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	<title>Comments on: Storing Music Tags in the Qloud</title>
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		<title>By: AirOne</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Check out musicbrainz.org for the new open source meta-database for music.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out musicbrainz.org for the new open source meta-database for music.</p>
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		<title>By: alan patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alan patrick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I agree with the above comment&#8230;iTunes bought the best metadata going at the time - Gracenote. Pandora and Lastfm are using various user based choice systems already.  Can&#039;t see what added value this sort of service brings to the game &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A note on iTunes metadata - Gracenote was originally put together as an open source collaboration of enthusiasts as CDDB, and when sold the original contributors never saw a bean&#8230;so rebuilding CDDB as a Web 2.0 app would be so cool and one in the eye for those trying to commercialise others&#039; open source work&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the above comment&#8230;iTunes bought the best metadata going at the time &#8211; Gracenote. Pandora and Lastfm are using various user based choice systems already.  Can&#8217;t see what added value this sort of service brings to the game </p>
<p>A note on iTunes metadata &#8211; Gracenote was originally put together as an open source collaboration of enthusiasts as CDDB, and when sold the original contributors never saw a bean&#8230;so rebuilding CDDB as a Web 2.0 app would be so cool and one in the eye for those trying to commercialise others&#8217; open source work</p>
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		<title>By: Alastair</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alastair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 22:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;drew:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The little-known iTunes &quot;Grouping&quot; field is indistinguishable from a tag field. I use it for tags like &quot;Swearing&quot; or &quot;Live&quot;, which are then easily queried using (as you say) smart playlists.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I would say there is a &lt;em&gt;huge&lt;/em&gt; amount of interesting data stored in the iTunes meta data, even without user tagging. I think online tools/services could and should be mining this information more carefully.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>drew:</p>
<p>The little-known iTunes &#8220;Grouping&#8221; field is indistinguishable from a tag field. I use it for tags like &#8220;Swearing&#8221; or &#8220;Live&#8221;, which are then easily queried using (as you say) smart playlists.</p>
<p>But I would say there is a <em>huge</em> amount of interesting data stored in the iTunes meta data, even without user tagging. I think online tools/services could and should be mining this information more carefully.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Robertson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Robertson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;MP3tunes just released a beta of their Oboe Sync software which adds a big list of new features. Topping the list is album artwork which is now added for all your songs. Yes, iTunes now does this but the MP3tunes implementation is much higher success rate. iTunes only does an exact match of albums they sell. Oboe Sync does a fuzzy search of a much larger collection of artwork. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are also many new sync features so you can selectively sync up or down from your computers. This means you can select just a subset of your music to move from one location to another. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another nifty feature is scheduling a sync. Since a sync can take a long time depending on your net connection and library size you can now schedule a sync to happen at a later time say in the middle of the night. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The beta software is available from: mp3tunes.com/download&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MP3tunes just released a beta of their Oboe Sync software which adds a big list of new features. Topping the list is album artwork which is now added for all your songs. Yes, iTunes now does this but the MP3tunes implementation is much higher success rate. iTunes only does an exact match of albums they sell. Oboe Sync does a fuzzy search of a much larger collection of artwork. </p>
<p>There are also many new sync features so you can selectively sync up or down from your computers. This means you can select just a subset of your music to move from one location to another. </p>
<p>Another nifty feature is scheduling a sync. Since a sync can take a long time depending on your net connection and library size you can now schedule a sync to happen at a later time say in the middle of the night. </p>
<p>The beta software is available from: mp3tunes.com/download</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Messina</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/10/10/storing-music-tags-in-the-qloud/#comment-125765</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Messina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 03:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Wow -- Streampad has great potential&#8230; and I &lt;em&gt;love&lt;/em&gt; the integration w/ the Archive!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While we&#039;re on this topic, I have to give props to a project I worked on called &lt;a href=&quot;http://soundflavor.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SoundFlavor&lt;/a&gt;&#8230; as in recommending music, it actually works on music that you &lt;a href=&quot;http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/10/06/soundflavor-launches-a-new-way-to-discover-the-music-you-already-own/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;already&lt;/em&gt; own&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s currently for iTunes on the PC -- but I&#039;m anxiously awaiting the Mac version to come out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for Qloud, I&#039;ll give it a shot, but I really think something automated is a better solution than manually tagging my 20K tracks with metadata that iTunes itself can&#039;t make use of.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8212; Streampad has great potential&#8230; and I <em>love</em> the integration w/ the Archive!</p>
<p>While we&#8217;re on this topic, I have to give props to a project I worked on called <a href="http://soundflavor.com" rel="nofollow">SoundFlavor</a>&#8230; as in recommending music, it actually works on music that you <a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2006/10/06/soundflavor-launches-a-new-way-to-discover-the-music-you-already-own/" rel="nofollow"><em>already</em> own</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s currently for iTunes on the PC &#8212; but I&#8217;m anxiously awaiting the Mac version to come out.</p>
<p>As for Qloud, I&#8217;ll give it a shot, but I really think something automated is a better solution than manually tagging my 20K tracks with metadata that iTunes itself can&#8217;t make use of.</p>
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		<title>By: drew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[drew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 02:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;You have obviously never used iTunes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Since iTunes doesn’t have tags itself, creating playlists means manually dragging songs together or sorting by name or genre. I’m not an avid tagger myself, but I do see the benefit of using tags to create mixes&#8230;&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The &quot;Smart Playlists&quot; in iTunes can do much, much more than sort by genre or name.  If you want to tag, you can put whatever you want (up to several paragraphs) in the &quot;Comments&quot; section of a songs info, and then use the Smart Playlist to search for a single word within that section, or a 2 words within that section, or a word within that section but only if it&#039;s in song added more than a day ago with a bpm over 120, or pretty much anything you want.  Before you start saying what you can and can&#039;t do with software, first check to make sure you can do it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Though true, there is no built in web-interface to see what everyone else is tagging their songs&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have obviously never used iTunes.</p>
<p>&#8220;Since iTunes doesn’t have tags itself, creating playlists means manually dragging songs together or sorting by name or genre. I’m not an avid tagger myself, but I do see the benefit of using tags to create mixes&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8220;Smart Playlists&#8221; in iTunes can do much, much more than sort by genre or name.  If you want to tag, you can put whatever you want (up to several paragraphs) in the &#8220;Comments&#8221; section of a songs info, and then use the Smart Playlist to search for a single word within that section, or a 2 words within that section, or a word within that section but only if it&#8217;s in song added more than a day ago with a bpm over 120, or pretty much anything you want.  Before you start saying what you can and can&#8217;t do with software, first check to make sure you can do it.</p>
<p>Though true, there is no built in web-interface to see what everyone else is tagging their songs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 23:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Qloud looks nice but it definately has its work cut out for it. Last.fm has a huge lead and nothing in Qloud makes me want to switch. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;One startup that I have been keeping my eye on is Streampad (http://www.streampad.com). You are completely right - the music sector is very crowded and many of these new recommendation services are not distinguishing themselves from one another. Streampad seems to be taking a different approach. They are tying together your own music library with new music found on the web through mp3 blogs. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The future, and present of music tech is looking very exciting!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Qloud looks nice but it definately has its work cut out for it. Last.fm has a huge lead and nothing in Qloud makes me want to switch. </p>
<p>One startup that I have been keeping my eye on is Streampad (<a href="http://www.streampad.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.streampad.com</a>). You are completely right &#8211; the music sector is very crowded and many of these new recommendation services are not distinguishing themselves from one another. Streampad seems to be taking a different approach. They are tying together your own music library with new music found on the web through mp3 blogs. </p>
<p>The future, and present of music tech is looking very exciting!</p>
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