Comments on: Yahoo Photos, Biggest Web 2.0 Site Ever?

By: web 2.0 jobs

web 2.0 jobs — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:58:54 +0000

YahooFlickr?

By: Amanuel

Amanuel — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 03:07:00 +0000

Y! photos and Flickr may be similar now with all the AJAX goodness but remember it is all about the brands.

Flickr to its user base, and general public view is seen as a strong brand within the tech/blog community who generally don't like Y! anything.

It would only weaken Y! overall to try to merge these wonderful properties they own. I think it is wise for them to continue to invest and innovate using both brands as they are doing.

By: Patrick

Patrick — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:34:29 +0000

It all really seems counter-productive to me. I don’t see how Y! is helping to monetize Flickr by spreading it’s possible user base out between two similiar services.

By: Sam

Sam — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:21:35 +0000

yeah, it’s interesting yahoo would devote resources to revamp yahoo photos when flickr is so well done and pouplar. you’d think they’d just work to make flickr more useable by the more casual photographer and computer user. Seems weird to me. Guess this competes more directly with Picasa Web Albums.

By: Liz Gannes

Liz Gannes — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:26:14 +0000

You're right, we should be comparing apples to apples here. AJAX definitely complicates page views, though.

For what it's worth, Nielsen//NetRatings says Gmail had an audience of 8.6 million in July.

By: RJS

RJS — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:56:08 +0000

Hey Liz, thanks for the response.

While Digg may only have 8.5 million unique visitors per month, I don't think that's probably the best metric to guage the performance of an AJAX-powered site. In Digg's case, their page views are over 20 million/month. They are a premium AdSense customer, and that is one of the requirements to be a premium publisher.

I'd be curious to see how many page views they actually do get…

By: Liz Gannes

Liz Gannes — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:36:57 +0000

@RJS

Last time I talked to Digg, they said they had 8.5 million unique visitors. And I can't find good recent numbers for Gmail, but as of the beginning of this year Nielsen//NetRatings said it had 6.7 million users. I just emailed to see if I can get an update.

I have heard inklings about the problems of scaling AJAX (TagWorld, especially, stressed this to me) but I don't run a huge AJAX site myself. Can anyone help me out with understanding this?

By: RJS

RJS — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:45:54 +0000

"There have been some doubts about the scalablity of AJAX, and it certainly hasn’t been tried at such a large scale."

At the risk of sounding naive, isn't Gmail AJAX? That seems to have scaled pretty well, without being particularly slow. Digg is also AJAX, and while it's slow and very niche, I always attributed it to them growing by leaps and bounds, not through any fault of the underlying AJAX technology…

By: anurag

anurag — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:09:49 +0000

Viplav,

Yahoo! Photos has tens of millions of users. They deserve a Web 2.0 experience without having to download hundreds of photos and take them to another site (whether or not it is Yahoo! owned) which may not allow them unlimited storage or comparable features, print options and photo gifts.

Yahoo! Photos' and Flickr's market segments also do not completely overlap.

By: viplav

viplav — Thu, 17 Aug 2006 08:48:01 +0000

but the question is do we need another one of these? Flickr, and Y!photos, whats the difference. I have pics on Flickr and Y!photos, thoug pics are same i am uploading same in multiple sites. With almost everyone taking ‘email in’ photos, its better to put photos in some email id and then mail it to these. Only thing i think good about is that it shows Y!mail attachment also in a different folder