

PRoales — Sun, 12 Nov 2006 20:38:48 +0000

You know what a $37B company with 10,000 employees should do when it starts struggling? They should start taking suggestions from blog comments…

By: Ashish

Ashish — Sun, 12 Nov 2006 19:23:46 +0000

Get rid of Terry Semel, and get someone young and energetic in there.