Comments on: Evan Williams: How Odeo Screwed Up http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/ Tracking the Internet Evolution Mon, 12 May 2008 05:01:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: network-sense.com » Blog Archive » Obviously http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-857024 network-sense.com » Blog Archive » Obviously Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:38:58 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-857024 <p>[...] In September he outlined what he thought ODEO’s top 5 mistakes were [via GigaOM] [...]</p> [...] In September he outlined what he thought ODEO’s top 5 mistakes were [via GigaOM] [...]

]]> By: Karib Corner-Blog Reports » Blog Archive » Odeo Bought Back From Investors http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-358995 Karib Corner-Blog Reports » Blog Archive » Odeo Bought Back From Investors Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:58:51 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-358995 <p>[...] a year later and Odeo now faces dozens of competitors, including iTunes. Founder Evan Williams has spoken publicly about the company’s mistakes, has shut down one service and has launched another. If [...]</p> [...] a year later and Odeo now faces dozens of competitors, including iTunes. Founder Evan Williams has spoken publicly about the company’s mistakes, has shut down one service and has launched another. If [...]

]]> By: Twitter Raising a VC Round? « Kevin Burton’s NEW FeedBlog http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-126202 Twitter Raising a VC Round? « Kevin Burton’s NEW FeedBlog Thu, 31 May 2007 04:51:17 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-126202 <p>[...] but wait. Isn’t raising a VC round the non-obvious thing to do (pun intended) [...]</p> [...] but wait. Isn’t raising a VC round the non-obvious thing to do (pun intended) [...]

]]> By: Blogger & Podcaster: The Blog » Blog Archive » Odeo’s New Home http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65138 Blogger & Podcaster: The Blog » Blog Archive » Odeo’s New Home Sat, 12 May 2007 02:05:48 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65138 <p>[...] Congrats to Evan Williams for selling Odeo for a reported $1,000,000 and welcome to the industry in a big way SonicMountain. Launched in November 2006 this little known group is obviously filled with folks with big plans as you can see from the news on their website. I’m sure they’ll pay attention to the things not to do as refreshingly detailed by Evan and reported on GigaOM. [...]</p> [...] Congrats to Evan Williams for selling Odeo for a reported $1,000,000 and welcome to the industry in a big way SonicMountain. Launched in November 2006 this little known group is obviously filled with folks with big plans as you can see from the news on their website. I’m sure they’ll pay attention to the things not to do as refreshingly detailed by Evan and reported on GigaOM. [...]

]]> By: NewTeeVee » SonicMountain’s Odeo Plans Include Video http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65137 NewTeeVee » SonicMountain’s Odeo Plans Include Video Thu, 10 May 2007 20:31:24 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65137 <p>[...] founder Evan Williams has admitted that he made mistakes developing Odeo, primarily that he built a product “for other people” — not as [...]</p> [...] founder Evan Williams has admitted that he made mistakes developing Odeo, primarily that he built a product “for other people” — not as [...]

]]> By: Wis.dom.net » Blog Archive » Get Wise http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65136 Wis.dom.net » Blog Archive » Get Wise Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:10:10 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65136 <p>[...] Odeo. Although it’s not dead yet. [...]</p> [...] Odeo. Although it’s not dead yet. [...]

]]> By: Lynne http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65135 Lynne Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:57:37 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65135 <p>I love Odeo! It's easy to use, it's free (although now I would be willing to pay a bit - like with Flickr). And it's mostly reliable, even though right now I can't log in! Grrr</p> <p>Still Odeo and the sites like it are what the net has always been about. Communication, not just making money.</p> I love Odeo! It’s easy to use, it’s free (although now I would be willing to pay a bit - like with Flickr). And it’s mostly reliable, even though right now I can’t log in! Grrr

Still Odeo and the sites like it are what the net has always been about. Communication, not just making money.

]]> By: Brave Tech World http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65134 Brave Tech World Wed, 08 Nov 2006 19:10:57 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65134 <p><strong>Top 7 mistakes at Sampa, a Startup tale…</strong></p> <p>On the footsteps of Evan Williams (Odeo) and Andy Sack (Judy's Book) talking about decisions, strategy and executions that didn't go so well on their company, I also decided to write my own version of it with regards to Sampa.       There are t…</p> Top 7 mistakes at Sampa, a Startup tale…

On the footsteps of Evan Williams (Odeo) and Andy Sack (Judy’s Book) talking about decisions, strategy and executions that didn’t go so well on their company, I also decided to write my own version of it with regards to Sampa.       There are t…

]]> By: tribe.net: gigaom.com http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65133 tribe.net: gigaom.com Fri, 20 Oct 2006 01:38:58 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65133 <p><strong>Re: Worthwhile advice from solid entrepreneurs…</strong></p> <p>Here's another good link, and while dated by just over a year, still worth an…</p> Re: Worthwhile advice from solid entrepreneurs…

Here’s another good link, and while dated by just over a year, still worth an…

]]> By: Hashim http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65132 Hashim Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:28:34 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65132 <p>Revenue model? Please - they're looking to be bought. That's why there's no revenue model!</p> Revenue model? Please - they’re looking to be bought. That’s why there’s no revenue model!

]]> By: MasterMaq's Blog http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65131 MasterMaq's Blog Thu, 21 Sep 2006 03:32:35 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65131 <p><strong>Wired News gets Odeo all wrong…</strong></p> <p>I think the staff at Wired News must have missed the memo about Odeo. In a list of Web 2.0 Winners and…</p> Wired News gets Odeo all wrong…

I think the staff at Wired News must have missed the memo about Odeo. In a list of Web 2.0 Winners and…

]]> By: tecosystems http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65130 tecosystems Wed, 20 Sep 2006 18:31:56 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65130 <p><strong>Network Offering: If You Build It, I Will Buy It (And Some Other Folks Might, Too)…</strong></p> <p>Over the past 12 months or so, I've been having numerous offline conversations and minor blog mentions of what I've variously referred to as a network offering, productized package management, and more. The idea is in actuality fairly simple, but…</p> Network Offering: If You Build It, I Will Buy It (And Some Other Folks Might, Too)…

Over the past 12 months or so, I’ve been having numerous offline conversations and minor blog mentions of what I’ve variously referred to as a network offering, productized package management, and more. The idea is in actuality fairly simple, but…

]]> By: Tehnokratt! http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65129 Tehnokratt! Tue, 19 Sep 2006 20:12:32 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65129 <p><strong>äpardus kuubis…</strong></p> <p>Kuna äpardus kuubis on nüüd avalik, siis ma võin vist oma eila siseringile saadetud teksti avalikuks panna…</p> äpardus kuubis…

Kuna äpardus kuubis on nüüd avalik, siis ma võin vist oma eila siseringile saadetud teksti avalikuks panna…

]]> By: Kareem Mayan's Links http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65128 Kareem Mayan's Links Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:10:29 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65128 <p><strong>Mistakes Odeo made in building their service…</strong></p> <p>http://software.gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/…</p> Mistakes Odeo made in building their service…

http://software.gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/…;

]]> By: Mark S http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65127 Mark S Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:53:45 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65127 <p>Evan,</p> <p>I was the guy challenging (not really you) but the concept of not having a business model which I believe is much more than simply a revenue model.</p> <p>I agree on the point of risk. If an individual can afford the time and opportunity cost to start a website with no idea of other business basics then cool…as I said.</p> <p>Nevertheless, I don't believe this is sound advice as a general rule just as I didn't believe 'eyeballs' was a solid metric to evaluate a business' performance. In the end, as you know, it's about cash flow. Out of cash, no matter how cool or useful you are, you're out of business.</p> <p>I think you will also see companies developing over the next two years that earn money outside of subscriptions or advertising yet are very much tied to consumer-side service.</p> <p>Here is a link to my blog on this subject: http://markeseremet.blogspot.com/2006/09/bubbles-business-birds-of-feather-and.html</p> <p>btw - I have a lot of respect for you. Your presentation was otherwise superior. You shared success, failure, and many sound ideas. In all, I felt you came off human, experienced, and very entrepreneurial.</p> Evan,

I was the guy challenging (not really you) but the concept of not having a business model which I believe is much more than simply a revenue model.

I agree on the point of risk. If an individual can afford the time and opportunity cost to start a website with no idea of other business basics then cool…as I said.

Nevertheless, I don’t believe this is sound advice as a general rule just as I didn’t believe ‘eyeballs’ was a solid metric to evaluate a business’ performance. In the end, as you know, it’s about cash flow. Out of cash, no matter how cool or useful you are, you’re out of business.

I think you will also see companies developing over the next two years that earn money outside of subscriptions or advertising yet are very much tied to consumer-side service.

Here is a link to my blog on this subject:
http://markeseremet.blogspot.com/2006/09/bubbles-business-birds-of-feather-and.html

btw - I have a lot of respect for you. Your presentation was otherwise superior. You shared success, failure, and many sound ideas. In all, I felt you came off human, experienced, and very entrepreneurial.

]]> By: Bob Aman http://gigaom.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65126 Bob Aman Fri, 15 Sep 2006 20:02:08 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/2006/09/14/evan-williams-how-odeo-screwed-up/#comment-65126 <p>I was always surprised that Odeo didn't try to offer inexpensive audio hosting on the side. Twitter, while actually being more useful than the parent application, never struck me as a sensible side project, but hosting, well, at least that makes sense.</p> I was always surprised that Odeo didn’t try to offer inexpensive audio hosting on the side. Twitter, while actually being more useful than the parent application, never struck me as a sensible side project, but hosting, well, at least that makes sense.

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