Comments on: Adobe Wants to Come in from the Cold http://gigaom.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/ Tracking the Internet Evolution Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:45:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Saim Baig http://gigaom.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-839171 Saim Baig Wed, 09 Jan 2008 08:05:21 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-839171 <p>Thats nice to hear that adobe is very serious about Apollo.Adobe should charge for streaming videos which require flash servers.Adobe can really earn a lot from the video tools.</p> Thats nice to hear that adobe is very serious about Apollo.Adobe should charge for streaming videos which require flash servers.Adobe can really earn a lot from the video tools.

]]> By: tys http://gigaom.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71222 tys Fri, 15 Dec 2006 05:25:53 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71222 <p>Apollo is not a downloadable Flash application! What it is, is a framework that gives developers and companies the freedom to develop "Intranet" applications for the "Extranet" clients. EG. A client of a medical aid comany can have an Apollo based app that they distribute to their clients. This app can be a desktop app that shows them all their recent activity locally and can also update when it is online. </p> <p>That power alone is worth millions!! Once you are able to grasp the full potential of the product and what it can mean for you business you would not look any other way!</p> Apollo is not a downloadable Flash application! What it is, is a framework that gives developers and companies the freedom to develop “Intranet” applications for the “Extranet” clients. EG. A client of a medical aid comany can have an Apollo based app that they distribute to their clients. This app can be a desktop app that shows them all their recent activity locally and can also update when it is online.

That power alone is worth millions!! Once you are able to grasp the full potential of the product and what it can mean for you business you would not look any other way!

]]> By: kevin http://gigaom.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71221 kevin Sat, 04 Nov 2006 14:49:46 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71221 <p>The lax attitude that Adobe displayed in the months prior to and after the release of Final Cut Pro has proved to ba a considerable hurdle for Adobe to overcome (as far as video editing is concerned). Users of Premiere on the Mac have long been ambivalent towars Adobe and their seemingly lack of support and lack of innovation for the product. This gave Final Cut an opening. Macintosh users took to Final Cut like moths to a flame so much so that Adobe stoppoed offering Premiere on the Mac. Just goes to show what can happen when you don't listen to what your user base is telling you they need.</p> The lax attitude that Adobe displayed in the months prior to and after the release of Final Cut Pro has proved to ba a considerable hurdle for Adobe to overcome (as far as video editing is concerned). Users of Premiere on the Mac have long been ambivalent towars Adobe and their seemingly lack of support and lack of innovation for the product. This gave Final Cut an opening. Macintosh users took to Final Cut like moths to a flame so much so that Adobe stoppoed offering Premiere on the Mac. Just goes to show what can happen when you don’t listen to what your user base is telling you they need.

]]> By: Jensa http://gigaom.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71220 Jensa Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:24:56 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71220 <p>Speaking of Apple having the video tools - Anyone remember where Apple got Final Cut from? It was actually developed by Macromedia…</p> <p>Everything from marketing to packaging was finished but then Macromedia figured that they'd only do web stuff (this was long before Flash 6 and Flash Video) and sold the software to Apple who just months later launched it as the first version of Final Cut. Kinda fun to think about these days :-D</p> Speaking of Apple having the video tools - Anyone remember where Apple got Final Cut from? It was actually developed by Macromedia…

Everything from marketing to packaging was finished but then Macromedia figured that they’d only do web stuff (this was long before Flash 6 and Flash Video) and sold the software to Apple who just months later launched it as the first version of Final Cut. Kinda fun to think about these days :-D

]]> By: paket http://gigaom.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71219 paket Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:49:47 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71219 <p>This sounds a lot like Macromedia Central (http://www.adobe.com/products/central/), which Adobe now owns, of course.</p> This sounds a lot like Macromedia Central (http://www.adobe.com/products/central/), which Adobe now owns, of course.

]]> By: Hans http://gigaom.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71218 Hans Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:40:27 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71218 <p>Anonymous asks, "Do users really want downloadable flash applications?"</p> <p>You know, I have never heard a user specifically ask for 'downloadable flash applications'. Fortunately, this isn't the problem Apollo solves.</p> <p>On the other hand, many users will benefit from offline access to web content. For example, I'd love to be able to respond to gmail while on a plane.</p> <p>Many users will also appreciate webapps behaving more like installed apps. To upload photos to Flickr today, either I use a clunky web-based form or download their Uploadr tool. I'd rather launch an Apollo app to browse photos on my hard drive, decide which to upload for others to access, and have a seemless experience organizing and viewing photos whether online or off. Takes Flickr to a new level, where it can compete favorably with desktop apps for photo organization while still offering the photo sharing benefits of being online.</p> Anonymous asks, “Do users really want downloadable flash applications?”

You know, I have never heard a user specifically ask for ‘downloadable flash applications’. Fortunately, this isn’t the problem Apollo solves.

On the other hand, many users will benefit from offline access to web content. For example, I’d love to be able to respond to gmail while on a plane.

Many users will also appreciate webapps behaving more like installed apps. To upload photos to Flickr today, either I use a clunky web-based form or download their Uploadr tool. I’d rather launch an Apollo app to browse photos on my hard drive, decide which to upload for others to access, and have a seemless experience organizing and viewing photos whether online or off. Takes Flickr to a new level, where it can compete favorably with desktop apps for photo organization while still offering the photo sharing benefits of being online.

]]> By: anonymous http://gigaom.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71217 anonymous Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:55:05 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71217 <p>Beyond the wow factor, do users really want downloadable flash applications? As for developers, haven't we seen the free tools, open standards, bait and hook before? Adobe has an uphill battle against truly free and open source web 2.0 technologies.</p> Beyond the wow factor, do users really want downloadable flash applications? As for developers, haven’t we seen the free tools, open standards, bait and hook before? Adobe has an uphill battle against truly free and open source web 2.0 technologies.

]]> By: JD on EP http://gigaom.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71216 JD on EP Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:31:01 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71216 <p><strong>Bigger pies…</strong></p> <p>Bigger pies: Liz Gannes at GigaOM wonders about the Adobe business model, where the company doesn't make money from download-and-play video sites, has started a $100M venture fund for Apollo projects, has acquired specialized talent for the next gener…</p> Bigger pies…

Bigger pies: Liz Gannes at GigaOM wonders about the Adobe business model, where the company doesn’t make money from download-and-play video sites, has started a $100M venture fund for Apollo projects, has acquired specialized talent for the next gener…

]]> By: BumpBox http://gigaom.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71215 BumpBox Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:56:31 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71215 <p><strong>Adobe Will Fund Your Startup If It Uses Apollo…</strong></p> <p>Flash has had a relatively eventful history since it first hit the web back in the 90’s. From being totally abused and poorly implemented (remember Flash intros?) to finally finding a place as the net’s premier cross-platform media player, …</p> Adobe Will Fund Your Startup If It Uses Apollo…

Flash has had a relatively eventful history since it first hit the web back in the 90’s. From being totally abused and poorly implemented (remember Flash intros?) to finally finding a place as the net’s premier cross-platform media player, …

]]> By: Hans http://gigaom.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71214 Hans Mon, 30 Oct 2006 08:55:49 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71214 <p>We've started development on a couple apps we plan to port to Apollo as soon as Adobe provides us the APIs. There's a definite 'wow' factor moving from Ajax/Flash to Apollo in terms of what a user is able to accomplish. Definitely worth watching.</p> We’ve started development on a couple apps we plan to port to Apollo as soon as Adobe provides us the APIs. There’s a definite ‘wow’ factor moving from Ajax/Flash to Apollo in terms of what a user is able to accomplish. Definitely worth watching.

]]> By: Amit Agarwal http://gigaom.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71213 Amit Agarwal Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:47:16 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71213 <p>I think there are two ways that adobe could make money:</p> <p>One, Adobe plans to show contextual ads inside Adobe digital editions which is like a trimmed down version of Adobe reader. Second, Adobe could have big licensing deals with mobile companies for their Flash lite technology.</p> <p>Though I am not sure how Ovation will fit in Adobe's portfolio.</p> I think there are two ways that adobe could make money:

One, Adobe plans to show contextual ads inside Adobe digital editions which is like a trimmed down version of Adobe reader. Second, Adobe could have big licensing deals with mobile companies for their Flash lite technology.

Though I am not sure how Ovation will fit in Adobe’s portfolio.

]]> By: shawpy http://gigaom.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71212 shawpy Mon, 30 Oct 2006 07:02:56 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/29/adobe-wants-to-come-in-from-the-cold/#comment-71212 <p>Liz, </p> <p>I wonder if Adobe feel the pressure of open source initiatives like the Red5 server (http://osflash.org/red5) might also eat into their share of future revenues.</p> <p>If Red5 can be sustained as open source it will attract a lot more early developers (such as those who would normally launch services using the LAMP stack). Adobe need to give tools away to attract these developers, make it low cost for them to launch a service and then add value once the service is established.</p> <p>Restrictive server licences (read high cost) will not compete with reliable open source tools.</p> <p>Once Red5 has established its final releases, I would think we will see more start up scenarios coming from this area.</p> Liz,

I wonder if Adobe feel the pressure of open source initiatives like the Red5 server (http://osflash.org/red5) might also eat into their share of future revenues.

If Red5 can be sustained as open source it will attract a lot more early developers (such as those who would normally launch services using the LAMP stack). Adobe need to give tools away to attract these developers, make it low cost for them to launch a service and then add value once the service is established.

Restrictive server licences (read high cost) will not compete with reliable open source tools.

Once Red5 has established its final releases, I would think we will see more start up scenarios coming from this area.

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