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	<title>Comments on: Boxbe: Get a Cut of Your Email Spam</title>
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		<title>By: Raj</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-748401</link>
		<dc:creator>Raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 03:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Tried this service and found a peculiar problem - "white hat blowback" similar to spam blowback.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Consider this: I'm on Amazon.com's newsletter. When my Yahoo inbox received an email that wasnt tagged by me as legit, Boxbe automatically responded with an "identify yourself!" - which of course went to an auto-responder, which then responded with "Sorry I cant respond, write to this address instead" which then Boxbe replied with "Identify yourself"... you get the picture...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thoughts guys??&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tried this service and found a peculiar problem - &#8220;white hat blowback&#8221; similar to spam blowback.</p>
<p>Consider this: I&#8217;m on Amazon.com&#8217;s newsletter. When my Yahoo inbox received an email that wasnt tagged by me as legit, Boxbe automatically responded with an &#8220;identify yourself!&#8221; - which of course went to an auto-responder, which then responded with &#8220;Sorry I cant respond, write to this address instead&#8221; which then Boxbe replied with &#8220;Identify yourself&#8221;&#8230; you get the picture&#8230;</p>
<p>Thoughts guys??</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-169120</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I've seen a lot of these types of services trying to get rich off the consumer who buys into what looks like a great service for them, but really serves the marketer...I don't think this service serves anyone except Boxbe&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen a lot of these types of services trying to get rich off the consumer who buys into what looks like a great service for them, but really serves the marketer&#8230;I don&#8217;t think this service serves anyone except Boxbe</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-159060</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Boxbe is a really bad idea.  I feel sorry for any investor.  Sounds like a bunch of kids working out of their garage.  Another wannabe get rich off the internet scheme.  Ho Hum.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boxbe is a really bad idea.  I feel sorry for any investor.  Sounds like a bunch of kids working out of their garage.  Another wannabe get rich off the internet scheme.  Ho Hum.</p>
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		<title>By: Newport Vanderhaden</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-71831</link>
		<dc:creator>Newport Vanderhaden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mine is...vanderhaden@boxbe.com&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine <a href="mailto:is...vanderhaden@boxbe.com">is&#8230;vanderhaden@boxbe.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fiz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-71830</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 02:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;this would make me actually consider manipulating my consumption.. if somebody is willing to pay me (even though a few cents is nothing to a corporation) to take a look at their offers, it would be a plus to them. In a sense that one would actually read the advertisement rather than delete it prematurely. Also, richie&#8230; those willing to pay for you to read what they are producing seem to me as if they should fall into a different category from spammers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;fiziks@boxbe.com&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this would make me actually consider manipulating my consumption.. if somebody is willing to pay me (even though a few cents is nothing to a corporation) to take a look at their offers, it would be a plus to them. In a sense that one would actually read the advertisement rather than delete it prematurely. Also, richie&#8230; those willing to pay for you to read what they are producing seem to me as if they should fall into a different category from spammers.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:fiziks@boxbe.com">fiziks@boxbe.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Richi Jennings</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-71829</link>
		<dc:creator>Richi Jennings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh no. Boxbe is effectively a spamhaus. Challenge/response is a really TERRIBLE idea. This will all end in tears.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Guys, there's no way to correctly "reply" to a spammer -- they forge the return address. However, that's exactly what Boxbe tries to do. Oops.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;See &lt;a href="http://richi.co.uk/blog/2006/12/boxbe-another-cr-spamhaus.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://richi.co.uk/blog/&lt;/a&gt; for more.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh no. Boxbe is effectively a spamhaus. Challenge/response is a really TERRIBLE idea. This will all end in tears.</p>
<p>Guys, there&#8217;s no way to correctly &#8220;reply&#8221; to a spammer &#8212; they forge the return address. However, that&#8217;s exactly what Boxbe tries to do. Oops.</p>
<p>See  (<a href="http://richi.co.uk/blog/2006/12/boxbe-another-cr-spamhaus.html" rel="nofollow">link</a>)  for more.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-71828</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have also just signed up for Boxbe.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here is my e-mail for all the spambots:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;jeff@boxbe.com&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have also just signed up for Boxbe.  </p>
<p>Here is my e-mail for all the spambots:</p>
<p><a href="mailto:jeff@boxbe.com">jeff@boxbe.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clicked</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-71827</link>
		<dc:creator>Clicked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 06:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Type for your life&#8230;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Awesome game - I got the 23 (57560) spot on medium and the 40 spot (15780) on impossible.&#160; But that's&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Type for your life&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Awesome game - I got the 23 (57560) spot on medium and the 40 spot (15780) on impossible.&nbsp; But that&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bigunk</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-71826</link>
		<dc:creator>bigunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 04:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Signed up as len@boxbe.com. Spammers&#8230;come and get me!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Signed up as <a href="mailto:len@boxbe.com">len@boxbe.com</a>. Spammers&#8230;come and get me!!</p>
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		<title>By: enemieslist.com: Spam News</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-71825</link>
		<dc:creator>enemieslist.com: Spam News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links Roundup&#8230;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Enhance Your Mail Server With ASSP (Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy) Report: Phishers Hooking Fewer (But Fatter) Victims Spam at epic levelsGood numbers breakdown. PandaLabs Detects Politically Oriented Spam Security Blog Log: Sailing a sea of spam US Politician&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Links Roundup&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Enhance Your Mail Server With ASSP (Anti-Spam SMTP Proxy) Report: Phishers Hooking Fewer (But Fatter) Victims Spam at epic levelsGood numbers breakdown. PandaLabs Detects Politically Oriented Spam Security Blog Log: Sailing a sea of spam US Politician&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gk</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-71824</link>
		<dc:creator>gk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;the thing is. if this thing catches on and everyone uses it, then advertisers will be forced to either pay to send spam or don't send at all.. isn't that what this service and its users are hoping for?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the thing is. if this thing catches on and everyone uses it, then advertisers will be forced to either pay to send spam or don&#8217;t send at all.. isn&#8217;t that what this service and its users are hoping for?</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-71823</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 18:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The trouble with throwaway email addresses is that you need to keep throwing them away.  It sounds like Boxbe would let you use the same address over and over.  Many marketers probably wouldn't email you if it meant paying a fee and would drop your name from their lists.
This would not be good news for boxbe's business model, of course.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble with throwaway email addresses is that you need to keep throwing them away.  It sounds like Boxbe would let you use the same address over and over.  Many marketers probably wouldn&#8217;t email you if it meant paying a fee and would drop your name from their lists.<br />
This would not be good news for boxbe&#8217;s business model, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: PanMan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-71822</link>
		<dc:creator>PanMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was shocked to see how cheap it was to hire people to solve CAPTCHA's, over the net. (not that I did, but I read about it!). I think it was around $50 for 40 hours. That's lot of CAPTCHA's, and I'm guessing spammers will rather do that, than pay (more)&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was shocked to see how cheap it was to hire people to solve CAPTCHA&#8217;s, over the net. (not that I did, but I read about it!). I think it was around $50 for 40 hours. That&#8217;s lot of CAPTCHA&#8217;s, and I&#8217;m guessing spammers will rather do that, than pay (more)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: milo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-71821</link>
		<dc:creator>milo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Boxbe looks good, signed up, we'll see if this service will improve the usability.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boxbe looks good, signed up, we&#8217;ll see if this service will improve the usability.</p>
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		<title>By: Name Witheld</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/11/09/boxbe-get-a-cut-of-your-email-spam/#comment-71820</link>
		<dc:creator>Name Witheld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 00:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This service looks kinda cool. So I signed up. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don't think there's much money for a single email recipient but paying me a dime to prove your offer is worth my attention seems simple, and smart.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, didn't AllAdvantage only work by an elaborate pyramid scheme?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This service looks kinda cool. So I signed up. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s much money for a single email recipient but paying me a dime to prove your offer is worth my attention seems simple, and smart.</p>
<p>Also, didn&#8217;t AllAdvantage only work by an elaborate pyramid scheme?</p>
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