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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/14/wireless-data-it-sells-well/#comment-122223</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse Kopelman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Nick:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;T-Mobile could get spectrum the same way AT&amp;T Wireless got spectrum to overlay GSM on TDMA. Better filters at the base-stations to allow tighter frequency reuse and better codecs on the mobiles to tolerate higher system noise. They could also free up spectrum simply by building more base-stations, which would allow better frequency reuse without increasing noise levels. All of these things would have cost, money, but so does buying new spectrum. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;KDDI wasn&#039;t selling EVDO in 2003, as it didn&#039;t exist. They were selling 1xRTT which is much slower than DoCoMo&#039;s proprietary WCDMA, but they were selling it much cheaper. Also, DoCoMo had a huge problem with overpriced and defective handsets at this time.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Europe&#039;s 3G problems stem from the fact that carriers paid 3X too much for their licenses and as such couldn&#039;t properly build out the networks in a timely fashion. Flawed business model or not, it wasn&#039;t until 2005 that there was much of a network to run it on anyway.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick:</p>
<p>T-Mobile could get spectrum the same way AT&amp;T Wireless got spectrum to overlay GSM on TDMA. Better filters at the base-stations to allow tighter frequency reuse and better codecs on the mobiles to tolerate higher system noise. They could also free up spectrum simply by building more base-stations, which would allow better frequency reuse without increasing noise levels. All of these things would have cost, money, but so does buying new spectrum. </p>
<p>KDDI wasn&#8217;t selling EVDO in 2003, as it didn&#8217;t exist. They were selling 1xRTT which is much slower than DoCoMo&#8217;s proprietary WCDMA, but they were selling it much cheaper. Also, DoCoMo had a huge problem with overpriced and defective handsets at this time.</p>
<p>Europe&#8217;s 3G problems stem from the fact that carriers paid 3X too much for their licenses and as such couldn&#8217;t properly build out the networks in a timely fashion. Flawed business model or not, it wasn&#8217;t until 2005 that there was much of a network to run it on anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;How could T-Mobile USA even launch 3G --- they didn&#039;t even have the spectrum to do it.  That&#039;s why they are the big bidder for the AWS spectrum auction.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Secondly, in 2002-3 --- KDDI was killing the all mighty DoCoMo at 10:1 ratio for 3G subscriber net adds.  Verizon would have beat TMO by the same ratio.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thirdly, even if TMO decided to launch 3G in the US 3 years ago --- they would have launched the wrong &quot;Euro-centric&quot; 3G business model.  Video calling turned out to be a dud worldwide.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could T-Mobile USA even launch 3G &#8212; they didn&#8217;t even have the spectrum to do it.  That&#8217;s why they are the big bidder for the AWS spectrum auction.</p>
<p>Secondly, in 2002-3 &#8212; KDDI was killing the all mighty DoCoMo at 10:1 ratio for 3G subscriber net adds.  Verizon would have beat TMO by the same ratio.</p>
<p>Thirdly, even if TMO decided to launch 3G in the US 3 years ago &#8212; they would have launched the wrong &#8220;Euro-centric&#8221; 3G business model.  Video calling turned out to be a dud worldwide.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kopelman</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/14/wireless-data-it-sells-well/#comment-122221</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jesse Kopelman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Ah, but John, UMTS (which is real 3G) was available over a year before EVDO. It&#039;s just that not many had the balls to roll it out in 2003. Can&#039;t blame T-Mobile USA too much, as this was right around the time that DT was tightening the purse strings all over the world (as a result of having paid way too much for 3G licenses in Europe). Still, I take Vinit&#039;s point to be that if T-Mobile had had the balls to take the pain of being the first in the US to roll out 3G, they would now be reaping the benefits a la Verizon.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, but John, UMTS (which is real 3G) was available over a year before EVDO. It&#8217;s just that not many had the balls to roll it out in 2003. Can&#8217;t blame T-Mobile USA too much, as this was right around the time that DT was tightening the purse strings all over the world (as a result of having paid way too much for 3G licenses in Europe). Still, I take Vinit&#8217;s point to be that if T-Mobile had had the balls to take the pain of being the first in the US to roll out 3G, they would now be reaping the benefits a la Verizon.</p>
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		<title>By: John Thacker</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/14/wireless-data-it-sells-well/#comment-122220</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Thacker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Vinit:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Note, for example, that KDDI and SK Telcom also both show up on that global top 10 list, and they use EV-DO. China Unicom also has an EV-DO network, though I think that they also have some GSM.  Which means that not even on the global list does GSM have an obvious head start.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vinit:</p>
<p>Note, for example, that KDDI and SK Telcom also both show up on that global top 10 list, and they use EV-DO. China Unicom also has an EV-DO network, though I think that they also have some GSM.  Which means that not even on the global list does GSM have an obvious head start.</p>
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		<title>By: John Thacker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Thacker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 20:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Vinit:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What makes you think that GSM has/had an early lead on delivery of 3G services?  GPRS and EDGE are not really faster than 1xRTT, and HSDPA and EV-DO are comparable, while EV-DO generally beat HSDPA to the marketplace worldwide.  (SK Telecom in South Korea with a EV-DO network in January 2002, KDDI in Japan in 2003 had a smoother introduction than the initial DoCoMo UMTS rollout.)   Throw in the backwards compatability of cdma2000 gear with the cdmaone stuff, and it&#039;s really not clear that T-Mobile and GSM in general should have been leading.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vinit:</p>
<p>What makes you think that GSM has/had an early lead on delivery of 3G services?  GPRS and EDGE are not really faster than 1xRTT, and HSDPA and EV-DO are comparable, while EV-DO generally beat HSDPA to the marketplace worldwide.  (SK Telecom in South Korea with a EV-DO network in January 2002, KDDI in Japan in 2003 had a smoother introduction than the initial DoCoMo UMTS rollout.)   Throw in the backwards compatability of cdma2000 gear with the cdmaone stuff, and it&#8217;s really not clear that T-Mobile and GSM in general should have been leading.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vinit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Shame on you T-Mobile.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;With the early GSM lead, they should have been the ones setting the pace for early delivery and capitalization of 3G services.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you T-Mobile.</p>
<p>With the early GSM lead, they should have been the ones setting the pace for early delivery and capitalization of 3G services.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2006/08/14/wireless-data-it-sells-well/#comment-122217</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I have sent chetan an email and hopefully he can bring more clarity to this issue. stay tuned.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have sent chetan an email and hopefully he can bring more clarity to this issue. stay tuned.</p>
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		<title>By: vijay gill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vijay gill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I notice this did not appear to break down what exactly data revenue was. Do the carriers account for SMS/text MMS/multimedia, ringtone downloads, music downloads as data revenue?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice this did not appear to break down what exactly data revenue was. Do the carriers account for SMS/text MMS/multimedia, ringtone downloads, music downloads as data revenue?</p>
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