Comments on: Who says broadband is easy http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/ Tracking the Internet Evolution Sun, 07 Sep 2008 08:16:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Kamal Halder http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-873178 Kamal Halder Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:30:40 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-873178 <p>I have gone through the entire post of this page.Can you all tell me what is the use of discussing this fact, we all know that our country is worst of all in service sectors you name it I can give you atleast 1000 incidents of that company say it Airtel, Reliance BSNL MTNL Vodaphone aircell you name it. Do our respected ministers or so called infrastructure setter is listening to this problems of peoples, they are just doing their best in what they are good, plundering India. I stay in a place where top brasses of people stays Police commisnor lawyer judge MLA but can you beleive me that in our area there is no Airtel, Reliance or BSNL brodband. no no BSNL is there but they have billed their bill without installing the modem or connection. Look the service and customer satisfaction status of this Bharat sanchar nigam limited. So respected all the condition is not going to improve until the so called Trai takes immediate action against this Operators.The only solution to meet the lat mile setup is wireless connectivity through WIFI which is doing great in the field of connectivity, the cost is also lower than that of OFC. Has too say a lot but got to go respected peoples.</p> I have gone through the entire post of this page.Can you all tell me what is the use of discussing this fact, we all know that our country is worst of all in service sectors you name it I can give you atleast 1000 incidents of that company say it Airtel, Reliance BSNL MTNL Vodaphone aircell you name it. Do our respected ministers or so called infrastructure setter is listening to this problems of peoples, they are just doing their best in what they are good, plundering India. I stay in a place where top brasses of people stays Police commisnor lawyer judge MLA but can you beleive me that in our area there is no Airtel, Reliance or BSNL brodband. no no BSNL is there but they have billed their bill without installing the modem or connection. Look the service and customer satisfaction status of this Bharat sanchar nigam limited. So respected all the condition is not going to improve until the so called Trai takes immediate action against this Operators.The only solution to meet the lat mile setup is wireless connectivity through WIFI which is doing great in the field of connectivity, the cost is also lower than that of OFC. Has too say a lot but got to go respected peoples.

]]> By: Alok Tiwari http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65326 Alok Tiwari Sun, 13 May 2007 14:38:44 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65326 <p>Hi Guys</p> <p>I wish to Comment about My Stupid ISP (TATA INDICOM - Broadband) connection and Their Services. I am really surprise to know that when problem comes My ISP Needs 2days to Make my problem rectified. Well Really Its Sucks when you know what the problem is and you are are able to rectifiy it within 3 minutes but your stupid so called administrator takes 2 days to fix a simple connection problem</p> <p>Only Stupid staff.</p> <p>I am by profession webmaster and I need connectivity. But I am stuck in between nontechnical stuff. (Don't be surprise if I say I am sitting in India's IT Capital Bangalore)</p> <p>Really Unprofessional ISP not recommended at all.</p> <p>My email id is mralokkp@gmail.com If any person that from TATA Indicom reading this feel free to mail/call me. I don't think they have some responcible person.</p> <p>ALOK TIWARI</p> Hi Guys

I wish to Comment about My Stupid ISP (TATA INDICOM - Broadband) connection and Their Services.
I am really surprise to know that when problem comes My ISP Needs 2days to Make my problem rectified.
Well Really Its Sucks when you know what the problem is and you are are able to rectifiy it within 3 minutes but your stupid so called administrator takes 2 days to fix a simple connection problem

Only Stupid staff.

I am by profession webmaster and I need connectivity. But I am stuck in between nontechnical stuff. (Don’t be surprise if I say I am sitting in India’s IT Capital Bangalore)

Really Unprofessional ISP not recommended at all.

My email id is mralokkp@gmail.com
If any person that from TATA Indicom reading this feel free to mail/call me.
I don’t think they have some responcible person.

ALOK TIWARI

]]> By: Shrikanth http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65325 Shrikanth Sun, 06 May 2007 17:32:12 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65325 <p>yeah...guys noe what?? THERE IS NO BEST ISP IN INDIA>>> the fact is these ISPS r cheaters..iN usa my bro gets 5mbps unl at 35$ = 1400 rs..n i also read in some forum that sing provides 25mbps @ 100 sing $ = 3000rs but in india 2mbps hit the shore 2 months back @@@ that too unlimitedis minimum gonna cost 4k+...2mbps hit the world long time back...i dunno why the hell new new isps arise with same old ancient dark age internet speeds with extraordinary prices..lol in other countries there r no different funny packages like in india..its std unlimited....so temme...is there any ISP in india which can provide me 5mbps atleast at 2000rs..??? ppl go n talking that india developed its gonna own the world etc etc..will the vision of 2020 come with a good broadband?</p> yeah…guys noe what?? THERE IS NO BEST ISP IN INDIA>>> the fact is these ISPS r cheaters..iN usa my bro gets 5mbps unl at 35$ = 1400 rs..n i also read in some forum that sing provides 25mbps @ 100 sing $ = 3000rs but in india 2mbps hit the shore 2 months back @@@ that too unlimitedis minimum gonna cost 4k+…2mbps hit the world long time back…i dunno why the hell new new isps arise with same old ancient dark age internet speeds with extraordinary prices..lol in other countries there r no different funny packages like in india..its std unlimited….so temme…is there any ISP in india which can provide me 5mbps atleast at 2000rs..??? ppl go n talking that india developed its gonna own the world etc etc..will the vision of 2020 come with a good broadband?

]]> By: Sachin http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65324 Sachin Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:11:50 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65324 <p>Hi, I do agree with the worst experience we had while availing sify broadband service, every night i leave my pc so that it can download some stuff and by morning i find that net had already gone off after 30-40 mins when i left pc..and my pc was working all night just for nothing and i had called up airtel many a times but they always say that they hadnt started their operations in my area and again i am left with no options, Sify really sucks, worst customer care, no response illetrate cable walas. customer care will only turn up once ur prepaid card ends up, and all during rest of month they will hide under neath their worst bull shit network.</p> Hi,
I do agree with the worst experience we had while availing sify broadband service, every night i leave my pc so that it can download some stuff and by morning i find that net had already gone off after 30-40 mins when i left pc..and my pc was working all night just for nothing and i had called up airtel many a times but they always say that they hadnt started their operations in my area and again i am left with no options, Sify really sucks, worst customer care, no response illetrate cable walas. customer care will only turn up once ur prepaid card ends up, and all during rest of month they will hide under neath their worst bull shit network.

]]> By: Data Card from Airtel at The TechTime Indian Blog http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65323 Data Card from Airtel at The TechTime Indian Blog Thu, 22 Feb 2007 18:01:50 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65323 <p>[...] and Sify is a major player is this area. However Sify is plagued with regular outages and this post by Shailja of GigaOM has an interesting perspective on [...]</p> [...] and Sify is a major player is this area. However Sify is plagued with regular outages and this post by Shailja of GigaOM has an interesting perspective on [...]

]]> By: miki http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65322 miki Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:44:49 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65322 <p>Nisheel, In Indian TRAI has classified 256Kbps (and above) as "broadband". When the regulatory authority itself has set such low standards why would IPS's set a higher standard?</p> Nisheel, In Indian TRAI has classified 256Kbps (and above) as “broadband”. When the regulatory authority itself has set such low standards why would IPS’s set a higher standard?

]]> By: Sameer http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65321 Sameer Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:53:59 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65321 <p>Finally, SIFY held to be indulging in Unfair Trade Practices… read at http://www.sifycase.org</p> Finally, SIFY held to be indulging in Unfair Trade Practices… read at (link)

]]> By: Nisheel http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65320 Nisheel Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:33:39 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65320 <p>Broadband in India is a joke. Its 256Kbps to 512Kbps at best and most have a download cap !!! The world has already moved from 1.5Mbps DSL which was the standard 5 yrs ago to 4-6Mbps connections. In singapore, Singtel and Starhub give you 25 Mbps connections at home (yes 25 Mbs !!) for Sing$100 a month…Rs.3000/-. I've used it while visiting there and words can't describe it Ohhh and don't get me started on customer service of these providers !!! Mr.Telecom Minister…can you stop calling Kbps "broadband"</p> Broadband in India is a joke. Its 256Kbps to 512Kbps at best and most have a download cap !!! The world has already moved from 1.5Mbps DSL which was the standard 5 yrs ago to 4-6Mbps connections. In singapore, Singtel and Starhub give you 25 Mbps connections at home (yes 25 Mbs !!) for Sing$100 a month…Rs.3000/-. I’ve used it while visiting there and words can’t describe it
Ohhh and don’t get me started on customer service of these providers !!!
Mr.Telecom Minister…can you stop calling Kbps “broadband”

]]> By: Udit http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65319 Udit Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:52:31 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65319 <p>We have been using MTNL for the past year in Delhi and the speed and service has been rather pleasing, even airtel's broadband is good in Delhi & NCR.</p> We have been using MTNL for the past year in Delhi and the speed and service has been rather pleasing, even airtel’s broadband is good in Delhi & NCR.

]]> By: KK http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65318 KK Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:02:23 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65318 <p>The un-bundling of local loop has been making rounds since many years. It is arguable whether it is fair on private players part to ask for it? </p> <p>BSNL and MTNL's more profitable fixed line subscribers are fast eroding. The cost of maintenance of such large infrastructure is also too huge, especially in rural area's where the infrastructure is underutilized (thanks to low penetration). Being only operator with pan India presence and having wired all of India, they can command significant premium for sharing the infrastructure. For the country, it means effective utilization of infrastructure and for BSNL it can mean more profits which has eluded them in poor density area. In another words it makes good business sense for BSNL and MTNL to do so provided they get good market price for it.</p> <p>I think Sify's Biz Model is suffering big time, thanks to unorganized cable TV operators (CTO).</p> <p>In Chennai, the cable TV is fairly organized. The majority of area is covered by only two CTOs' - SCV (Market leader) and Hathway. But still the Sify model has not succeeded very much. The major reason being SCV is not very keen to promote Sify. Well thats not all, Sify has its own sets of issue & problem with service. Just imagine when I called Sify's customer care they are not able to offer help, instead they say “Please contact you local CTO”. Heck, I contacted Airtel instead.</p> The un-bundling of local loop has been making rounds since many years. It is arguable whether it is fair on private players part to ask for it?

BSNL and MTNL’s more profitable fixed line subscribers are fast eroding. The cost of maintenance of such large infrastructure is also too huge, especially in rural area’s where the infrastructure is underutilized (thanks to low penetration). Being only operator with pan India presence and having wired all of India, they can command significant premium for sharing the infrastructure. For the country, it means effective utilization of infrastructure and for BSNL it can mean more profits which has eluded them in poor density area. In another words it makes good business sense for BSNL and MTNL to do so provided they get good market price for it.

I think Sify’s Biz Model is suffering big time, thanks to unorganized cable TV operators (CTO).

In Chennai, the cable TV is fairly organized. The majority of area is covered by only two CTOs’ - SCV (Market leader) and Hathway. But still the Sify model has not succeeded very much. The major reason being SCV is not very keen to promote Sify. Well thats not all, Sify has its own sets of issue & problem with service. Just imagine when I called Sify’s customer care they are not able to offer help, instead they say “Please contact you local CTO”. Heck, I contacted Airtel instead.

]]> By: Startups.in/India http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65317 Startups.in/India Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:06:13 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65317 <p><i>@Amit Doshi "Its the same in Bombay, and if its the same in Bombay and Delhi Im sure its worse everywhere else."</i></p> <p>That is quite a farcical statement. BSNL 500/Airtel 250 in Bangalore and Aksh BB/BSNL in Hyderabad works well for what it's worth.</p> @Amit Doshi “Its the same in Bombay, and if its the same in Bombay and Delhi Im sure its worse everywhere else.”

That is quite a farcical statement. BSNL 500/Airtel 250 in Bangalore and Aksh BB/BSNL in Hyderabad works well for what it’s worth.

]]> By: Alistair http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65316 Alistair Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:53:31 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65316 <p>Shailaja,</p> <p>Some background; I live in and am an investor in last-mile retail networks in metropolitan Russia.</p> <p>I don't believe that the urban density is much different between metropolitan Russia and Mumbai, Dehli et al.</p> <p>PDI is not that different either i.e. cash left in pocket to spend after essentials; food, drink, credit cards and hire purchase - clearly on a per capita basis there is an issue but if you were to cull the richest 11 million people in Dehli or (and not and) Mumbai PDI falls back in to line.</p> <p>So why are start-ups waiting for the established guys to let them in? A company in which I am an investor installs 100mb to the customer FTTH networks (1Gb to the home - home being a block of flats) for $15 a home passed. India's metropolis can do the same - why isn't it?</p> <p>I am sure that India could do the same</p> Shailaja,

Some background; I live in and am an investor in last-mile retail networks in metropolitan Russia.

I don’t believe that the urban density is much different between metropolitan Russia and Mumbai, Dehli et al.

PDI is not that different either i.e. cash left in pocket to spend after essentials; food, drink, credit cards and hire purchase - clearly on a per capita basis there is an issue but if you were to cull the richest 11 million people in Dehli or (and not and) Mumbai PDI falls back in to line.

So why are start-ups waiting for the established guys to let them in? A company in which I am an investor installs 100mb to the customer FTTH networks (1Gb to the home - home being a block of flats) for $15 a home passed. India’s metropolis can do the same - why isn’t it?

I am sure that India could do the same

]]> By: Raj http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65315 Raj Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:20:35 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65315 <p>Probably a group of people should start doing what MCI worldcom did to incumbent providers in US. Please let me know about your opinion. I will definitely be interested in joining hands in making such an effort happen.</p> Probably a group of people should start doing what MCI worldcom did to incumbent providers in US. Please let me know about your opinion. I will definitely be interested in joining hands in making such an effort happen.

]]> By: Sandeep Kaul http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65314 Sandeep Kaul Tue, 19 Sep 2006 17:13:39 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65314 <p>Hey Shailaja, I had a similar problem in getting a refund of 1,000 rupees from Airtel. Customer Care kept giving me dates. Finally, I sent a fax to Sunil Mittal asking for company policy on refunds from him. Still no response. Sent him another fax stating that the company's inability to refund 1,000 bucks (rupees) indicated severe cash flow problems and, if that was the case, I could lend the company 10,000 rupees to help them tide over the crisis. Got the cheque two days later!! No joke…this is real!!!</p> Hey Shailaja, I had a similar problem in getting a refund of 1,000 rupees from Airtel. Customer Care kept giving me dates. Finally, I sent a fax to Sunil Mittal asking for company policy on refunds from him. Still no response. Sent him another fax stating that the company’s inability to refund 1,000 bucks (rupees) indicated severe cash flow problems and, if that was the case, I could lend the company 10,000 rupees to help them tide over the crisis. Got the cheque two days later!! No joke…this is real!!!

]]> By: IndianPad http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65313 IndianPad Tue, 19 Sep 2006 15:37:37 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65313 <p><strong>Broadband in India has major last-mile issues…</strong></p> <p>Broadband in India has major last-mile issues posted at IndianPad.com…</p> Broadband in India has major last-mile issues…

Broadband in India has major last-mile issues posted at IndianPad.com…

]]> By: Sankar Anand http://gigaom.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65312 Sankar Anand Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:23:18 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/19/who-says-broadband-is-easy/#comment-65312 <p>forgot to tell…</p> <p>i think reliance is giving a best option 5k per month and 2mbps connection with 20 gb limit… that was a nice offer…</p> forgot to tell…

i think reliance is giving a best option 5k per month and 2mbps connection with 20 gb limit… that was a nice offer…

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