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		<title>By: After Long Delays, In-Flight Broadband Is Taking Of</title>
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		<dc:creator>After Long Delays, In-Flight Broadband Is Taking Of</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 15:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] has been similar to that of airplanes sitting on the runway, waiting for clearance to take flight. Despite a big push from Boeing and other major international carriers, in-flight broadband was stuck on ground, burning dollars [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has been similar to that of airplanes sitting on the runway, waiting for clearance to take flight. Despite a big push from Boeing and other major international carriers, in-flight broadband was stuck on ground, burning dollars [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alaska Airlines To Offer InFlight Internet Access</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-929120</link>
		<dc:creator>Alaska Airlines To Offer InFlight Internet Access</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] vying to carve a piece of the inflight broadband. (Related: Inflight Broadband Cheat Sheet &amp; Boeing, Boeing&#8230; Gone.)    [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] vying to carve a piece of the inflight broadband. (Related: Inflight Broadband Cheat Sheet &amp; Boeing, Boeing&#8230; Gone.)    [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ITechTips</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-60031</link>
		<dc:creator>ITechTips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Boeing&#039;s Connexion Service Bites the Dust&#8230;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Loiclemeur reports that Boeing&#039;s Wifi in the Sky service &#8211; Connexion won&#039;t be offered anymore and it will be stopped due to escalating costs. Boeing Chairman, President and CEO Jim McNerney said &#8220;Regrettably, the market for this service h&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Boeing&#8217;s Connexion Service Bites the Dust&#8230;</strong></p>

<p>Loiclemeur reports that Boeing&#8217;s Wifi in the Sky service &ndash; Connexion won&#8217;t be offered anymore and it will be stopped due to escalating costs. Boeing Chairman, President and CEO Jim McNerney said &ldquo;Regrettably, the market for this service h&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-60030</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The biggest problem that Boeing faced was a flawed business model based on flawed (and self-serving) market research. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The second biggest problem they had was that they needed extremely high uptake (over 30% of passengers per flight) and 10x the number of flights that had been outfitted just to get to break even. Given that they could not control which carriers or which planes had the service, and since they were shut out of the US market, they had no chance of reaching critical mass. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;After these, there are numerous barriers to consumption that were never considered included:
- access to power
- space
- security restrictions
- lack of technical support for less sophisticated users that couldn&#039;t figure out how to get in, or cope with need to change settings
- competition for my time from everything else I could be doing that didn&#039;t cost so much
- desire by travellers to be off the grid for a while
- did I mention the price was too high?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;See a detailed analysis of the numbers and marketing mistakes at:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://thewaythingsare.typepad.com/antimarketer/2006/08/boeing_booboo.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest problem that Boeing faced was a flawed business model based on flawed (and self-serving) market research. </p>

<p>The second biggest problem they had was that they needed extremely high uptake (over 30% of passengers per flight) and 10x the number of flights that had been outfitted just to get to break even. Given that they could not control which carriers or which planes had the service, and since they were shut out of the US market, they had no chance of reaching critical mass. </p>

<p>After these, there are numerous barriers to consumption that were never considered included:
- access to power
- space
- security restrictions
- lack of technical support for less sophisticated users that couldn&#8217;t figure out how to get in, or cope with need to change settings
- competition for my time from everything else I could be doing that didn&#8217;t cost so much
- desire by travellers to be off the grid for a while
- did I mention the price was too high?</p>

<p>See a detailed analysis of the numbers and marketing mistakes at:</p>

<p><a href="http://thewaythingsare.typepad.com/antimarketer/2006/08/boeing_booboo.html" rel="nofollow">http://thewaythingsare.typepad.com/antimarketer/2006/08/boeing_booboo.html</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Telco 2.0</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-60029</link>
		<dc:creator>Telco 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The lessons for FMC operators from airphones&#8230;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Today&#8217;s announcement by Ryanair that they plan to enable GSM roaming on their flights provides a useful lesson to carriers thinking of deploying fixed-mobile convergence (FMC) solutions. Historically telephones on aircraft have been a commercial &#8230;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The lessons for FMC operators from airphones&#8230;</strong></p>

<p>Today&#8217;s announcement by Ryanair that they plan to enable GSM roaming on their flights provides a useful lesson to carriers thinking of deploying fixed-mobile convergence (FMC) solutions. Historically telephones on aircraft have been a commercial &#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: vinnie mirchandani</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-60028</link>
		<dc:creator>vinnie mirchandani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2006 13:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Om, I think the US airlines did Boeing a dissservice by not allowing US consumers a choice - see my post at&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://dealarchitect.typepad.com/deal&lt;em&gt;architect/2006/08/the&lt;/em&gt;customers_w.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om, I think the US airlines did Boeing a dissservice by not allowing US consumers a choice &#8211; see my post at</p>

<p><a href="http://dealarchitect.typepad.com/deal" rel="nofollow">http://dealarchitect.typepad.com/deal</a><em>architect/2006/08/the</em>customers_w.html</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-60027</link>
		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t forget, it&#039;s not just paying $30 for wifi, but even on a long flight, you only get it for 2-3 hours depending on the life of your laptop battery. not everyone travels with 2-3 charged batteries (and then you worry about them alighting on fire). If they coupled wifi with plugs to keep your laptops running, then maybe this makes a lot more sense quickly&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-josh&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget, it&#8217;s not just paying $30 for wifi, but even on a long flight, you only get it for 2-3 hours depending on the life of your laptop battery. not everyone travels with 2-3 charged batteries (and then you worry about them alighting on fire). If they coupled wifi with plugs to keep your laptops running, then maybe this makes a lot more sense quickly&#8230;</p>

<p>-josh</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-60026</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Glenn has it dead on terms of the current state of the market.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t mis-interpret Connexion shutting down as a lack of demand for the service from passengers.  The passenger usage has been growing consistently since launch and is exceeding the airline&#039;s expectations.  Lufthansa has indicated they will find a way to keep service live.  The failure was to get a critical mass of airlines to cover their huge fixed costs.  The high cost per plane and heavy equipment weight tempered airline adoption.  The new solutions (AirCell) being rolled out in the US via ground networks solve both these problems and offer a more attractive price to the passenger.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn has it dead on terms of the current state of the market.</p>

<p>Don&#8217;t mis-interpret Connexion shutting down as a lack of demand for the service from passengers.  The passenger usage has been growing consistently since launch and is exceeding the airline&#8217;s expectations.  Lufthansa has indicated they will find a way to keep service live.  The failure was to get a critical mass of airlines to cover their huge fixed costs.  The high cost per plane and heavy equipment weight tempered airline adoption.  The new solutions (AirCell) being rolled out in the US via ground networks solve both these problems and offer a more attractive price to the passenger.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Michael Urlockder</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-60025</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Urlockder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My view: Don&#039;t trust what people say; trust to what they do.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Market research said there was a big market for this service. But user actions suggest otherwise.  As an example, onboard airline telephone systems are often idle, which lead Verizon to cancel its Airfone service.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My hunch is that these activities would rate low on surveys, but are highly valued on airplanes:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;* Snooze;
* Daydream;
* Watch movie.
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;

&lt;p&gt;More at:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.ondisruption.com/my&lt;em&gt;weblog/2006/08/boeing&lt;/em&gt;pulls_pl.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My view: Don&#8217;t trust what people say; trust to what they do.</p>

<p>Market research said there was a big market for this service. But user actions suggest otherwise.  As an example, onboard airline telephone systems are often idle, which lead Verizon to cancel its Airfone service.</p>

<p>My hunch is that these activities would rate low on surveys, but are highly valued on airplanes:</p>

<pre><code>* Snooze;
* Daydream;
* Watch movie.
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<p>More at:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.ondisruption.com/my" rel="nofollow">http://www.ondisruption.com/my</a><em>weblog/2006/08/boeing</em>pulls_pl.html</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Michael Klinger</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-60024</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Klinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is a bright side to this story, which I mentioned in my own blog entry yesterday. So far, not too many other folks are as pleased as I am about this big step backwards&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a bright side to this story, which I mentioned in my own blog entry yesterday. So far, not too many other folks are as pleased as I am about this big step backwards&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kevin Peyton</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-60023</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Peyton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was going to suggest that keeping a wi-fi router on board, with a simple local service for irc interaction might be amusing for passengers in the absence of net connectivity&#8230;but maybe not if you consider that this could be easily used for mustering activities of a terrorist nature&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to suggest that keeping a wi-fi router on board, with a simple local service for irc interaction might be amusing for passengers in the absence of net connectivity&#8230;but maybe not if you consider that this could be easily used for mustering activities of a terrorist nature&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Glenn Fleishman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-60022</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Fleishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 05:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One more thought. Another commenter asked how new domestic services would differ from Connexion. Connexion uses satellite bandwidth and they had to lease fixed transponders to provide worldwide coverage. That cost structure was part of their downfall. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;AirCell and whatever JetBlue deploys will use air-to-ground transmissions that will allow either company to build a relatively small array of ground stations. AirCell already operates ground stations for general (private) aviation, and has offered services for that market for several years.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;OnAir in Europe will use satellite for backhaul to planes, but they&#039;re piggybacking on Inmarsat&#039;s 4th generation satellites, which allow them to buy on a more a la carte basis. They don&#039;t have to lock up and pay for transponders that they&#039;re not using. Their usage costs will be quite high, and look for very high pricing on in-flight usage in Europe because of this unless a ground-station variant is launched, which seems unlikely in the near future.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thought. Another commenter asked how new domestic services would differ from Connexion. Connexion uses satellite bandwidth and they had to lease fixed transponders to provide worldwide coverage. That cost structure was part of their downfall. </p>

<p>AirCell and whatever JetBlue deploys will use air-to-ground transmissions that will allow either company to build a relatively small array of ground stations. AirCell already operates ground stations for general (private) aviation, and has offered services for that market for several years.</p>

<p>OnAir in Europe will use satellite for backhaul to planes, but they&#8217;re piggybacking on Inmarsat&#8217;s 4th generation satellites, which allow them to buy on a more a la carte basis. They don&#8217;t have to lock up and pay for transponders that they&#8217;re not using. Their usage costs will be quite high, and look for very high pricing on in-flight usage in Europe because of this unless a ground-station variant is launched, which seems unlikely in the near future.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Glenn Fleishman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-60021</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn Fleishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 05:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;JetBlue, for instance has won special licenses that all allow it to deploy wireless broadband on its jets and offer communication services. It remains to be seen what happens to that service.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I keep seeing an emphasis on JetBlue, but they won the 1 MHz license. AirCell won the 3 MHz license, which is where broadband will actually be deployed. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To the commenter who said he heard that Wi-Fi was available on JetBlue already -- they may have been announcing free Wi-Fi in some JetBlue terminals, such as JFK.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is no Wi-Fi available in commercial aviation outside the Connexion service at the moment. JetBlue and AirCell haven&#039;t even received their licenses yet; the final process is still underway at the FCC following the conclusion of the auction a few weeks ago.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;JetBlue, for instance has won special licenses that all allow it to deploy wireless broadband on its jets and offer communication services. It remains to be seen what happens to that service.&#8221;</p>

<p>I keep seeing an emphasis on JetBlue, but they won the 1 MHz license. AirCell won the 3 MHz license, which is where broadband will actually be deployed. </p>

<p>To the commenter who said he heard that Wi-Fi was available on JetBlue already &#8212; they may have been announcing free Wi-Fi in some JetBlue terminals, such as JFK.</p>

<p>There is no Wi-Fi available in commercial aviation outside the Connexion service at the moment. JetBlue and AirCell haven&#8217;t even received their licenses yet; the final process is still underway at the FCC following the conclusion of the auction a few weeks ago.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Johan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-60020</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Aug 2006 00:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, that is some shocking news actually. I regularly (well, I don&#039;t travel taht often, but&#8230;) used the service on the SAS flights between Japan and Scandinavia. The staff gave out free 1 hour try-out kits to everyone who wanted one, and marketing from SAS side was good - it was clear beforehand which flights had the service etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I can see the problem if the same could not be said for the US market - as you all say, that is where the big market potential is for this, not a few travelers from Japan&#8230;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Too bad though, it was a good service and I will miss it (until something new comes along&#8230;)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that is some shocking news actually. I regularly (well, I don&#8217;t travel taht often, but&#8230;) used the service on the SAS flights between Japan and Scandinavia. The staff gave out free 1 hour try-out kits to everyone who wanted one, and marketing from SAS side was good &#8211; it was clear beforehand which flights had the service etc.</p>

<p>But I can see the problem if the same could not be said for the US market &#8211; as you all say, that is where the big market potential is for this, not a few travelers from Japan&#8230;</p>

<p>Too bad though, it was a good service and I will miss it (until something new comes along&#8230;)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-60019</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow&#8230; seems REALLY early to make the judgement that there&#039;s no market. First, there&#039;s minimal implementation, and second it seems short-sighted, since this isn&#039;t something that we&#039;re NOT going to have in the future. Tech doesn&#039;t eliminate itself, it changes form. It seems like they could have retool, slowed down, redirected, something. But removing themselves from the inevitable running seems bizarre.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; seems REALLY early to make the judgement that there&#8217;s no market. First, there&#8217;s minimal implementation, and second it seems short-sighted, since this isn&#8217;t something that we&#8217;re NOT going to have in the future. Tech doesn&#8217;t eliminate itself, it changes form. It seems like they could have retool, slowed down, redirected, something. But removing themselves from the inevitable running seems bizarre.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tubby Bartles</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/17/boeing-boeing-gone/#comment-60018</link>
		<dc:creator>Tubby Bartles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The service is great (I&#039;ve used it) and in a smart world would have survived, but both Boeing and the airlines weren&#039;t that bright.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They were asking the question &quot;can we get the masses on an airplane to buy it at $30 a pop&quot;. The answer is (and always was) &quot;no, but that&#039;s the wrong question&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The real question is &quot;if we advertise that our flights have it, how much more can we charge and how many more tickets would we sell relative to our competitors.&quot; This question was never asked - as much as I enjoyed it when it was avialable on Lufthansa, neither my travel agent nor Lufthansa could tell me ahead of time whether the flight would have it when I was booking my tickets. Thus, I was never willing to pay more, but because they didn&#039;t know or promote it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s sad to see a good technical service collapse due to business stupidity.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The service is great (I&#8217;ve used it) and in a smart world would have survived, but both Boeing and the airlines weren&#8217;t that bright.</p>

<p>They were asking the question &#8220;can we get the masses on an airplane to buy it at $30 a pop&#8221;. The answer is (and always was) &#8220;no, but that&#8217;s the wrong question&#8221;.</p>

<p>The real question is &#8220;if we advertise that our flights have it, how much more can we charge and how many more tickets would we sell relative to our competitors.&#8221; This question was never asked &#8211; as much as I enjoyed it when it was avialable on Lufthansa, neither my travel agent nor Lufthansa could tell me ahead of time whether the flight would have it when I was booking my tickets. Thus, I was never willing to pay more, but because they didn&#8217;t know or promote it.</p>

<p>It&#8217;s sad to see a good technical service collapse due to business stupidity.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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