Comments on: Whatever Happened to P2P? http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/ Tracking the Internet Evolution Sun, 07 Sep 2008 08:35:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Bo and Monica-This is How We Party | Music To Download On Mp3 Player http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-850586 Bo and Monica-This is How We Party | Music To Download On Mp3 Player Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:42:37 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-850586 <p>[...] Whatever Happened to P2P? - GigaOMHow come P2P didn [...]</p> [...] Whatever Happened to P2P? - GigaOMHow come P2P didn [...]

]]> By: Wurld Media http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70975 Wurld Media Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:48:56 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70975 <p>FORMER WORKERS CLAIM WURLD MEDIA OWES THEM MONEY Class Action Lawsuit http://www.dailygazette.net/Repository/getFiles.asp?Style=OliveXLib:ArticleToMailGifMSIE&Type=text/html&Path=SCH/2006/12/20&ID=Ar00602&Locale=english-skin-custom&ChunkNum=0</p> <p>Publication:Schenectady Daily Gazette; Date:Dec 20, 2006; Section:National/Regional; Page:6 </p> <p>FOUR FORMER WORKERS CLAIM WURLD MEDIA OWES THEM MONEY</p> FORMER WORKERS CLAIM WURLD MEDIA OWES THEM MONEY Class Action Lawsuit
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Publication:Schenectady Daily Gazette; Date:Dec 20, 2006; Section:National/Regional; Page:6

FOUR FORMER WORKERS CLAIM WURLD MEDIA OWES THEM MONEY

]]> By: Lemon Obrien http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70974 Lemon Obrien Fri, 27 Oct 2006 04:04:02 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70974 <p>If you want to know the future of p2p, you should check out Tamago (www.tamago.us )</p> If you want to know the future of p2p, you should check out Tamago (www.tamago.us )

]]> By: Louis Choquel http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70973 Louis Choquel Thu, 26 Oct 2006 12:20:08 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70973 <p>Hi Liz, please e-mail me too : louis dot choquel at zslide dot com</p> <p>Our P2P e-mail service for large attachments is pretty early stage but we have a big news coming-up within a week that I would love to share with you.</p> Hi Liz, please e-mail me too : louis dot choquel at zslide dot com

Our P2P e-mail service for large attachments is pretty early stage but we have a big news coming-up within a week that I would love to share with you.

]]> By: Newell Edmond http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70972 Newell Edmond Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:09:41 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70972 <p>Liz, please email me at newell at gridnetworks dot com or call our corporate office at 888-9-GO-GRID (x802). Bo is at Digital Hollywood and would love to speak with you. Your email you left is bouncing :(</p> Liz, please email me at newell at gridnetworks dot com or call our corporate office at 888-9-GO-GRID (x802). Bo is at Digital Hollywood and would love to speak with you. Your email you left is bouncing :(

]]> By: Liz Gannes http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70971 Liz Gannes Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:32:58 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70971 <p>To Ma, Matt, Newell, and others, </p> <p>We're happy to look elsewhere for good news about P2P business models. I am down at Digital Hollywood right now. Email me anytime (first name at gigaom dot com).</p> <p>Liz</p> To Ma, Matt, Newell, and others,

We’re happy to look elsewhere for good news about P2P business models. I am down at Digital Hollywood right now. Email me anytime (first name at gigaom dot com).

Liz

]]> By: Newell Edmond http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70970 Newell Edmond Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:52:02 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70970 <p>For the record, GridNetworks VP of Sales and Marketing IS attending Digital Hollywood in Santa Monica this week. Though we are not exhibiting or speaking, we are taking a lot of meetings down there.</p> <p>To be honest, many P2P companies, save for Verisign/Kontiki, are small and agile companies that probably don't need go to the conferences as much as bigger companies that don't have the nimbleness of the small companies like ours that you mention.</p> <p>So on behalf of the smaller P2P companies you mention - we are here and working hard and we - and from what I hear, our competitors - are all making a lot of deals right now.</p> For the record, GridNetworks VP of Sales and Marketing IS attending Digital Hollywood in Santa Monica this week. Though we are not exhibiting or speaking, we are taking a lot of meetings down there.

To be honest, many P2P companies, save for Verisign/Kontiki, are small and agile companies that probably don’t need go to the conferences as much as bigger companies that don’t have the nimbleness of the small companies like ours that you mention.

So on behalf of the smaller P2P companies you mention - we are here and working hard and we - and from what I hear, our competitors - are all making a lot of deals right now.

]]> By: Matt http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70969 Matt Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:38:34 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70969 <p>If you want sucessfull inovatave bussiness models you dont go to the DCIA P2P Summit to Find them .The DCIA serves as the primary lobby group for Sharman Networks the owners of Kazza and thier spyware/adware based bussiness model is 5 years old and has been efectivly dismanteled by the Grokster decision.Now Sharman Networks is just a Brand for the RIAA and MPAA to utilise to distribute content after they settles for 20 Million .</p> <p>Maybe you should take a good look at the work being done by Red Swoosh (not really a content service though) ,GridNetworks ,NFT ,WurldMedia and in the near future Mashboxx .It will be the most efficent and secure technology p2p technology that will suceed in this space and not the brand name .</p> If you want sucessfull inovatave bussiness models you dont go to the DCIA P2P Summit to Find them .The DCIA serves as the primary lobby group for Sharman Networks the owners of Kazza and thier spyware/adware based bussiness model is 5 years old and has been efectivly dismanteled by the Grokster decision.Now Sharman Networks is just a Brand for the RIAA and MPAA to utilise to distribute content after they settles for 20 Million .

Maybe you should take a good look at the work being done by Red Swoosh (not really a content service though) ,GridNetworks ,NFT ,WurldMedia and in the near future Mashboxx .It will be the most efficent and secure technology p2p technology that will suceed in this space and not the brand name .

]]> By: Ma http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70968 Ma Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:49:57 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70968 <p>Wurld Media is not a member of the DCIA and are busy tieing up even more deals to get more content on more devices in more markets for thier Peer Impact product . They also dont go to that many conferences unless one of thier people are asked to speak or attend . Greg Kerber the CEO of Wurld Media went to Washington last year to Speak to the Congression Comerce Committee about the implications of the Grokster decision so it does not seem that he needs a lobby group to talk to the politians on his behalf .</p> <p>http://commerce.senate.gov/archive.grokster072805.ram</p> <p>Mashboxx and its founder Wayne Russo doesnt need a lobby group either, Wayne talks to the RIAA folks directly and Wayne posted just yesterday on p2pnet.ca expalining what he has been up to and his relationship with the RIAA and its executive .</p> <p>http://p2pnet.ca/seedBlogs.php?action=display<em>post&post</em>id=jon<em>1161606511</em>0&show<em>author=0&show</em>date=1</p> <p>The DCIA is just a self serving group of old p2p comapnines going nowhere .</p> Wurld Media is not a member of the DCIA and are busy tieing up even more deals to get more content on more devices in more markets for thier Peer Impact product .
They also dont go to that many conferences unless one of thier people are asked to speak or attend .
Greg Kerber the CEO of Wurld Media went to Washington last year to Speak to the Congression Comerce Committee about the implications of the Grokster decision so it does not seem that he needs a lobby group to talk to the politians on his behalf .

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Mashboxx and its founder Wayne Russo doesnt need a lobby group either, Wayne talks to the RIAA folks directly and Wayne posted just yesterday on p2pnet.ca expalining what he has been up to and his relationship with the RIAA and its executive .

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The DCIA is just a self serving group of old p2p comapnines going nowhere .

]]> By: Phoneranger http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70967 Phoneranger Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:48:24 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70967 <p>P2P streaming has a future…if you believe in "The Venice Project". Stream sharing is advertsing-friendly because the content is perishable. Ads in streams can be customized for content, location, daypart, etc. If the content producers and copyright holders are protected, they promote the technology rather than fight it. At least that's our story and we're sticking with it.</p> P2P streaming has a future…if you believe in “The Venice Project”. Stream sharing is advertsing-friendly because the content is perishable. Ads in streams can be customized for content, location, daypart, etc. If the content producers and copyright holders are protected, they promote the technology rather than fight it. At least that’s our story and we’re sticking with it.

]]> By: Michael Buckbee http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70966 Michael Buckbee Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:22:43 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70966 <p>P2P is very much a "plumbing" technology, it's a particular way of distributing information that has it's own sets of tradeoffs. </p> <p>If you want to find what the business model for P2P is look at World of Warcraft, they distribute all of their updates with a custom P2P application.</p> P2P is very much a “plumbing” technology, it’s a particular way of distributing information that has it’s own sets of tradeoffs.

If you want to find what the business model for P2P is look at World of Warcraft, they distribute all of their updates with a custom P2P application.

]]> By: Karl http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70965 Karl Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:07:52 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70965 <p>Porn & piracy.</p> <p>Not usual fodder for investor speculation, but the former is using p2p effectively to some degree, and the latter doesn't really care if there's a business model or not…</p> Porn & piracy.

Not usual fodder for investor speculation, but the former is using p2p effectively to some degree, and the latter doesn’t really care if there’s a business model or not…

]]> By: Jay http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70964 Jay Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:25:14 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70964 <p>You need to look at how porn companies are using P2P, they seem to be on the for front</p> <p>Jay</p> You need to look at how porn companies are using P2P, they seem to be on the for front

Jay

]]> By: Julien Boyreau http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70963 Julien Boyreau Tue, 24 Oct 2006 12:12:37 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70963 <p>The good P2P business model is hardware device based, that is a business case for Nokia, Apple, Sony or Microsoft Windows.</p> <p>With P2P software, you deport much of the value to the users' devices thus : You augment the value of your products. You create network effects if your P2P apps have some kind of stickiness to your products.</p> <p>The third argument could be more interesting : in a bundle strategy where you sold high margin products with complementary services @ zero margin (ex: iTunes+iPod) the P2P model allows you to reduce the cost center of providing the services by swapping costy infrastructure. </p> <p>Peer-to-peer should thus be the flagship of device vendors. Unfortunately, in this "browser is everything" and "google centralised so cool" epoch, device guys don't seem to understand this.</p> The good P2P business model is hardware device based, that is a business case for Nokia, Apple, Sony or Microsoft Windows.

With P2P software, you deport much of the value to the users’ devices thus :
You augment the value of your products.
You create network effects if your P2P apps have some kind of stickiness to your products.

The third argument could be more interesting : in a bundle strategy where you sold high margin products with complementary services @ zero margin (ex: iTunes+iPod) the P2P model allows you to reduce the cost center of providing the services by swapping costy infrastructure.

Peer-to-peer should thus be the flagship of device vendors. Unfortunately, in this “browser is everything” and “google centralised so cool” epoch, device guys don’t seem to understand this.

]]> By: threz http://gigaom.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70962 threz Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:54:05 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/24/whatever-happened-to-p2p/#comment-70962 <p>Cheap bandwidth, online videos and itunes, thats what happened to P2P.</p> <p>Something like youtube wouldn't have been possible a few years ago unless it used P2P, now its possible to serve up millions of videos a day <em>and</em> make a profit.</p> Cheap bandwidth, online videos and itunes, thats what happened to P2P.

Something like youtube wouldn’t have been possible a few years ago unless it used P2P, now its possible to serve up millions of videos a day and make a profit.

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