Comments on: Rebtel, Jajah, and CallBack 2.0 http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/ The Business of Technology Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:21:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Rebtel’s Goes Easy, Thinks White Label - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-883373 Rebtel’s Goes Easy, Thinks White Label - GigaOM Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:12:57 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-883373 [...] is one of the companies that I ignored for a while, mostly because at the time of their launch in May 2006, I found the user experience challenging. The company that raised over $20 million for Benchmark [...] [...] is one of the companies that I ignored for a while, mostly because at the time of their launch in May 2006, I found the user experience challenging. The company that raised over $20 million for Benchmark [...]

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]]> By: baxidecat http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-354958 baxidecat Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:29:56 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-354958 <p>Try Manifone! They leave it up to you to decide what's best for you. Combine their voip plan with any other voip provider, plus your landline. They'll give you a set of local access numbers to assign to your friends' numbers. It's not for the average user though. It's for those who call quite a lot of international destinations using their mobiles.</p> Try Manifone! They leave it up to you to decide what’s best for you. Combine their voip plan with any other voip provider, plus your landline. They’ll give you a set of local access numbers to assign to your friends’ numbers. It’s not for the average user though. It’s for those who call quite a lot of international destinations using their mobiles.

]]> By: manjur http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65859 manjur Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:53:05 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65859 <p>fonemine is greatest of alllll.......try it out.....it free friend...</p> fonemine is greatest of alllll…….try it out…..it free friend…

]]> By: Rebtel http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65858 Rebtel Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:54:00 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65858 <p>guys, I have recently contacted by phone and email by REBTEL. They cry that their service is free. Actually it is a 1 dollar weekly subscription, then the price of calling a local , then the price of calling a second local number(by your frind at the other end). if is really free who is paying? the client is paying always...and you are the client for rebtel. be careful. :)</p> guys,
I have recently contacted by phone and email by REBTEL.
They cry that their service is free.
Actually it is a 1 dollar weekly subscription, then the price of calling a local , then the price of calling a second local number(by your frind at the other end).
if is really free who is paying?
the client is paying always…and you are the client for rebtel.
be careful.
:)

]]> By: will http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65857 will Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:28:53 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65857 <p>just when you thought it had all gone quiet, we've re-opened the minute stealers debate and moved it on!</p> <p>we've published an analysis of how dramatically you can turn the tables on your operator. the full blog is at http://forum.rebtel.com/wordpress/2007/03/20/the-great-minute-stealers-debate-rebtel-comes-clean/</p> <p>what's especially interesting is to compare tariffs from ten years ago and look how little things have moved on in mobile compared to practically any other.</p> <p>please let us know your thoughts at http://www.rebtel.com</p> just when you thought it had all gone quiet, we’ve re-opened the minute stealers debate and moved it on!

we’ve published an analysis of how dramatically you can turn the tables on your operator. the full blog is at (link)

what’s especially interesting is to compare tariffs from ten years ago and look how little things have moved on in mobile compared to practically any other.

please let us know your thoughts at (link)

]]> By: gustav leo http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65856 gustav leo Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:50:35 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65856 <p>You guys should try our fonemine. jajah and rebtel don't stand a chance. fonemine has 30 countries completely free of charge. You get to hear an ad for close to 15 seconds and then you can talk for 15 mins for free completely. You can dial using web, WAP or sms. You can signup using all three methods too.</p> You guys should try our fonemine. jajah and rebtel don’t stand a chance. fonemine has 30 countries completely free of charge. You get to hear an ad for close to 15 seconds and then you can talk for 15 mins for free completely.
You can dial using web, WAP or sms. You can signup using all three methods too.

]]> By: Markus Goebel's Tech News Comments http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65855 Markus Goebel's Tech News Comments Wed, 21 Feb 2007 10:03:12 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65855 <p><strong>Why does nobody admit that his company is a „minut…</strong></p> <p>I realized that many of these companies are not so happy with the term "minute stealers". This was quite surprising to me when I researched for an article in a German magazine. I have outlined their argumentation in a blog post…</p> Why does nobody admit that his company is a „minut…

I realized that many of these companies are not so happy with the term “minute stealers”. This was quite surprising to me when I researched for an article in a German magazine. I have outlined their argumentation in a blog post…

]]> By: trulover http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65854 trulover Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:05:40 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65854 <p>To add to the discussion, I have been using Jajah and a Rebtel Clone for a while until I came accross (( truphone )). I already had a WiFi / GSM phone as I liked the look and feel of the Nokia E60. Now what comes next is just short of stunning. -- I always disliked Skype service for the same reason James mentioned above.</p> <p>I have been using VoIP on my Nokia E60 for the last 75 days with the (( truphone )) client installed. I recently added up my bills and came to the following conclusing. </p> <p>I have made 65 hours of mobile VoIP calls using the (( truphone )) client to many foreign locations (mobile and landline). My average per minute charge with all the free stuff they are giving away (FREE are most global landline calls) was 4.7 pence. WOW!!!! I used to be at 25 pence with my mobile network operator (due to the international and roaming stuff)! What a great saving…(I calculated my mobile savings will come to $6000 per year without the landline savings (have not even done the numbers)). </p> <p>This stuff realy works once you manage to install it (can be still tricky but the team at truphone is first class and helped me out). </p> <p>(( truphone ))on mobile when in WiFi range is just the best thing ever happening to me!!! Gentlemen forget landlines, get yourself a WiFi / GSM mobile like the Nokia E60 and your next family holiday can be paid from the savings on your mobile and landline bill. </p> <p>this kills services like Jajah, Rebtel, Clones of any kind, Skype, gizmo, etc…</p> To add to the discussion, I have been using Jajah and a Rebtel Clone for a while until I came accross (( truphone )). I already had a WiFi / GSM phone as I liked the look and feel of the Nokia E60. Now what comes next is just short of stunning. — I always disliked Skype service for the same reason James mentioned above.

I have been using VoIP on my Nokia E60 for the last 75 days with the (( truphone )) client installed. I recently added up my bills and came to the following conclusing.

I have made 65 hours of mobile VoIP calls using the (( truphone )) client to many foreign locations (mobile and landline). My average per minute charge with all the free stuff they are giving away (FREE are most global landline calls) was 4.7 pence. WOW!!!! I used to be at 25 pence with my mobile network operator (due to the international and roaming stuff)! What a great saving…(I calculated my mobile savings will come to $6000 per year without the landline savings (have not even done the numbers)).

This stuff realy works once you manage to install it (can be still tricky but the team at truphone is first class and helped me out).

(( truphone ))on mobile when in WiFi range is just the best thing ever happening to me!!! Gentlemen forget landlines, get yourself a WiFi / GSM mobile like the Nokia E60 and your next family holiday can be paid from the savings on your mobile and landline bill.

this kills services like Jajah, Rebtel, Clones of any kind, Skype, gizmo, etc…

]]> By: Alternative Energy Blog http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65853 Alternative Energy Blog Fri, 27 Oct 2006 19:26:14 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65853 <p>I'm a user of both Jajah & Rebtel in my office. </p> <p>I didn't previously use Skype as I dislike using computer headsets (I much prefer my more expensive and much higher quality Plantronics telephone headset) even if I have to pay for the call (e.g. calling the U.S. is 2 pence per minute with an access number). I briefly tried Project Gizmo but disliked it for the same reasons as Skype.</p> <p>My comments on Jajah and Rebtel.</p> <p>Jajah is great for international calls to landlines (it's expensive for calling international mobiles). Yes, you can get some great rates using calling cards/ access numbers (which I used previously) but Jajah is often 30%-70% cheaper and it remembers all my numbers making it very convenient. Open the website, 2 clicks and my phone is ringing with my contact on the other end. </p> <p>Rebtel to me meets a niche need. That is calling international mobile numbers from my mobile (or a landline). If I called directly using my mobile it would cost 30 pence a minute. The Rebtel service at a dollar a week makes it very economical to call international mobiles if you have inclusive minutes on your mobile calling plan (to call the local access number). However Rebtel's appeal is limited for the following reasons:</p> <p>1)only relevant to a niche market (people who spend over a dollar a week calling international mobiles) AND who have inclusive minutes in their mobile plan</p> <p>2)it's complicated. you call your contact's access number, they hang up and then call another access number</p> <p>3)it has technical problems. the service worked great for a few weeks, however I've been unable to get it to work for the last few weeks despite repeated emails to Rebtel's technical support.</p> <p>So while Rebtel is (or rather was) saving me (as part of a niche market) some money, the convenience of Jajah makes me believe it has much wider appeal.</p> <p>James Alternative Energy Blog</p> I’m a user of both Jajah & Rebtel in my office.

I didn’t previously use Skype as I dislike using computer headsets (I much prefer my more expensive and much higher quality Plantronics telephone headset) even if I have to pay for the call (e.g. calling the U.S. is 2 pence per minute with an access number). I briefly tried Project Gizmo but disliked it for the same reasons as Skype.

My comments on Jajah and Rebtel.

Jajah is great for international calls to landlines (it’s expensive for calling international mobiles). Yes, you can get some great rates using calling cards/ access numbers (which I used previously) but Jajah is often 30%-70% cheaper and it remembers all my numbers making it very convenient. Open the website, 2 clicks and my phone is ringing with my contact on the other end.

Rebtel to me meets a niche need. That is calling international mobile numbers from my mobile (or a landline). If I called directly using my mobile it would cost 30 pence a minute. The Rebtel service at a dollar a week makes it very economical to call international mobiles if you have inclusive minutes on your mobile calling plan (to call the local access number). However Rebtel’s appeal is limited for the following reasons:

1)only relevant to a niche market (people who spend over a dollar a week calling international mobiles) AND who have inclusive minutes in their mobile plan

2)it’s complicated. you call your contact’s access number, they hang up and then call another access number

3)it has technical problems. the service worked great for a few weeks, however I’ve been unable to get it to work for the last few weeks despite repeated emails to Rebtel’s technical support.

So while Rebtel is (or rather was) saving me (as part of a niche market) some money, the convenience of Jajah makes me believe it has much wider appeal.

James
Alternative Energy Blog

]]> By: Money MakingRocket http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65852 Money MakingRocket Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:04:51 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65852 <p>The geate blog that I have seen ever on money making. Thanks!</p> The geate blog that I have seen ever on money making. Thanks!

]]> By: Alex http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65851 Alex Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:37:51 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65851 <p>true savings on mobile can only be achieved with WiFi, you are free to use / build your own network, most of your mobile calls are at home or in the office, sometimes in hotspots (most are FREE) , so why not follow the (( truphone )) track and go for a Nokia E60 E61. I think this is the future forward.</p> true savings on mobile can only be achieved with WiFi, you are free to use / build your own network, most of your mobile calls are at home or in the office, sometimes in hotspots (most are FREE) , so why not follow the (( truphone )) track and go for a Nokia E60 E61. I think this is the future forward.

]]> By: Arshad Merali http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65850 Arshad Merali Mon, 02 Oct 2006 01:56:19 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65850 <p>I use Jajah and find it to be very affordable and very convenient. I'm looking forward to using the mobile version on my Treo or Q.</p> I use Jajah and find it to be very affordable and very convenient. I’m looking forward to using the mobile version on my Treo or Q.

]]> By: Stefan Timm http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65849 Stefan Timm Fri, 29 Sep 2006 08:38:27 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65849 <p>There is a major diffence between markets like the US and China and the rest of the world.</p> <p>The rest of the world has "calling party pays". That means, a call to a mobile phone costs 10-20 cents a minute. Therefore a callback based service like JaJah does not make a lot of sense, especially for people how have a flatrate for outgoing cellular calls. Savings on extremely overprized international calls are better accomplished using a callthrough / calling card type of service and there are plenty. With my mobile (domeestic) flatrate I can call the US for 2 cents per minute from my cellphone.</p> <p>For Rebtel the problem I see is that in countries, where it is easy to get a PSTN number for such a service, you won't see high termination fees. Take a wholesale international price list and check it out.</p> <p>SLT</p> There is a major diffence between markets like the US and China and the rest of the world.

The rest of the world has “calling party pays”. That means, a call to a mobile phone costs 10-20 cents a minute. Therefore a callback based service like JaJah does not make a lot of sense, especially for people how have a flatrate for outgoing cellular calls. Savings on extremely overprized international calls are better accomplished using a callthrough / calling card type of service and there are plenty. With my mobile (domeestic) flatrate I can call the US for 2 cents per minute from my cellphone.

For Rebtel the problem I see is that in countries, where it is easy to get a PSTN number for such a service, you won’t see high termination fees. Take a wholesale international price list and check it out.

SLT

]]> By: Mats http://gigaom.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65848 Mats Fri, 29 Sep 2006 07:49:12 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/rebtel-jajah-and-callback-20/#comment-65848 <p>Rebtel works great from both mobiles and fixed phones, I have even used it from a hotel phone, needed to login thou because the system couldn't recognise that it was "me".</p> <p>/M</p> Rebtel works great from both mobiles and fixed phones, I have even used it from a hotel phone, needed to login thou because the system couldn’t recognise that it was “me”.

/M

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