Comments on: The Treadmill Difference http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/ Tracking the Internet Evolution Sat, 05 Jul 2008 04:14:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: shemales stories http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70806 shemales stories Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:33:52 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70806 <p>Superb! (I wrote something else and then I read below that I aint supposed ter. So I deleted it.)</p> Superb! (I wrote something else and then I read below that I aint supposed ter. So I deleted it.)

]]> By: Valentine http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70804 Valentine Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:09:20 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70804 <p>Has Rackspace falen off the treadmill then :)</p> Has Rackspace falen off the treadmill then :)

]]> By: Ken Yarmosh http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70802 Ken Yarmosh Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:17:31 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70802 <p>Tom, good thing I consider all those things. I've been doing this sort of work for close to eight years now (even while in school). It's not a science of course because it's still all so new (relative to other professions and industries). I also don't claim to have the buck stop with me when it comes to the subject. But I do consider myself as qualified as the next guy or gal - and that is based on the results of my work, my background/education, and the readership I have on my own site.</p> <p>Plus what you noted. As any consulting does, my work depends on clients and what they want. The web, especially today, requires more than cookie cutter solutions.</p> Tom, good thing I consider all those things. I’ve been doing this sort of work for close to eight years now (even while in school). It’s not a science of course because it’s still all so new (relative to other professions and industries). I also don’t claim to have the buck stop with me when it comes to the subject. But I do consider myself as qualified as the next guy or gal - and that is based on the results of my work, my background/education, and the readership I have on my own site.

Plus what you noted. As any consulting does, my work depends on clients and what they want. The web, especially today, requires more than cookie cutter solutions.

]]> By: tom http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70800 tom Tue, 24 Oct 2006 07:31:26 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70800 <p>Doug,</p> <p>Didn't mean to come off as so negative. Sorry for that, Ken.</p> <p>Doing something different may get you some attention. You are right about that. </p> <p>Attention isn't always good though. My point in commenting on his age wasn't to dismiss his merits but to bring light to the fact that consulting on web strategy is more than having a MSE degree from a top flight university. That is admirable. IMO, web strategy incorporates many facets of marketing. including but not limited to messaging, positioning, knowing who your audience is, adapting to change and a whole slew of other issues that businesses consider when going online. My point is that it would be rather difficult to get all of the knowledge that can't be taught in a classroom, being a few years out of grad school. To answer your question about who I think should be the PERFECT web strategy consultant…I think it all depends on who the client is and what they want. It is a broad term and obviously means different things to different people. </p> <p>Brody, you got me on that one :)</p> Doug,

Didn’t mean to come off as so negative. Sorry for that, Ken.

Doing something different may get you some attention. You are right about that.

Attention isn’t always good though. My point in commenting on his age wasn’t to dismiss his merits but to bring light to the fact that consulting on web strategy is more than having a MSE degree from a top flight university. That is admirable. IMO, web strategy incorporates many facets of marketing. including but not limited to messaging, positioning, knowing who your audience is, adapting to change and a whole slew of other issues that businesses consider when going online. My point is that it would be rather difficult to get all of the knowledge that can’t be taught in a classroom, being a few years out of grad school. To answer your question about who I think should be the PERFECT web strategy consultant…I think it all depends on who the client is and what they want. It is a broad term and obviously means different things to different people.

Brody, you got me on that one :)

]]> By: Brody http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70799 Brody Tue, 24 Oct 2006 01:39:32 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70799 <p>It seems as though someone who was so quick to point out "grammer" mistakes on the "interenet" would at least make sure he spelled correctly. Proper punctuation wouldn't hurt either, just sayin'.</p> It seems as though someone who was so quick to point out “grammer” mistakes on the “interenet” would at least make sure he spelled correctly. Proper punctuation wouldn’t hurt either, just sayin’.

]]> By: Doug http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70798 Doug Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:30:35 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70798 <p>Give me a break people! I guess everyone's a critic (and overtly negative). So according to Dave, Ken's too old and has no real grasp on the web. While Tom, calls him a baby at 25 years old. It would seem to me that the PERFECT age for a web strategy consultant is one who grew up with the web as it has progressed over the years. Tom, please tell me who SHOULD be a web strategy consultant if not someone with an M.S.E. in Telecommunications and Networking from on of the premier schools in the US, the University of Pennsylvania and years of real world experience.</p> <p>http://www.technosight.com/about/</p> <p>Dave, perhaps you should pick up a newspaper sometime. Writing articles with catchy and/or cheesy headlines has been part of journalism since it's inception. Some catch (i.e. the greatly overused "Long Tail") and some don't but why fault the guy for trying? If it catches on he's an overnight celebrity while if it doesn't he just has to put up with a few jeers from OM readers (not writers I might add).</p> <p>All defending aside… the guy’s main point is not a new one but profound nonetheless. DO/OFFER SOMETHING DIFFERNT TO GET PEOPLES ATTENTION THEN DELIVER. Anyway you slice it, that's a recipe for success!</p> Give me a break people! I guess everyone’s a critic (and overtly negative). So according to Dave, Ken’s too old and has no real grasp on the web. While Tom, calls him a baby at 25 years old. It would seem to me that the PERFECT age for a web strategy consultant is one who grew up with the web as it has progressed over the years. Tom, please tell me who SHOULD be a web strategy consultant if not someone with an M.S.E. in Telecommunications and Networking from on of the premier schools in the US, the University of Pennsylvania and years of real world experience.

http://www.technosight.com/about/

Dave, perhaps you should pick up a newspaper sometime. Writing articles with catchy and/or cheesy headlines has been part of journalism since it’s inception. Some catch (i.e. the greatly overused “Long Tail”) and some don’t but why fault the guy for trying? If it catches on he’s an overnight celebrity while if it doesn’t he just has to put up with a few jeers from OM readers (not writers I might add).

All defending aside… the guy’s main point is not a new one but profound nonetheless. DO/OFFER SOMETHING DIFFERNT TO GET PEOPLES ATTENTION THEN DELIVER. Anyway you slice it, that’s a recipe for success!

]]> By: dave http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70797 dave Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:03:46 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70797 <p>and most importantly, the concept of a new coin like "the treadmill difference" makes me think of only companies running in place, getting no closer to any goal of any kind and wasting energy on the way…random aside, i'm a media temple grid customer and do love it, really kicks ass (so far)…</p> and most importantly, the concept of a new coin like “the treadmill difference” makes me think of only companies running in place, getting no closer to any goal of any kind and wasting energy on the way…random aside, i’m a media temple grid customer and do love it, really kicks ass (so far)…

]]> By: tom http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70795 tom Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:37:16 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70795 <p>Ken, forgot to mention that the entire interenet is a shared resource. Your ISP oversells, your hosting provider oversells, your phone company oversells. This is nothing new.</p> Ken, forgot to mention that the entire interenet is a shared resource. Your ISP oversells, your hosting provider oversells, your phone company oversells. This is nothing new.

]]> By: tom http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70793 tom Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:31:37 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70793 <p>Dave, I guess I will stick with old farts or 30 somethings instead of 25 yo web strategy consultants. Ken was in diapers when we were using 2400 baud modems. Apparently they stopped teaching proper grammer in grade school too :)</p> Dave, I guess I will stick with old farts or 30 somethings instead of 25 yo web strategy consultants. Ken was in diapers when we were using 2400 baud modems. Apparently they stopped teaching proper grammer in grade school too :)

]]> By: Ken Yarmosh http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70791 Ken Yarmosh Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:56:19 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70791 <p>Haha…old fart difference. Doesn't apply for a 25-year old or all his friends who only got wind of them (OK Go) with their treadmill stunt…which was sort of the point.</p> <p>Media Temple really is doing something different here. And while I have heard of them in the past, I'm definitely much more interested in recommending them to clients with this offering. I'm not the only one who is excited about what they are doing. Just do a simple search of the blogosphere.</p> <p>I've been a DreamHost guy to this point - and still am. But Media Temple just seriously shook up the game - at the very least, they generated some nice press for themselves:</p> <p>http://www.technorati.com/chart/%22media%20temple%22?language=n&authority=n</p> Haha…old fart difference. Doesn’t apply for a 25-year old or all his friends who only got wind of them (OK Go) with their treadmill stunt…which was sort of the point.

Media Temple really is doing something different here. And while I have heard of them in the past, I’m definitely much more interested in recommending them to clients with this offering. I’m not the only one who is excited about what they are doing. Just do a simple search of the blogosphere.

I’ve been a DreamHost guy to this point - and still am. But Media Temple just seriously shook up the game - at the very least, they generated some nice press for themselves:

http://www.technorati.com/chart/%22media%20temple%22?language=n&authority=n

]]> By: dave http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70789 dave Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:54:07 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70789 <p>I have never read such a blatant article trying to push a catchphrase. Horrible in so many ways.</p> <p>OK Go has been around for 8 years. You just heard of them? How about the "Old fart difference" in that a "web strategy consultant" trys to look hip by writing about something he has no real grasp of and relates it to another business he apparently has no real grasp of.</p> <p>I'm simply astounded by the poor premise of this article. I've never left a comment on gigaom but feel the need to now.</p> I have never read such a blatant article trying to push a catchphrase. Horrible in so many ways.

OK Go has been around for 8 years. You just heard of them? How about the “Old fart difference” in that a “web strategy consultant” trys to look hip by writing about something he has no real grasp of and relates it to another business he apparently has no real grasp of.

I’m simply astounded by the poor premise of this article. I’ve never left a comment on gigaom but feel the need to now.

]]> By: alanp http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70787 alanp Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:46:52 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70787 <p>Has Rackspace fallen off the treadmill then :)</p> Has Rackspace fallen off the treadmill then :)

]]> By: SlashChick http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70786 SlashChick Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:43:05 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70786 <p>Uh… so how did an article about how to do things differently on the web end up as an ad for Media Temple? If this were really about how to do things differently, more examples should be cited. Right now it reads as a tacky ad for Media Temple's hosting service. Frankly, Om, you can do a lot better than paid advertisements in these "guest editorials."</p> Uh… so how did an article about how to do things differently on the web end up as an ad for Media Temple? If this were really about how to do things differently, more examples should be cited. Right now it reads as a tacky ad for Media Temple’s hosting service. Frankly, Om, you can do a lot better than paid advertisements in these “guest editorials.”

]]> By: Ross http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70770 Ross Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:34:22 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70770 <p>MediaTemple's offering looks pretty neat however they are still heavily overselling. If you want a reliable web host check out my list at http://www.thehostguru.com , no paid reviews :)</p> MediaTemple’s offering looks pretty neat however they are still heavily overselling. If you want a reliable web host check out my list at http://www.thehostguru.com , no paid reviews :)

]]> By: Joseph Wain http://gigaom.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70769 Joseph Wain Mon, 23 Oct 2006 03:57:12 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/10/22/the-treadmill-difference/#comment-70769 <p>Om -- I'm again offering to help edit and proofread GigaOm. I like to read your stuff (and posts by guest columnists) but it needs editing. Badly.</p> Om — I’m again offering to help edit and proofread GigaOm. I like to read your stuff (and posts by guest columnists) but it needs editing. Badly.

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