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		<title>By: On A Path To Nowhere: Tech News &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/23/sony-hooks-up-with-grouper/#comment-511759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[On A Path To Nowhere: Tech News &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Nov 2010 08:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] If history has taught anything, photo services are great ideas but terrible businesses. Many become popular, but in the end struggle to find a business model. Such fate awaits many of these companies, including Path, which is also bearing the additional weight of history. Back in 2004, Josh Felser started a private media-sharing network, Grouper. He had to pivot from the original before selling the company to Sony. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If history has taught anything, photo services are great ideas but terrible businesses. Many become popular, but in the end struggle to find a business model. Such fate awaits many of these companies, including Path, which is also bearing the additional weight of history. Back in 2004, Josh Felser started a private media-sharing network, Grouper. He had to pivot from the original before selling the company to Sony. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Video: Josh Felser on Angels vs. VCs, Me-Toos &#38; What Startups Need to Know: Tech News &#171;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/23/sony-hooks-up-with-grouper/#comment-301178</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Video: Josh Felser on Angels vs. VCs, Me-Toos &#38; What Startups Need to Know: Tech News &#171;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 21:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] a year ago, Josh Felser, co-founder of the Web 1.0 era music service Spinner.com and more recently, online video service, Grouper, decided to forego being an entrepreneur and instead become an angel investor. He and David Samuel [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a year ago, Josh Felser, co-founder of the Web 1.0 era music service Spinner.com and more recently, online video service, Grouper, decided to forego being an entrepreneur and instead become an angel investor. He and David Samuel [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 'Angel of Death' Summoned By Spike TV, DVD To Follow</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/23/sony-hooks-up-with-grouper/#comment-122855</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA['Angel of Death' Summoned By Spike TV, DVD To Follow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] fruit. Total streams on the site are up 84% in the first quarter. At some point Sony&#8217;s $65 Million acquisition of the former P2P sharing site will start paying [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fruit. Total streams on the site are up 84% in the first quarter. At some point Sony&#8217;s $65 Million acquisition of the former P2P sharing site will start paying [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Crackle Moving To SPE Headquarters &#124; Sony Insider</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/23/sony-hooks-up-with-grouper/#comment-122854</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crackle Moving To SPE Headquarters &#124; Sony Insider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] join its corporate parent, Sony Pictures Entertainment. The move comes more than two years after Sony acquired Crackle, then called Grouper. It is also being accompanied by the departure of most of Crackle’s staff, [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] join its corporate parent, Sony Pictures Entertainment. The move comes more than two years after Sony acquired Crackle, then called Grouper. It is also being accompanied by the departure of most of Crackle’s staff, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Crackle Shutting NorCal Office to Move in with Parent Sony &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/23/sony-hooks-up-with-grouper/#comment-122853</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Crackle Shutting NorCal Office to Move in with Parent Sony &#171; NewTeeVee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to join its corporate parent, Sony Pictures Entertainment. The move comes more than two years after Sony acquired Crackle, then called Grouper. It is also being accompanied by the departure of most of Crackle&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to join its corporate parent, Sony Pictures Entertainment. The move comes more than two years after Sony acquired Crackle, then called Grouper. It is also being accompanied by the departure of most of Crackle&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/23/sony-hooks-up-with-grouper/#comment-122852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 05:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;For Sony the $65M investment, is not a large one, but one which may enable Sony to create some new and interesting products.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It is no doubt that the music and film industry must renew themselves, if they are going to make headway now and in the future. One of the key elements that Sony will need to focus on, which I am sure Sony is doing, and that is to find a way to make money off their films and music online.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Sony the $65M investment, is not a large one, but one which may enable Sony to create some new and interesting products.</p>
<p>It is no doubt that the music and film industry must renew themselves, if they are going to make headway now and in the future. One of the key elements that Sony will need to focus on, which I am sure Sony is doing, and that is to find a way to make money off their films and music online.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/23/sony-hooks-up-with-grouper/#comment-122851</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;For my money, Metacafe gets gobbled up first - Disney would be a perfect partner for them. Or TW, if they can figure their game out.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For my money, Metacafe gets gobbled up first &#8211; Disney would be a perfect partner for them. Or TW, if they can figure their game out.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/23/sony-hooks-up-with-grouper/#comment-122850</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Steve, you right. We be bubbling. Anyway I was being greedy and saving rest of the information for another post. You guys want me to post the comparative data etc, in this post or a new one. Your call. Saves time for me.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, you right. We be bubbling. Anyway I was being greedy and saving rest of the information for another post. You guys want me to post the comparative data etc, in this post or a new one. Your call. Saves time for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kareem</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/23/sony-hooks-up-with-grouper/#comment-122849</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kareem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;This deal is all about two things IMO:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ol&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sony wants to stay cool and relevant (think eBay-Skype)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;The platform. Grouper is a web-p2p hybrid media distribution platform. Sony, if its smart, will leverage it to pioneer a standard in commercial, hi-res video and film distribution. A more likely scenario is that Sony will be Sony, and make it a propriety platform for their content and devices only.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ol&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At any rate, the shakeup is upon us. Look for other hip Web 2.0 startups with hybrid web-p2p distribution platforms (MetaCafe, Veoh, Pando) to get gobbled up next.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This deal is all about two things IMO:</p>
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<p>Sony wants to stay cool and relevant (think eBay-Skype)</p>
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<p>The platform. Grouper is a web-p2p hybrid media distribution platform. Sony, if its smart, will leverage it to pioneer a standard in commercial, hi-res video and film distribution. A more likely scenario is that Sony will be Sony, and make it a propriety platform for their content and devices only.</p>
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<p>At any rate, the shakeup is upon us. Look for other hip Web 2.0 startups with hybrid web-p2p distribution platforms (MetaCafe, Veoh, Pando) to get gobbled up next.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/23/sony-hooks-up-with-grouper/#comment-122848</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;my gosh, onm, your bubble fever is heating up. congrats and all to the grouper folks, but what the heck does it mean to say &quot;Grouper.com has increased its market share of web visits by 1,678% from January 2006 to July 2006&quot;? That would be true if Grouper had only one &quot;web visit&quot; in Jan 06 and then 17 in July 06, no? (What exactly is a &quot;web visit&quot; anyway? Is it a unique visitor? Or a unique visit? Or none of those?)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Likewise, what in the world does it mean to say &quot;Comparing the week ending August 19, 2006 versus the week ending January 7, 2006 Grouper.com has increased its market share of visits by 1,144%&quot;? Again, have they increased from one &quot;visit&quot; in the first week to 12 in the latter? And does that mean they have a big site user base? Compared to what? And by who? And what is a &quot;visit&quot;? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hot dang, we be bubblin&#039;!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my gosh, onm, your bubble fever is heating up. congrats and all to the grouper folks, but what the heck does it mean to say &#8220;Grouper.com has increased its market share of web visits by 1,678% from January 2006 to July 2006&#8243;? That would be true if Grouper had only one &#8220;web visit&#8221; in Jan 06 and then 17 in July 06, no? (What exactly is a &#8220;web visit&#8221; anyway? Is it a unique visitor? Or a unique visit? Or none of those?)</p>
<p>Likewise, what in the world does it mean to say &#8220;Comparing the week ending August 19, 2006 versus the week ending January 7, 2006 Grouper.com has increased its market share of visits by 1,144%&#8221;? Again, have they increased from one &#8220;visit&#8221; in the first week to 12 in the latter? And does that mean they have a big site user base? Compared to what? And by who? And what is a &#8220;visit&#8221;? </p>
<p>Hot dang, we be bubblin&#8217;!</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/23/sony-hooks-up-with-grouper/#comment-122847</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;How many of your neighbors have Bravia? How many in your friends circle. And that is the issue. Even PSP did not pan out for them really!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many of your neighbors have Bravia? How many in your friends circle. And that is the issue. Even PSP did not pan out for them really!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Markman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/23/sony-hooks-up-with-grouper/#comment-122846</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Markman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;no Sony hits? And Bravia is what--chopped liver?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no Sony hits? And Bravia is what&#8211;chopped liver?</p>
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