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	<title>Comments on: Rebtel, Jajah, and CallBack 2.0</title>
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		<title>By: Sean Xie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-972019</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Xie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Much information here are out of date.  I tried Rebtel and am happy about the sound quality and service.  Jaxtr is also very interesting and offers cheaper rate.  I will give it a try.  Other services, such as Jajah and vopium are choices that may be better for other users.  Overall, these services all have their pros and cons.  Doing research can certainly be the way to find a plan that fits you the best.  Thanks to this forum that has introduction to these companies, as there was no good search option to find them on the web.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much information here are out of date.  I tried Rebtel and am happy about the sound quality and service.  Jaxtr is also very interesting and offers cheaper rate.  I will give it a try.  Other services, such as Jajah and vopium are choices that may be better for other users.  Overall, these services all have their pros and cons.  Doing research can certainly be the way to find a plan that fits you the best.  Thanks to this forum that has introduction to these companies, as there was no good search option to find them on the web.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-940765</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The original post says we should use phone cards. Phone cards are rip offs. They tell you you have 40 minutes for a
5 dollar card and you end up with 21. If you get disconnected, then you loose like $2.00. It&#039;s about time these scam cards are played out. Call customer service, it&#039;s someone in India. When you figure them out, they come back with a different name and pictures. I know this is true because I have seen 4 or 5 different $5 dollar cards to Africa with the same contact number.  I don&#039;t see any issue with Rebtel, but now that I know Jaxtr is 5 cents cheaper, it&#039;s bye bye Rebtel.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original post says we should use phone cards. Phone cards are rip offs. They tell you you have 40 minutes for a
5 dollar card and you end up with 21. If you get disconnected, then you loose like $2.00. It&#8217;s about time these scam cards are played out. Call customer service, it&#8217;s someone in India. When you figure them out, they come back with a different name and pictures. I know this is true because I have seen 4 or 5 different $5 dollar cards to Africa with the same contact number.  I don&#8217;t see any issue with Rebtel, but now that I know Jaxtr is 5 cents cheaper, it&#8217;s bye bye Rebtel.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: tad</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-932683</link>
		<dc:creator>tad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;those blind critics against Rebtel are really unfair.The only problem with Rebtel is they are resting on their laurel and other VOIP companies are taking over where they stopped.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>those blind critics against Rebtel are really unfair.The only problem with Rebtel is they are resting on their laurel and other VOIP companies are taking over where they stopped.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-928642</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like Jajah&#039;s iPod Application but I am using Vopium on my N95 and I am quite satisfied due to its premium voice quality. And the best thing in it is Vopium Sync application which creates an automatic backup of mobile data. Now I don&#039;t need to worry about my mobile data. I heard about Rebtel that they are offering 10 mins on signup, I want to add more that Vopium is offering Free 30 Minutes for international calls with 100 SMS as well. So guys don&#039;t miss the Free Minutes :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Jajah&#8217;s iPod Application but I am using Vopium on my N95 and I am quite satisfied due to its premium voice quality. And the best thing in it is Vopium Sync application which creates an automatic backup of mobile data. Now I don&#8217;t need to worry about my mobile data. I heard about Rebtel that they are offering 10 mins on signup, I want to add more that Vopium is offering Free 30 Minutes for international calls with 100 SMS as well. So guys don&#8217;t miss the Free Minutes :)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jaxtr Launches Free Calling Service. Why?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-918271</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaxtr Launches Free Calling Service. Why?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 05:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Rip Van Winkle who just woke up. If my memory serves me right, this is just another variation on Rebtel&#8217;s initial model, one they launched with back in 2006. After realizing that they weren&#8217;t going anywhere, Rebtel re-focused and now (supposedly) [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rip Van Winkle who just woke up. If my memory serves me right, this is just another variation on Rebtel&#8217;s initial model, one they launched with back in 2006. After realizing that they weren&#8217;t going anywhere, Rebtel re-focused and now (supposedly) [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rebtel&#8217;s Goes Easy, Thinks White Label - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-883373</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebtel&#8217;s Goes Easy, Thinks White Label - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] is one of the companies that I ignored for a while, mostly because at the time of their launch in May 2006, I found the user experience challenging. The company that raised over $20 million for Benchmark [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is one of the companies that I ignored for a while, mostly because at the time of their launch in May 2006, I found the user experience challenging. The company that raised over $20 million for Benchmark [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: A Mobile VoIP Forecast &#38; What&#8217;s Up With Jajah, Raketu &#38; mig33 &#171; GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-697144</link>
		<dc:creator>A Mobile VoIP Forecast &#38; What&#8217;s Up With Jajah, Raketu &#38; mig33 &#171; GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 06:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Rebtel, Jajah and Callback 2.0 [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: GigaOM Reb Me for Facebook &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-451160</link>
		<dc:creator>GigaOM Reb Me for Facebook &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] the archives: Rebtel, Jajah and Callback 2.0     Share This  &#124; Sphere &#124;  Print Posts &#124; Topic: Shorts [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the archives: Rebtel, Jajah and Callback 2.0     Share This  | Sphere |  Print Posts | Topic: Shorts [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: baxidecat</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-354958</link>
		<dc:creator>baxidecat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Try Manifone! They leave it up to you to decide what&#039;s best for you. Combine their voip plan with any other voip provider, plus your landline. They&#039;ll give you a set of local access numbers to assign to your friends&#039; numbers. It&#039;s not for the average user though. It&#039;s for those who call quite a lot of international destinations using their mobiles.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try Manifone! They leave it up to you to decide what&#8217;s best for you. Combine their voip plan with any other voip provider, plus your landline. They&#8217;ll give you a set of local access numbers to assign to your friends&#8217; numbers. It&#8217;s not for the average user though. It&#8217;s for those who call quite a lot of international destinations using their mobiles.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: manjur</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65859</link>
		<dc:creator>manjur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;fonemine is greatest of alllll.......try it out.....it free friend...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fonemine is greatest of alllll&#8230;&#8230;.try it out&#8230;..it free friend&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rebtel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65858</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebtel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;guys,
I have recently contacted by phone and email by REBTEL.
They cry that their service is free.
Actually it is a 1 dollar weekly subscription, then the price of calling a  local , then the price of calling a second local number(by your frind at the other end).
if is really free who is paying?
the client is paying always...and you are the client for rebtel.
be careful.
:)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guys,
I have recently contacted by phone and email by REBTEL.
They cry that their service is free.
Actually it is a 1 dollar weekly subscription, then the price of calling a  local , then the price of calling a second local number(by your frind at the other end).
if is really free who is paying?
the client is paying always&#8230;and you are the client for rebtel.
be careful.
:)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: will</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65857</link>
		<dc:creator>will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;just when you thought it had all gone quiet, we&#039;ve re-opened the minute stealers debate and moved it on!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;we&#039;ve published an analysis of how dramatically you can turn the tables on your operator. the full blog is at http://forum.rebtel.com/wordpress/2007/03/20/the-great-minute-stealers-debate-rebtel-comes-clean/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;what&#039;s especially interesting is to compare tariffs from ten years ago and look how little things have moved on in mobile compared to practically any other.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;please let us know your thoughts at http://www.rebtel.com&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just when you thought it had all gone quiet, we&#8217;ve re-opened the minute stealers debate and moved it on!</p>

<p>we&#8217;ve published an analysis of how dramatically you can turn the tables on your operator. the full blog is at <a href="http://forum.rebtel.com/wordpress/2007/03/20/the-great-minute-stealers-debate-rebtel-comes-clean/" rel="nofollow">http://forum.rebtel.com/wordpress/2007/03/20/the-great-minute-stealers-debate-rebtel-comes-clean/</a></p>

<p>what&#8217;s especially interesting is to compare tariffs from ten years ago and look how little things have moved on in mobile compared to practically any other.</p>

<p>please let us know your thoughts at <a href="http://www.rebtel.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.rebtel.com</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: gustav leo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65856</link>
		<dc:creator>gustav leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You guys should try our fonemine. jajah and rebtel don&#039;t stand a chance. fonemine has 30 countries completely free of charge. You get to hear an ad for close to 15 seconds and then you can talk for 15 mins for free completely.
You can dial using web, WAP or sms. You can signup using all three methods too.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys should try our fonemine. jajah and rebtel don&#8217;t stand a chance. fonemine has 30 countries completely free of charge. You get to hear an ad for close to 15 seconds and then you can talk for 15 mins for free completely.
You can dial using web, WAP or sms. You can signup using all three methods too.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Markus Goebel's Tech News Comments</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65855</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus Goebel's Tech News Comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Why does nobody admit that his company is a minut&#8230;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I realized that many of these companies are not so happy with the term &quot;minute stealers&quot;. This was quite surprising to me when I researched for an article in a German magazine. I have outlined their argumentation in a blog post&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Why does nobody admit that his company is a minut&#8230;</strong></p>

<p>I realized that many of these companies are not so happy with the term &#8220;minute stealers&#8221;. This was quite surprising to me when I researched for an article in a German magazine. I have outlined their argumentation in a blog post&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: trulover</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65854</link>
		<dc:creator>trulover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To add to the discussion, I have been using Jajah and a Rebtel Clone for a while until I came accross (( truphone )). I already had a WiFi / GSM phone as I liked the look and feel of the Nokia E60. Now what comes next is just short    of stunning. -- I always disliked Skype service for the same reason James mentioned above.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have been using VoIP on my Nokia E60 for the last 75 days with the (( truphone )) client installed. I recently added up my bills and came to the following conclusing. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have made 65 hours of mobile VoIP calls using the (( truphone )) client to many foreign locations (mobile and landline). My average per minute charge with all the free stuff they are giving away (FREE are most global landline calls) was 4.7 pence. WOW!!!! I used to be at 25 pence with my mobile network operator (due to the international and roaming stuff)! What a great saving…(I calculated my mobile savings will come to $6000 per year without the landline savings (have not even done the numbers)). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This stuff realy works once you manage to install it (can be still tricky but the team at truphone is first class and helped me out). &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(( truphone ))on mobile when in WiFi range is just the best thing ever happening to me!!! Gentlemen forget landlines, get yourself a WiFi / GSM mobile like the Nokia E60 and your next family holiday can be paid from the savings on your mobile and landline bill. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;this kills services like Jajah, Rebtel, Clones of any kind, Skype, gizmo, etc&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add to the discussion, I have been using Jajah and a Rebtel Clone for a while until I came accross (( truphone )). I already had a WiFi / GSM phone as I liked the look and feel of the Nokia E60. Now what comes next is just short    of stunning. &#8212; I always disliked Skype service for the same reason James mentioned above.</p>

<p>I have been using VoIP on my Nokia E60 for the last 75 days with the (( truphone )) client installed. I recently added up my bills and came to the following conclusing. </p>

<p>I have made 65 hours of mobile VoIP calls using the (( truphone )) client to many foreign locations (mobile and landline). My average per minute charge with all the free stuff they are giving away (FREE are most global landline calls) was 4.7 pence. WOW!!!! I used to be at 25 pence with my mobile network operator (due to the international and roaming stuff)! What a great saving…(I calculated my mobile savings will come to $6000 per year without the landline savings (have not even done the numbers)). </p>

<p>This stuff realy works once you manage to install it (can be still tricky but the team at truphone is first class and helped me out). </p>

<p>(( truphone ))on mobile when in WiFi range is just the best thing ever happening to me!!! Gentlemen forget landlines, get yourself a WiFi / GSM mobile like the Nokia E60 and your next family holiday can be paid from the savings on your mobile and landline bill. </p>

<p>this kills services like Jajah, Rebtel, Clones of any kind, Skype, gizmo, etc&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alternative Energy Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65853</link>
		<dc:creator>Alternative Energy Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m a user of both Jajah &amp; Rebtel in my office. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I didn&#039;t previously use Skype as I dislike using computer headsets (I much prefer my more expensive and much higher quality Plantronics telephone headset) even if I have to pay for the call (e.g. calling the U.S. is 2 pence per minute with an access number). I briefly tried Project Gizmo but disliked it for the same reasons as Skype.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My comments on Jajah and Rebtel.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jajah is great for international calls to landlines (it&#039;s expensive for calling international mobiles). Yes, you can get some great rates using calling cards/ access numbers (which I used previously) but Jajah is often 30%-70% cheaper and it remembers all my numbers making it very convenient. Open the website, 2 clicks and my phone is ringing with my contact on the other end. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rebtel to me meets a niche need. That is calling international mobile numbers from my mobile (or a landline). If I called directly using my mobile it would cost 30 pence a minute. The Rebtel service at a dollar a week makes it very economical to call international mobiles if you have inclusive minutes on your mobile calling plan (to call the local access number). However Rebtel&#039;s appeal is limited for the following reasons:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1)only relevant to a niche market (people who spend over a dollar a week calling international mobiles) AND who have inclusive minutes in their mobile plan&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2)it&#039;s complicated. you call your contact&#039;s access number, they hang up and then call another access number&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3)it has technical problems. the service worked great for a few weeks, however I&#039;ve been unable to get it to work for the last few weeks despite repeated emails to Rebtel&#039;s technical support.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So while Rebtel is (or rather was) saving me (as part of a niche market) some money, the convenience of Jajah makes me believe it has much wider appeal.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;James
Alternative Energy Blog&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a user of both Jajah &amp; Rebtel in my office. </p>

<p>I didn&#8217;t previously use Skype as I dislike using computer headsets (I much prefer my more expensive and much higher quality Plantronics telephone headset) even if I have to pay for the call (e.g. calling the U.S. is 2 pence per minute with an access number). I briefly tried Project Gizmo but disliked it for the same reasons as Skype.</p>

<p>My comments on Jajah and Rebtel.</p>

<p>Jajah is great for international calls to landlines (it&#8217;s expensive for calling international mobiles). Yes, you can get some great rates using calling cards/ access numbers (which I used previously) but Jajah is often 30%-70% cheaper and it remembers all my numbers making it very convenient. Open the website, 2 clicks and my phone is ringing with my contact on the other end. </p>

<p>Rebtel to me meets a niche need. That is calling international mobile numbers from my mobile (or a landline). If I called directly using my mobile it would cost 30 pence a minute. The Rebtel service at a dollar a week makes it very economical to call international mobiles if you have inclusive minutes on your mobile calling plan (to call the local access number). However Rebtel&#8217;s appeal is limited for the following reasons:</p>

<p>1)only relevant to a niche market (people who spend over a dollar a week calling international mobiles) AND who have inclusive minutes in their mobile plan</p>

<p>2)it&#8217;s complicated. you call your contact&#8217;s access number, they hang up and then call another access number</p>

<p>3)it has technical problems. the service worked great for a few weeks, however I&#8217;ve been unable to get it to work for the last few weeks despite repeated emails to Rebtel&#8217;s technical support.</p>

<p>So while Rebtel is (or rather was) saving me (as part of a niche market) some money, the convenience of Jajah makes me believe it has much wider appeal.</p>

<p>James
Alternative Energy Blog</p>]]></content:encoded>
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